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NBC Goes After Remington, Remington Responds to Its 'Anti-Gun Agenda'
Townhall.com ^ | April 22, 2012 | Elizabeth Meinecke

Posted on 04/22/2012 9:27:21 AM PDT by Kaslin

The gun manufacturing company Remington is standing strong against NBC, which has been going after the manufacturer for what it deems a flaw that allows the gun to be fired without the trigger being pulled. Despite the fact that Remington and the plaintiff came to an agreement, NBC kept on pressing and indicated Remington has been hiding the truth for years.

Remington's statement is a strong response to what it indicates is much more than a concern about gun safety:

"NBC continues to attack Remington and the firearms industry through sensational and factually inaccurate reporting. On April 11, 2012, Brian Williams again demonstrated NBC’s anti-gun agenda with the claim that the Model 870, Model 1100 and other Remington firearms have a design flaw. That claim is demonstrably false and Remington stands fully behind the safety and reliability of the most popular shotguns in the world. It wasn’t enough for NBC to attack over 20 million Remington firearms; they also called the Second Amendment into question by suggesting that there is a need for increased government regulation of firearms. Model 870 and 1100 owners know the truth – these shotguns are used extensively under the most demanding conditions. Tens of billions of rounds have been fired through these firearms, which are valued for their performance and durability by millions of hunters, shooters, law enforcement and military personnel who have relied on Remington. As the basis for its attacks, NBC continues to rely upon paid “experts” who have been repeatedly hired by plaintiff’s attorneys to testify against Remington and at least 16 other firearms manufacturers. The facts show that the Model 870 and 1100 are two of the most reliable shotguns ever produced – only one lawsuit has been filed in the last seven years and no litigation is pending against the trigger mechanisms of these firearms. Deceptively editing and ignoring readily available documents and video evidence to drive NBC’s agenda is an all too familiar tactic. Remington stands by the reliability and safety of its firearms and will fully respond to NBC’s attempt to disparage these iconic American products."

If you want to watch the NBC pieces, there are several videos here, and have Remington's full responses by checking out respectremington.tv.

NBC's integrity in this matter, according to the NRA-ILA, isn't spotless, either. They document why viewers should think twice about trusting NBC on this here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; gungrabbers; liberalmedia; mediabias; nbc
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1 posted on 04/22/2012 9:27:27 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Can't we all just get along?

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2 posted on 04/22/2012 9:33:20 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Kaslin
I'm thiiiiiiiiiiis close to buying a Mossberg 500 Persuader (for home defense only).
Comments anyone?

3 posted on 04/22/2012 9:37:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Kaslin

What a joke!
The Remington 870 is the best selling shotgun in history.


4 posted on 04/22/2012 9:38:58 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: FatherofFive

Ooooh. Me likey.


5 posted on 04/22/2012 9:39:14 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: oh8eleven
Don't use the pistol grip with buckshot ☺
6 posted on 04/22/2012 9:40:56 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kaslin

Who would trust NBC regarding any report?


7 posted on 04/22/2012 9:45:43 AM PDT by stevem
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To: oh8eleven

I have the Mossberg 590a1 and like it. I’d really like a bernelli semi-auto though. :)


8 posted on 04/22/2012 9:48:50 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: oh8eleven

I highly recommend taking a look at the 590.


9 posted on 04/22/2012 9:54:13 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: driftdiver
I’d really like a bernelli semi-auto
Bernelli makes a fine weapon, and if I had a need for more than just home defense, I'd buy one.
10 posted on 04/22/2012 9:56:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: mylife

I went with the 500 Special Tactical Pump with the MarineCoat Steel Nickel finish. It has an 18.5” barrel and 3” chamber. Take the block out and it holds 5 rounds + 1 in the chamber.

Love it.


11 posted on 04/22/2012 9:56:42 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: oh8eleven
I have a 580 Mariner,finish resists salt water,used to keep it on the boat.Fits real well in the house too.Pistol grip on the boat put the stock back on for here.
12 posted on 04/22/2012 9:57:10 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: oh8eleven

I keep the 500 in its pistol grip configuration for in-home defense. The long stock version is at hand for outside duties. Both are loaded in my old LEO ammo model...alternating 00-buckshot and deerslug, with a deer slug out first.
I’ve used these (and other) 500’s for many years, and find them reliable, functional, affordable. Nothing fancy. They just work.


13 posted on 04/22/2012 9:57:51 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Kaslin
Don't leave a loaded shotgun where your dog can upset it.

Dog shoots man in buttocks, US police reveal

14 posted on 04/22/2012 9:58:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mylife
Don't use the pistol grip with buckshot.
No, it's a shotgun, not an M16. I plan on using this type of ammo ...

15 posted on 04/22/2012 10:00:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: t1b8zs

Woops 590


16 posted on 04/22/2012 10:01:15 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Kaslin

Guess ill have to go buy me a Remington i don’t own one of those yet !

My newest shotgun is a sears/roebuck 20 gauge lol


17 posted on 04/22/2012 10:01:33 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Kaslin

NBC refuses to cover Fast & Furious, an Obama Administration CRIME that has resulted in hundreds of murders by arming criminals.

So, tell NBC to SHUT THE FETCH UP!


18 posted on 04/22/2012 10:02:18 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: oh8eleven
The only advise I will give is to get a shotgun that looks like a hunting shotgun (wood stock) and use bird shot to load in the gun.

If you are ever charged for using the shotgun, you want the gun to be your "hunting gun that just was handy when you needed it." You use bird shot because at close distances it hits like Thor's hammer, but does not penetrate walls that well, e.g. the kids' room.

I also recommend a pump because they are very reliable and the sound they make when being loaded is the international sound of "you are in a heap of trouble boy."

19 posted on 04/22/2012 10:04:35 AM PDT by fini
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To: mrmeyer
I highly recommend taking a look at the 590.
I think they're more expensive - $400+. I can get the 500 for just under $300.
20 posted on 04/22/2012 10:05:05 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: stevem
Who would trust NBC regarding any report?
For anyone with half a brain, your question is entirely rhetorical.
21 posted on 04/22/2012 10:05:09 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: oh8eleven

I’ve had one for years, and it has been flawless. Love it.


22 posted on 04/22/2012 10:10:45 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Kaslin
Eyes likes your attitude, Remington!

Just wondering: GE owns NBC I think. Does GE produce, or have a subsidiary that produces, a competing brand of firearms?

GE's been decidedly anti-American ever since ‘Neutron’ Jack retired.

23 posted on 04/22/2012 10:11:18 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Stop feeding the beast; spend money only with those who support traditional American values.)
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To: oh8eleven

I still wouldnt use it with the pistol grip.

ouch.


24 posted on 04/22/2012 10:13:45 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: O6ret

That will work just fine.


25 posted on 04/22/2012 10:15:08 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: oh8eleven

I keep mine close by and loaded with buck,slug,buck,slug,buck,slug. Every other shell.


26 posted on 04/22/2012 10:16:18 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Kaslin
I wish NBC News would hurry up and die.
How many people still trust NBC News (or any network news for that matter), and how stupid do you have to be?

Have you ever seen Matt Lauer's brazen smear of George W. Bush? This stuff is bottom of the barrel:

Matt Lauer is a lying scumbag (must-see video)

27 posted on 04/22/2012 10:24:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fish hawk
buck, slug, buck, slug, buck, slug
To me, that sounds like your "buck" shots didn't get the job done and your perp has moved to "danger close."
Why not buckshot the first three or four, then slugs the last two or three?
28 posted on 04/22/2012 10:24:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fini
“I also recommend a pump because they are very reliable and the sound they make when being loaded is the international sound of “you are in a heap of trouble boy.”

Used for self defense or hunting, the only sound should be the safety being clicked off.

There will already be one in the chamber long before I need to shoot.

29 posted on 04/22/2012 10:31:02 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Kaslin

apparently the gun in question had been worked on to lighten its trigger pull. That isn’t Remington’s fault.


30 posted on 04/22/2012 10:45:45 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Beagle8U; fini
“I also recommend a pump because they are very reliable and the sound they make when being loaded is the international sound of “you are in a heap of trouble boy.” Used for self defense or hunting, the only sound should be the safety being clicked off.

There will already be one in the chamber long before I need to shoot.

Both approaches are valid IMHO. I once disuaded a home invader by calmly walking to the door the scumbag was trying to break down and racking a round. Heard him/it scurry off instantly. Only evidence left was the puddle of urine outside my door. (No joke.)

31 posted on 04/22/2012 10:48:41 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Kaslin

The Remington 870 is used by the IDF and the US Marines, and has for the better part of a century, and is the current weapon of choice for the FBI, etc.

Pretty much all you have to know.


32 posted on 04/22/2012 10:53:45 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: fini

I recommend not giving burglar’s or robbers a chance to shoot first. Further I recommend number 1 shot, as it will penetrate to the back of a man, where the spinal chord is likely to reside, and you have more chances to hit it than you would with 00 shot.


33 posted on 04/22/2012 10:55:48 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: oh8eleven

Buy a BIGGER one...there is no substiture for horsepower.


34 posted on 04/22/2012 11:00:39 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: oh8eleven
I get the close up with the buck, his partner drives away in the car, I put a slug through his rear window. Also I can pump another shell in in a fraction of a second so if the first buck does not stop him and the slug misses, I have another buck at him before he takes a step. I get short range and long range in a fraction of a second. All and all though, the first buck is going to stop him at the front door.
35 posted on 04/22/2012 11:19:40 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Paladin2
LOL. Last sentence of the article reads "Neither the dog, which has not been identified, nor any ducks within range at the time of the accident, were injured."

So which do you suppose it is? British droll humor par excellence? Or an idiot PC writer?

36 posted on 04/22/2012 11:21:04 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Beagle8U; fini

I dunno, I kinda liked that man down in Texas who shot the guys stealing from his neighbor.

The “you’re dead” is a classic.


37 posted on 04/22/2012 11:23:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jewbacca

I believe the Marines adopted the Benelli M4.


38 posted on 04/22/2012 11:35:43 AM PDT by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: driftdiver

whatever happened to him anyway?


39 posted on 04/22/2012 11:42:05 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Kaslin

NBC long ago lost any credibility, and has been a straight leftist propaganda mouthpiece for many years, even before they created MSNBC as a RAT party outlet.


40 posted on 04/22/2012 11:44:58 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Nachoman

Very recently, yes. They used the 870 from WWI to Gulf War I and a little later.


41 posted on 04/22/2012 11:45:17 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: donmeaker
I recommend number 1 shot, as it will penetrate to the back of a man, where the spinal chord is likely to reside

Just make sure the thief you have in your sights is not one of our esteemed GOP Senators (reaching across the aisle) or about half the GOP House. In that case you are unlikely to hit any spine.

Did you ever see what #1 shot does to a bowl of jello?

42 posted on 04/22/2012 11:46:30 AM PDT by Gritty (The somnolent GOP in Washington has just climbed back into their Bob Dole suits-Mark Steyn)
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To: driftdiver
I have a Wingmaster 870 and 2 1100s and have never had an accidental discharge with any of them.

I do love my Benelli M3 Super 90 as well ;)

43 posted on 04/22/2012 11:49:20 AM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
44 posted on 04/22/2012 12:01:35 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: mylife
re: pistol grip:

There's a YouTube vid of some woman firing one with a pistol grip...barrel recoil swung up & back hitting her in the head! LOL!

45 posted on 04/22/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: oh8eleven
For home defense, I am going with something shorter, plus it holds 14+1. The Kel-Tec KSG:
46 posted on 04/22/2012 12:14:20 PM PDT by ironwill (III - Molon Labe)
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To: Kaslin
Let's not forget that NBC News main claim to fame is the fact they lie. And they love to sensationalize their anti-gun claims, even if it leads to the deaths of police officers, as they did back in the day with NBC's stories about "cop killer bullets."

Mark

47 posted on 04/22/2012 12:16:22 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Kaslin

Did NBC use a model rocket motor to cause the shotgun to fire?

Just wondering.


48 posted on 04/22/2012 12:22:39 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: ironwill

Well, I have never heard of such a thing. Now I want one.

Can civilians buy one?


49 posted on 04/22/2012 12:24:04 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Kaslin
I have both shotguns and a few others ..never had a problem with any...I love my 1100, in my view the best damn shotgun ever...
50 posted on 04/22/2012 12:26:50 PM PDT by Gone_Postal
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