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Man accused of beating mom, stabbing her in face with icepick
The Gainesville Sun ^ | April 21, 2012 | Cindy Swirko

Posted on 04/22/2012 7:13:20 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A Gainesville man who beat and stabbed his mother when she refused to give him money for crack cocaine and beer was arrested late Friday night by Gainesville police after a struggle in which he tried to bite an officer, according to an arrest report. William Bernard Lee, 44, of 912 NW 6th Ave., was charged with attempted murder and resisting arrest with violence.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: icepick; mom
Budget cuts to libraries are responsible. And after all, who are we to judge?
1 posted on 04/22/2012 7:13:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement
Here's the little darling...


2 posted on 04/22/2012 7:16:36 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (We can't have economic progress...there is a slug somewhere that needs to be saved. MP)
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To: ConservativeStatement

There are a lot of sick, sick bastids in this world..........


3 posted on 04/22/2012 7:18:27 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: ConservativeStatement
I'm sure she deserved it.

(Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Really?)

4 posted on 04/22/2012 7:18:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

We need to make drugs legal so people like this can get them cheap and not have to go to their mothers for money.

Yeah folks that’s sarcasm. Making drugs cheap would only lead to even more creeps like this.


5 posted on 04/22/2012 7:21:28 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mich Patriot

Gee golly....one of Obama’s son....er.....brothers. Color me shocked.


6 posted on 04/22/2012 7:21:28 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Hmmm. He looks a little old to be Obama’s son, but I’m sure he wouldn’t mind adopting him anyway.


7 posted on 04/22/2012 7:21:42 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (whites are 8 times more likely to be victimized by black criminals than blacks by white criminals)
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To: Venturer

You said what I was going to.


8 posted on 04/22/2012 7:25:16 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A little plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If you find out that your kid is on crack or meth don’t let them in your house until they are clean for a good long time.
It will hurt but it just is not worth risking your life to be sympathetic to a sociopath even if they are family.


9 posted on 04/22/2012 7:25:48 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Looks like the cops allowed this poor victim of society keep his teeth. Too bad resisting the police by biting should be a good reason to knock out 8 or 10 of them.


10 posted on 04/22/2012 7:29:35 AM PDT by JohnD9207 (Santorum...the only Conservative in the race.)
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To: Tax-chick

You’re right. Much better to have a Leviathion of a Federal government that can trash the 4th and 5th Amendments, militarize every podunk police department in the country, fund pet shooting SWAT teams, and seize cash from travellers without charging them with any crime at all, let alone actually convicting them of anything.

The there’s the side benefit of hang murderous gangs getting into the drug trade so they can shoot 6 year olds sitting on their front porch while they defend their turf.

I’m so glad we have Mommy Fed there to tell adults what they can and cannot put into their own bodies. I mean look at how bad the legalized and regulated alcohol trade is now. Why we have the Jonny Walker Gang shooting it out with the Jack Daniels Gang every sindgle weekend in my neighborhood.

And don’t even get me started on the Capt. Morgan crew and their bloody feud with the Bacardi Boys. What a bloody mess that is...


11 posted on 04/22/2012 7:31:45 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

There are laws against a little horse play with the family?/s


12 posted on 04/22/2012 7:32:43 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Cubs Fan
Hmmm. He looks a little old to be Obama’s son, but I’m sure he wouldn’t mind adopting him anyway.

He is his lover from the wookie haters of America meetings.

13 posted on 04/22/2012 7:34:36 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lurker

I sure hope they don’t legalize drugs. I really don’t want to become a drug addict.


14 posted on 04/22/2012 7:39:37 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Trayvon lives!
15 posted on 04/22/2012 7:40:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Happy Earf Day Mom!


16 posted on 04/22/2012 7:41:21 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Lurker

This post does not even begin to address the negative consequences of drug use. On the other hand, a position in favor of prohibition does not eliminate the negative outcomes you have described, either.

All rights come with corresponding duties. If an individual has a legal right to purchase and consume a drug of choice, he also has an obligation to avoid doing physical or financial harm to others, including taxpayers, in the process.

How can this responsibility best be imposed upon the person who claims the liberty?


17 posted on 04/22/2012 7:46:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A little plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Mich Patriot
Why that pic? Why not the pic of him as a little 12 year old angel?
18 posted on 04/22/2012 7:48:39 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Mich Patriot

The face of Hope ‘n’ Change.


19 posted on 04/22/2012 7:49:07 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sadly enough, I wonder if her response to the attack would be something like, “But he really is a good person, and he has a good heart...”


20 posted on 04/22/2012 7:49:38 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Texas Eagle
"Why that pic? Why not the pic of him as a little 12 year old angel?"

Good question! Probably no 12 year-old pics available due to his juvenile detention.

21 posted on 04/22/2012 7:53:33 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (We can't have economic progress...there is a slug somewhere that needs to be saved. MP)
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To: umgud

And I don’t want a pothead doctor operating on me!


22 posted on 04/22/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: ConservativeStatement

Al and Jesse will no doubt get right to work on this!


23 posted on 04/22/2012 8:03:34 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ConservativeStatement
And his mother said,

"He were always such a good boy. When he were younger, he hep his lil sister wit she homework. And he got money by recyclin alumbilum beer cans when he and he friends was finished wit dem.

He ain never cause no trouble before, but he did have some personal prollems. He were trying to get he life back in order and he goal in life were to go to collitch, git a dergree in bidness, an become CEO of ALCOA. His sperience wit alumbilum made him git dat goal.

He always wanted to buy me a tin million dollah home in some rich hood so I could have a nice life.

I don't think he did this crime they cusin him of. He would never ever stab me inna face wit no ice pick! Couldnta been him. I din't see him nowheres round when I were gitten my face all stabbed up. I din't see who done it but twerent mah lil boy."

24 posted on 04/22/2012 8:13:10 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Just in time for Mother’s Day.


25 posted on 04/22/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: ConservativeStatement

Sorry, “good” was spelled incorrectly in my post #24. It sposed to be “goot.”


26 posted on 04/22/2012 8:16:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Venturer
We need to make drugs legal so people like this can get them cheap and not have to go to their mothers for money. Yeah folks that’s sarcasm. Making drugs cheap would only lead to even more creeps like this.

Hell why only legal and cheap? I can picture the current folks making it a minority-specific 9affirmative action) addendum to "free birth control" so they can get all the crack they want at our expense. It's just not fair to deny these poor minorities their crack cocaine because it makes them violent against their own folks.

27 posted on 04/22/2012 8:18:05 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ConservativeStatement

News bulletion! William Bernard Lee’s momma say she thinks it was some white Hispanic that down that crime on her.


28 posted on 04/22/2012 8:20:49 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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All contributions are for the Current Quarter Expenses.


29 posted on 04/22/2012 8:30:07 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“Don’t talk to us like we stupid ! Don’t talk to us like we ignant,” Rev. Al.


30 posted on 04/22/2012 8:31:21 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Oh boy, another violent black criminal.

Seems epidemic.


31 posted on 04/22/2012 8:35:51 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If we just made the stuff legal this kind of thing wouldn’t happen......


32 posted on 04/22/2012 9:05:41 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Cubs Fan

He looks like he could easily be his bro.


33 posted on 04/22/2012 9:07:05 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Right Wing Assault

That be well sed.


34 posted on 04/22/2012 9:14:31 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Just in time for Mother’s Day.

Are the neighbors saying he was such a nice man? Such a loving son. Never caused a problem. Was kind to animals. Always had a nice word to say and would give you the shirt off his back. And he was trying to turn his life around...


35 posted on 04/22/2012 9:15:19 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Mich Patriot

“If I knew a murderer on crack, he would look like William Bernard Lee.”


36 posted on 04/22/2012 9:16:30 AM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: Pontiac
If you find out that your kid is on crack or meth don’t let them in your house until they are clean for a good long time.

If you do, Your floors will be spotless, but your jewelry will all be gone.

37 posted on 04/22/2012 10:04:33 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: trebb
Hell why only legal and cheap? I can picture the current folks making it a minority-specific 9affirmative action) addendum to "free birth control" so they can get all the crack they want at our expense. It's just not fair to deny these poor minorities their crack cocaine because it makes them violent against their own folks.

It is unfair. If you are a white person addicted to meth, you can get a prescription for Adderall.

38 posted on 04/22/2012 10:12:06 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: ConservativeStatement
And after all, who are we to judge?

Really. I mean, the price of beer has skyrocketed, and this can make one desperate.

39 posted on 04/22/2012 10:15:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Drugs: Just another “victimless crime”.


40 posted on 04/22/2012 10:30:02 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Tax-chick
This post does not even begin to address the negative consequences of drug use. On the other hand, a position in favor of prohibition does not eliminate the negative outcomes you have described, either. / All rights come with corresponding duties. If an individual has a legal right to purchase and consume a drug of choice, he also has an obligation to avoid doing physical or financial harm to others, including taxpayers, in the process. / How can this responsibility best be imposed upon the person who claims the liberty?

That is one of the most concise presentations of this issue's double-bind I've read.

41 posted on 04/22/2012 10:38:03 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Mich Patriot

Just look at him... it’s obvious he was just another Skittles addict.


42 posted on 04/22/2012 10:47:37 AM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: avenir

Thanks. This is, it seems to me, the central paradox of liberty. It’s very easy to claim a “right,” even if it’s just in the sense of “they couldn’t stop me.” If it’s not drug use, it could be alcohol, promiscuous sex, driving fast, motorcycling without a helmet, or whatever.

However, even if the person claiming the liberty theoretically “accepts responsibility,” it is nearly impossible fully to impose the consequences on the person who earned them. In the case at hand, even if the man were executed today, that wouldn’t undo the harm to his mother. Even if retribution is painful and significant, for any damage, that doesn’t un-hurt, un-kill, un-do whatever has gone on.

So what is a society to do, in terms of law, for the best outcome. I don’t know. Perhaps start by accepting that there are insoluble problems, instead of searching for easy answers.


43 posted on 04/23/2012 4:36:13 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A little plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Tax-chick

Well said (again).

I think we forget that God has his reasons for building or collapsing a nation, reasons we know nothing of. We think it’s all on us, that we must solve the problem of man’s rebellion. That’s exactly what we cannot do. We can only deal with the manifestations that threaten general stability, and this in a remedial way. God alone has the authority and power to Redeem.


44 posted on 04/23/2012 6:54:53 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir

Excellent remarks!

We can call the understanding that many serious issues don’t have solutions a “tragic worldview,” but we could as easily call it a Christian worldview. There are limits to what fallen people in a fallen world can do, and the ultimate outcome for each of us is between ourselves and God.


45 posted on 04/23/2012 8:18:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A little plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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