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There is NO proof that this lightbulb can go for 20 years. There is NO proof that this lightbulb can generate the light as advertised. There IS proof that the US Taxpayers have been and are going to continue to pay for this crap.
1 posted on 04/22/2012 8:59:48 AM PDT by tobyhill
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There IS proof that the US Taxpayers have been and are going to continue to pay for this crap.

All part of the plan.

If I wanted America to fail

2 posted on 04/22/2012 9:02:07 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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There is NO proof that this lightbulb can go for 20 years.

last for 20 years if you leave it in the box


3 posted on 04/22/2012 9:04:22 AM PDT by molson209
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If it’s made in China, it’ll fry itself in two years, tops.


4 posted on 04/22/2012 9:06:26 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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There is NO proof that this light-bulb can go for 20 years. There is NO proof that this light bulb can generate the light as advertised.


I believe that there is a light-bulb in a California fire House that has been lit for over 100 years. The secret is that it has a very thick carbon thread filament.

How long these things will last? Well I have had at least one LED flashlight that has died after only being used a few times. Cause of death was the electronic components not the LED itself.


6 posted on 04/22/2012 9:09:14 AM PDT by The Working Man
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There IS proof that the US Taxpayers have been and are going to continue to pay for this crap.

Yup and its why I get irritated when I see FReepers congratulating themselves for the failure of the great green scam. Its still going on even if no one believes it.
7 posted on 04/22/2012 9:09:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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"The contest stipulated that the winning bulb be sold for $22 in its first year on the market.

"In that context, the $60 price tag has raised some eyebrows. Ed Crawford, the head of Philips' U.S. lighting division, said it was always part of the plan to have utility rebates bring the price down to the $22 range.

Hey there you go, promise you can do it for $22, as long as the taxpayer pays twice that much.

8 posted on 04/22/2012 9:10:28 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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My stash of lightbulbs will last me at least 20 years.


9 posted on 04/22/2012 9:11:05 AM PDT by Biff55 (Defend yourself!)
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My stash of lightbulbs will last me at least 20 years.


10 posted on 04/22/2012 9:11:07 AM PDT by Biff55 (Defend yourself!)
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The magically assign a lifespan based upon the number if years it would take for it to make sense. Its a total scam. Or government has become our enemy.
The 10 million the government spent in this contest was also wasted. If it was such a great idea,,, a corporation would have happy done the research.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 9:11:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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There are plenty of LEDs that are 30+ years old that still work just fine.


12 posted on 04/22/2012 9:12:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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$100,000,000,000 Spent On Green Energy and I Didn’t Even Get A Lousy Hempcloth T-Shirt.


15 posted on 04/22/2012 9:14:32 AM PDT by digger48
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Where would light bulbs be without government intervention?

Thank you know all seers in Washington for making our lives good, thank you.

17 posted on 04/22/2012 9:16:13 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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The third image purports to show a side by side shot of the bulbs on. I don't know the wattage. Should be much cheaper Real Soon Now.

18 posted on 04/22/2012 9:18:21 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer)
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I bought a little device that fit down in the bottom of the socket, it dimmed the bulb but I had bulbs last for 8 years. They were in the 2 fixtures on each side of my front door and I never turned them off, so they burned continuously for 8 years. I can't find those little devices anymore.

On another note a few months ago I bought some Phillips bulbs at Home Depot, they are the crappiest bulbs I have ever bought, they last hardly anytime at all.

22 posted on 04/22/2012 9:22:04 AM PDT by Ditter
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.50 to .75

That’s what I used to pay for Sylvania incandescent 4-packs that would last for years and years.


23 posted on 04/22/2012 9:25:47 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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The proof of the life of the bulb is in the warranty. Of course, the bulb I have is warranted for five years, not 20. I don't know if the bulb I bought at Home Depot is the same bulb or not -- it's 40-watt equivalent consuming 9 watts, sold under the "ecosmart" and "LightingScience" trademarks. And an excess of packaging compared to the regular 40 watt Edison bulb. Maybe it's because they need the space of the package for this information and more, printed in two languages:

Not intended for use with emergency exit fixtures or emergency exit lights. Not for use where exposed directly to the weather or water. Not for use in totally enclosed recessed fixtures.

... complies with FCC Part 15 for a class B device ... generates, uses and can radiate radio frequency energy... Added weight of the device may cause instability ...

50,000 hour life; about 2000 days, or just over five years of continuous operation. I wonder how many on/off cycles the bulb is supposed to withstand -- but the box is silent about that. It just says that they assume you use it for three hours at a time, which would come out to around 17,000 cycles.

Wonder how it stands up to lighting spikes? According the IEEE, the spikes can be as low as 800 volts (ring wave) and as high as 6000 volts (spike, limited by sparking of the clearances in switchgear, fuse boxes and exposed splices) depending on how long with wire is from your fuse box to the light, and other equipment you have connected in your house.

(By the way, the 6000-volt spike can cause the Edison bulbs to explode; one magazine testing lab reported they had one bulb shoot glass everywhere when they applied the test pulse to a turned-on desk lamp.)

And the kicker: "Assembled in Mexico".

24 posted on 04/22/2012 9:27:57 AM PDT by asinclair (Everybody works, everybody pays.)
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Even if it does last 20 years as promised, here’s another reason it’s a really dumb idea: it’s an evolving technology. These bulbs will be wholly outdated in a year or two. Something better and cheaper will be available.

Who would’ve spent $200,000 on a Pentium PC in 1995 because “It’s going to last for 20 years”????


25 posted on 04/22/2012 9:28:31 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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When’s the IPO and how many shares is Comrade Chairman Obama signed up for?


26 posted on 04/22/2012 9:31:55 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251qoGOqpdk
only the trailer, but saw to full movie and is VERY interesting.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 9:33:08 AM PDT by bd59903
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I have some good, old-fashioned light bulbs still burning that were in the house when we bought it over 6 years ago.


28 posted on 04/22/2012 9:36:19 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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