Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers (Sunspot activity resembles the Maunder Minimum.)
The Asahi Shimbun ^ | April 20, 2012 | SEIJI TANAKA

Posted on 04/22/2012 4:05:43 PM PDT by neverdem

The sun may be entering a period of reduced activity that could result in lower temperatures on Earth, according to Japanese researchers.

Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.

In that era, known as the Maunder Minimum, temperatures are estimated to have been about 2.5 degrees lower than in the second half of the 20th century.

The Japanese study found that the trend of current sunspot activity is similar to records from that period.

The researchers also found signs of unusual magnetic changes in the sun. Normally, the sun’s magnetic field flips about once every 11 years. In 2001, the sun’s magnetic north pole, which was in the northern hemisphere, flipped to the south.

While scientists had predicted that the next flip would begin from May 2013, the solar observation satellite Hinode found that the north pole of the sun had started flipping about a year earlier than expected. There was no noticeable change in the south pole.

If that trend continues, the north pole could complete its flip in May 2012 but create a four-pole magnetic structure in the sun, with two new poles created in the vicinity of the equator of our closest star.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; maunderminimum
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-55 next last

1 posted on 04/22/2012 4:05:55 PM PDT by neverdem
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Note in the replies that of the poor English cleric near the top.


2 posted on 04/22/2012 4:09:44 PM PDT by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Czcibor,Czeslaw,Dariusz & Grzegorz???


3 posted on 04/22/2012 4:12:47 PM PDT by pricilla (one should always try to be smarter than the equipment one is operating - Amajato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

How bad can it be?

4 posted on 04/22/2012 4:14:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Keep your tires inflated - that should ward off any ill effects.


5 posted on 04/22/2012 4:17:54 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

bttt


6 posted on 04/22/2012 4:18:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

/mark


7 posted on 04/22/2012 4:20:10 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

8 posted on 04/22/2012 4:28:19 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pricilla

Czcibor,Czeslaw,Dariusz & Grzegorz???

Those darned Poles. Didn’t they join the Kyoto Accord thingamabob?


9 posted on 04/22/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by Dartman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Don’t forget to get a tune-up too!


10 posted on 04/22/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Quad polar dissorder?


11 posted on 04/22/2012 4:34:24 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Well, then, thank goodness for global warming, eh?


12 posted on 04/22/2012 4:39:31 PM PDT by Clara Lou
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.


13 posted on 04/22/2012 4:40:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Solar cycle 24 has definitely been doing odd things. It’s looking more and more like it’s going to be a shallow cycle. Not Maunder minimum (where sunspot activity ceased for decades), but maybe a Dalton-type Minimum.


14 posted on 04/22/2012 4:45:14 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.

four-pole magnetic structureWhy not n+1 poles

an infinite number of poles

15 posted on 04/22/2012 4:47:18 PM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

>>The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.

Just like Warsaw.


16 posted on 04/22/2012 4:56:19 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: struggle

You’ll find a mass of poles at any Catholic church in Warsaw.


17 posted on 04/22/2012 5:00:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Who do these clowns think they are?

The scientific consensus is that CO2 heats the earth, not the sun.

Get with the program, you idiots.

18 posted on 04/22/2012 5:00:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

%%
It’s just another mimic Maunder
Pole moves on the Sun there
Cause our rain & thunder
So we don’t have to wonder,
It’s just another mimic Maunder...
%%


19 posted on 04/22/2012 5:01:34 PM PDT by mikrofon (Mangled Bangles)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

If nobama had a sun, it would look like this.


20 posted on 04/22/2012 5:03:30 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Bush’s fault.


21 posted on 04/22/2012 5:04:20 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: P.O.E.

Isn’t 3rd from the left Thaddeus Kosciuzsko?


22 posted on 04/22/2012 5:05:34 PM PDT by onedoug
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
We're all gonna DIE!!!
23 posted on 04/22/2012 5:06:30 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mikrofon

That’s funny. Gonna show it to Mr. Married21.


24 posted on 04/22/2012 5:09:57 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.


25 posted on 04/22/2012 5:11:59 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onedoug

3rd from the left is Thaddeus Kosciuzsko?

I thought it was Michael Jackson.


26 posted on 04/22/2012 5:12:11 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: P.O.E.

They landed at night.

Did you know the Sun burns more energy in one second than mankind has spent since the first democaveman found fire in a lightning-struck tree and took it back to his fellow hominids?
I either read that somewhere, or just made it up.


27 posted on 04/22/2012 5:14:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: COBOL2Java
LOL! Where did you find that algore cartoon, it is hilarious!
28 posted on 04/22/2012 5:16:46 PM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

No, it’s just the opposite. We need to lower the tire pressure and everyone buy an SUV. We need some warmin’ goin’ on.


29 posted on 04/22/2012 5:19:07 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." - Peter Griffin, FAMILY GUY)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Ditter

Did a search on “algore frozen”. :-)


30 posted on 04/22/2012 5:19:11 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
Well, I can't get that part with the reader comment to load. The guy says that solar activity doesn't account for warming. I wanted to respond with, "For the claim that the sun can't account for warming: "What is the difference between average daytime and nighttime temperatures during any particular season and similar meteorological conditions and what is the causal factor most responsible for making that difference?"

Okay, so we can posit the sun as being responsible for over 30 degree shifts of temperature in the course of 24 hours (or 90 degrees over the course of a Martian day) but we can't posit that changes in solar output could be responsible for changes of fractions of a degree up or down in global temperature averages over the course of a century? One degree F over the course of about a century (1880 to 1998) is about 3% of the change in temperature that is normally seen over the course of a day. And when we see the same phenomenon occurring on several different planets, the cause on all isn't going to be due to unique conditions on one.
31 posted on 04/22/2012 5:23:28 PM PDT by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

“Al Gore...Mr Al Gore...please pick up the white courtesy phone.”


32 posted on 04/22/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: COBOL2Java

Shrinkage?


33 posted on 04/22/2012 5:32:01 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: COBOL2Java
I want to send it to all the greenies on my email list. Their hero has fallen.
34 posted on 04/22/2012 5:33:51 PM PDT by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: mikrofon

Wish it were a Sunday


35 posted on 04/22/2012 6:02:15 PM PDT by crghill (Silly Mormons, God is triune.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

The sun is a tangled magnetic mass of multiple poles.


So are they lying in this article about a change in a normal pattern of two poles on the sun to four and this claim is not real? ‘Splain it to me, please.


36 posted on 04/22/2012 6:32:50 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
The sun may be entering a period of reduced activity that could result in lower temperatures on Earth,...

This has that George W. Bush's fingerprints all over it!!!

37 posted on 04/22/2012 6:35:29 PM PDT by The Duke
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: neverdem
This just in:
Representative Sheila Jackson Lee (Dumb-TX) wants to know which of the 4 poles the American flag is mounted on, placed there by NASA astronauts several years ago.
38 posted on 04/22/2012 6:41:32 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PapaBear3625

Is the sun cooler during a shallow cycle?


39 posted on 04/22/2012 6:49:03 PM PDT by tbw2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SaraJohnson
The sun doesn't rotate as a solid mass meaning that its magnetic fields are constantly shifting, shearing, twisting and breaking. It has a general north south orientation but not at all like we see in the earth.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

The solar reversals don't appear to be at all uncommon and happen far more often than the 300,000 year reversals of the earth's magnetic field.
40 posted on 04/22/2012 6:50:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Thank you.


41 posted on 04/22/2012 6:51:26 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: onedoug

Paderewski, Chopin, Kociuzsko, & Pope John Paul II


42 posted on 04/22/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

Quick! Burn a Tire.


43 posted on 04/22/2012 8:10:00 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; ...
Thanks KoRn.


44 posted on 04/22/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: P.O.E.


45 posted on 04/22/2012 8:16:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: tumblindice

Yeah, I read that too...we are so screwed, either the Obommer gets in or we git Mitts or the sun blows up...dang.


46 posted on 04/22/2012 8:17:03 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: neverdem

As if 40 million Poles on earth wasn’t enough!


47 posted on 04/22/2012 8:18:04 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Aunt Polgara

that’s a fact.


48 posted on 04/22/2012 10:18:07 PM PDT by 4buttons
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; SunkenCiv
Keep your tires inflated - that should ward off any ill effects.

Only if you also eat your peas. Pea plants fix nitrogen (which I didn't even know was broken!) so that they can convert more CO^2 into O^2 + C...which is why peas always carbonize when you let the pot boil dry.

That carbon from the carbonized peas can then be recovered (didn't really know that carbon was upholstered, let alone needed a new covering, either) to make more tires to be inflated with the now-repaired nitrogen.

I am amazed everyday at what I can learn & share just by reading Free Republic...it is well worth a small monthly donation!

49 posted on 04/23/2012 12:07:36 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tbw2
Is the sun cooler during a shallow cycle?

The theory is that the sunspot level is an indicator of the strength of the solar magnetic field. When the solar field is strong, the earth is better shielded from cosmic ray particles (high velocity charged particles). Higher levels of cosmic ray particles promote cloud formation, resulting is less solar heating of the ground. So low sunspot level = low solar magnetic field = more clouds = lower temperatures.

Of course the whole notion is ridiculous, since everybody knows that the Earth's temperature is solely determined by the CO2 level.

Still there is that pesky correlation, where the Maunder Minimum of 1650-1700 coincided with the Little Ice Age, and similar cool effects happening during the Dalton Minimum, but that's just crazy talk.

50 posted on 04/23/2012 4:56:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson