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Robert Spencer Asks: Did Muhammad Exist?
FrontPage Magazine ^ | April 23, 2012 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 04/23/2012 4:47:09 AM PDT by SJackson

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Robert Spencer Asks: Did Muhammad Exist?

Posted By Bruce Thornton On April 23, 2012 @ 12:55 am In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 7 Comments

Editor’s note: Robert Spencer’s acclaimed new book, Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins, is now available. To order, click here

One of the jihadists’ most potent psychological weapons is the double standard Muslims have imposed on the West. Temples and churches are destroyed and vandalized, Christians murdered and driven from the lands of Christianity’s birth, anti-Semitic lunacy propagated by high-ranking Muslim clerics, and Christian territory like northern Cyprus ethnically cleansed and occupied by Muslims. Yet the West ignores these depredations all the while it agonizes over trivial “insults” to Islam and Mohammed, and decries the thought-crime of “Islamophobia” whenever even factual statements are made about Islamic history and theology. This groveling behavior confirms the traditional Islamic chauvinism that sees Muslims as the “best of nations” destined by Allah to rule the world through violent jihad.

Even in the rarefied world of academic scholarship, this fear of offense has protected Islam from the sort of critical scrutiny every other world religion has undergone for centuries. Some modern scholars who do exercise their intellectual freedom and investigate these issues, like Christoph Luxenberg or Ibn Warraq, must work incognito to avoid the wrath of the adherents of the “Religion of Peace.” Now Robert Spencer, the fearless director of Jihad Watch and author of several books telling the truths about Islam obscured by a frightened academy and media, in his new book Did Muhammad Exist? challenges this conspiracy of fear and silence by surveying the scholarship and historical evidence for the life and deeds of Islam’s founder.

As Spencer traces the story of Muhammed through ancient sources and archaeology, the evidence for the Prophet’s life becomes more and more evanescent. The name Muhammad, for example, appears only 4 times in the Qur’an, as compared to the 136 mentions of Moses in the Old Testament. And those references to Muhammad say nothing specific about his life. The first biography of Muhammad, written by Ibn Ishaq 125 years after the Prophet’s death, is the primary source of biographical detail, yet it “comes down to us only in the quite lengthy fragments reproduced by an even later chronicler, Ibn Hisham, who wrote in the first quarter of the ninth century, and by other historians who reproduced and thereby preserved additional sections.”

Nor are ancient sources outside Islam any more forthcoming. An early document from around 635, by a Jewish writer converting to Christianity, merely mentions a generic “prophet” who comes “armed with a sword.” But in this document the “prophet” is still alive 3 years after Muhammad’s death. And this prophet was notable for proclaiming the imminent arrival of the Jewish messiah. “At the height of the Arabian conquests,” Spencer writes, “the non Muslim sources are as silent as the Muslim ones are about the prophet and holy book that were supposed to have inspired those conquests.” This uncertainty in the ancient sources is a consistent feature of Spencer’s succinct survey of them. Indeed, these sources call into question the notion that Islam itself was recognized as a new, coherent religion. In 651, when Muawiya called on the Byzantine emperor Constantine to reject Christianity, he evoked the “God of our father Abraham,” not Islam per se. One hundred years after the death of Muhammad, “the image of the prophet of Islam remained fuzzy.”

Non-literary sources from the late 7th century are equally vague. Dedicatory inscriptions on dams and bridges make no mention of Islam, the Qur’an, or Mohammad. Coins bear the words “in the name of Allah,” the generic word for God used by Christians and Jews, but say nothing about Muhammad as Allah’s prophet or anything about Islam. Particularly noteworthy is the absence of Islam’s foundational statement “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.” Later coins referring specifically to Muhammad depict him with a cross, contradicting the Qur’anic rejection of Christ’s crucifixion and later prohibitions against displaying crucifixes. Given that other evidence suggests that the word “muhammad” is an honorific meaning “praised one,” it is possible that these coins do not refer to the historical Muhammad at all.

Related to the issue of Muhammad’s historical reality is the date of the Qur’an, supposedly dictated to the Prophet by the angel Gabriel. Yet Spencer’s analysis of the inscriptions inside the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, with their mixture of Qur’anic and non-Qur’anic verses along with variants of canonical Qur’anic scripture, suggests rather that the Qur’an came into being later than 691 when the mosque was completed. Indeed, the inscriptions could be referring not to Muhammad but to a version of Jesus believed in by a heretical sect that denied his divinity. At any rate, the first historical inscription that offers evidence of Islamic theology dates to 696 when the caliph Abd al-Malik minted coins without a representation of the sovereign and with theshahada, the Islamic profession of faith, inscribed on them. At this same time we begin to see references by non-Muslims to Muslims. Before then, the conquerors were called Ishmaelites, Saracens, or Hagarians. This evidence, Spencer suggests, raises the provocative possibility that al-Malik “greatly expanded on the nascent Muhammad myth for his own political purposes.” Likewise the Hadith, the collections of Muhammad’s sayings and deeds that form “the basis for Islamic law and practice regarding both individual religious observance and the governance of the Islamic state.” They also elucidate obscure Qur’anic verses, providing “the prism through which the vast majority of Muslims understand the Qur’an.” Yet there is no evidence for the existence of these biographical details of the Hadith before their compilation. This suggests that those details were invented as political tools for use in the factional political conflicts of the Islamic world.

Spencer casts an equally keen critical eye over the early biographies of Mohammad to find the same problems with source authenticity and origins, and their conflicts with other Islamic traditions. These problems, along with the miraculous and folk elements of Ibn Ishaq’s biography, suggest that the latter arose long after the collection of the Qur’an. As Spencer concludes, “If Ibn Ishaq is not a historically trustworthy source, what is left of the life of Muhammad?” The history of Islam and Mohammad recalls the statement of the reporter in John Ford’s The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance: “When the legend becomes fact, print the legend,” particularly when the legend was so useful for conquest and the consolidation of power during factional rivalries among Muslim rulers and sects.

So too with the integrity of the Qur’an, the supposedly unchanging and uncreated words of Allah dictated to Mohammad, the perfect copy of the eternal book transmitted in its purity without alteration or addition. Yet apart from fragments, modern Qur’ans are based on manuscripts that date no farther back then the medieval period. The first mention of the Qur’an appears in 710, decades after it allegedly inspired Muslim conquests from Persia to North Africa. Nor is it true that the book has not changed: “Even Islamic tradition shows this contention to be highly questionable, with indications that some of the Qur’an was lost and other parts were added to or otherwise changed.” Such textual variants, revisions, lost passages, numerous influences from Jewish and Christian writings and doctrines, and the presence of words in the Syriac language (likely including the word “Qur’an” itself), along with the fact that about one-fifth of the book is simply incomprehensible––all call into question the idea of the Qur’an’s purity unchanged since it was divinely dictated to Mohammad.

Spencer’s careful, detailed, well-reasoned survey and analysis of the historical evidence offer strong evidence that Muhammad and Islam itself were post facto creations of Arab conquerors who needed a “political theology” delivered by a “warrior prophet” in order to unify the vast territories and diverse religious and ethnic groups now subjected to Muslim power, and to provide a potent basis for loyalty to their new overlords. As Spencer explains, “the empire came first and the theology came later.”

“The full truth of whether a prophet named Muhammad lived in seventh-century Arabia,” Spencer concludes, “and if he did, what sort of a man he was, may never be known. But it would be intellectually irresponsible not to ask the question or consider the implications of the provocative evidence that pioneering scholars have assembled.”  The great service Spencer provides goes beyond popularizing the critical study of one of the world’s largest religions in order to advance our knowledge and establish historical reality. At a time when the threat of jihadist violence has silenced many people and intimidated them into voluntarily surrendering their right to free speech and the pursuit of truth, Spencer’s brave book also demonstrates the importance of those quintessential and powerful Western ideals.

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To: Lazamataz

More important, Allah is fictional as well.

41 posted on 04/23/2012 9:35:18 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: BuffaloJack

>> Please cite source for Omar.

> It’s from an article that I read on JihadWatch 7 or 8 years back when Hugh Fitzgerald joined Can I locate the original source? Not gonna try. Go to jihadwatch and do your own looking up.

42 posted on 04/23/2012 10:01:28 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: theBuckwheat
More important, Allah is fictional as well.

No, Allah is real. Allah is Satan.

43 posted on 04/23/2012 11:02:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: SJackson

But I’ve seen in various Jewish history books the translation of a letter from various rabbis in Medina to Muhammed in effect rejecting him as a prophet, but expressing gratification that he has become a believer in the existence of one supreme G-d. If they wrote him a letter, then he must have existed. Apparently, the letter really p@#$ed him off.

44 posted on 04/23/2012 11:28:11 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Lazamataz
No, Allah is real. Allah is Satan.


45 posted on 04/23/2012 11:28:11 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: VanShuyten

Another explanation I’ve heard is that the sea routes were working more effectively and this impoverished the caravaneers.

Mo worked the camel caravans. When pirates or predatory governments made movement of goods via the Red Sea or Persian Gulf too expensive, merchants switched to camel caravans across the Arabian Peninsula, which were of course much more expensive than water shipment otherwise. This was the major economic activity of Arabia, supporting most of the townspeople like Mohammed’s clan. Even the Bedouin depended on the caravans. No caravans, raiding isn’t very profitable.

Supposedly an economic crisis in the peninsula preceded the Muslim explosion, possibly caused by switch to water rather than land shipment.

46 posted on 04/23/2012 11:54:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Eleutheria5

Spencer would suggest they might be addressed to a number of Muhammeds, not necessarily th Muhammed known today. Not sure it matters, whether he’s a historical individual, likely, or an an after the fact composite a century later, jihad is still an imperative.

47 posted on 04/23/2012 4:39:16 PM PDT by SJackson (As a black man, you know, Barack could get shot going to the gas station, M Obama)
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To: SJackson

The details about his four wives in the Hadith does sound real, though. If you want to create a composite legend about a prophet of unblemished righteousness, you don’t have him go around shtupping nine-year-olds or marrying six-year-olds and then waiting three years to shtupp them. With a sex life like that, he’d have to be as real as Jerry Lee Lewis.

Great picture of that in one of the art shops on Jaffe Street, btw. Mad Mo has got his tongue in this pre-pubescent pauper girl’s ear, and she’s looking out at the world with a hopeless, resigned look in her eyes. I’m amazed that the Arabs haven’t rioted over it. I scribbled a poem about it in my notebook somewhere.

48 posted on 04/23/2012 5:32:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Then there’s the epilepsy. There’s a consensus among physicians who have read the accounts of his ‘prophesies’ in the Hadith and Koran that he definitely had epilepsy. Can there have been multiple Mohameds with epilepsy,or did the authors of those accounts merely happen to spell out its symptoms without realizing it, about a fictional person? I’d say he existed.

49 posted on 04/25/2012 1:27:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: SJackson; Perdogg; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks SJackson. From the vast collection on the hard drive:
  • Did Muhammad Ever Really Live? by Perdogg -- "A number of Islamic associations have put a quick end to their collaboration with a professor -- and trainer of people who are supposed to teach Islam in German high schools -- who has expressed his doubt that Muhammad ever lived. Islam scholar Michael Marx spoke with SPIEGEL ONLINE about what lies behind the debate and the historical person of the Prophet." [2008]
  • Zul-Qarnain - What is the argument? by Jochen Katz (not on FR) -- [snip]I have never claimed that Zul-Qarnain *is* the historical Alexander the Great. I don't know why your move to agree with me in this is considered a rebuttal... The argument is then that the Qur'anic story is clearly taken from the legends about Alexander. There are many many details of the Qur'an account which are nearly verbatim to be found in the Alexander legends. Conclusion: Zul-Qarnain clearly is the Alexander the Great of the legend stories. And because the Qur'an presents the material from the legends as if this were history, it shows that Muhammad could not distinguish between legends and history when he incorporated this material in the Qur'an. This is evidence that the Qur'an is not of divine origin.[/snip]
Perhaps not pingworthy, but oh how I've indulged myself in the past...

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.

50 posted on 04/26/2012 4:20:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time --
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To: SJackson; nuconvert; Dajjal; TigerLikesRooster; SunkenCiv

I guess that Spencer is using research done by Sven Kalisch that formerly was a Muslim scholar, and since that is impossible be skipped the muslim part:

Doubt about Muhammad’s Existence Poses Threat to Islamic Religious Education 18 sept 2008

51 posted on 04/26/2012 4:52:51 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Sherman Logan; wideawake

Good theory.

add the comments by wideawake (from 2004):

The Nabataeans were an Arabic people who lived on the eastern borders of the Jews. They spoke Aramaic and they were allies of the Romans. Their religion was apparently a mixture of Arab paganism with tinges of Judaism and Christian influences as well.

If the Koran shows as heavy an Aramaic influence as this guy suggests, it makes it pretty likely that the Koran is just cobbled-together fragments of eclectic Nabataean religious texts.

Just as many Jewish texts are written in a blend of Aramaic and Hebrew using Aramaic script, the Koran could be a blend of Arabic and Aramaic in Arabic script.

This would explain the thousands of words and phrases in the Koran that are obscure and that have provoked endless commentary. It would also explain why the Koran is so disorganized and shuffled. It is the least coherent, in terms of narrative structure, of any major Near Eastern text.

and we have a pretty good idea of the beginning of the problem.

52 posted on 04/26/2012 4:58:35 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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sorry, this is the link

53 posted on 04/26/2012 5:04:00 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

“I guess that Spencer is using research done by Sven Kalisch “

Among others. I wonder if there’s really anything new in his book, or he just needed a bigger payday?

54 posted on 04/26/2012 5:17:06 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter; BuffaloJack
Robert Spencer was joking. Omar Sharif is NOT Hugh Fitzgerald.
55 posted on 04/26/2012 5:38:49 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Lazamataz

Also, there are no pictures of him.


56 posted on 04/26/2012 6:14:20 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: newfreep
What was catalyst that caused him to make the change?

Perpetual outrage can be exhausting.

57 posted on 04/26/2012 7:23:17 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: VanShuyten; Sherman Logan; wildandcrazyrussian

Here’s the real reason for the Arab “explosion” out of the peninsula: the tribes along the Levant were nominally Christian - Monophysites: - the Ghassanids: guarded the trade routes. Eventually, the Byzantines attacked the leadership as heretical and Islam was welcoming. Once they became oppressed by Byzantium they decided to switch and depredate the trade routes themselves. Hence Islam, the religion of predation, was a perfect match.

You’ll note that once other people’s money runs out Islam slows down quite a bit.

58 posted on 04/26/2012 9:26:45 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lazamataz

Muhammad will be returning as the Mahdi with one hundred million post apocalyptic zombies and vampires

59 posted on 04/26/2012 9:36:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: 1010RD

The Byzantines had for a century or two been persecuting Jews and “heretical” Christians all through the Levant, Egypt and North Africa.

For most of these people, the switch from orthodox Christian to Muslim rule really was an (initial) improvement, economically and for religious freedom, etc.

1500 years later it hadn’t really worked out that way.

Spain had also been indulging in religious persecution of minority groups, who reasonably enough felt little loyalty to their persecutors.

It is interesting that Muslim expansion more or less ran into a brick wall and stopped for centuries when it bumped up against united Christian populations in Italy, France, Anatolia, etc.

60 posted on 04/26/2012 9:51:31 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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