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Chevy Volt a charged issue
Politico ^ | April 22,2012 | Darren Samuelsohn

Posted on 04/23/2012 7:25:12 PM PDT by Hojczyk

The Chevy Volt — manufactured by bailout recipient General Motors, championed by President Barack Obama and touted as a solution to global warming.

No wonder it’s become an election-year punching bag for conservatives.

From Rush Limbaugh to Mitt Romney, critics on the right have tried to turn the electric-gasoline plug-in hybrid car into a synonym for Big Government overreach. Fox News business anchor Neil Cavuto recently called it a “Fred Flintstone car” and the “dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.”

“It’s going to lead to a lot of divorces,” Cavuto said, theorizing that spouses will fight over who forgot to charge their Volt overnight.

But the Volt also has passionate supporters who want the right to embrace it — starting with former GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz, who famously called global warming a “crock of sh—.”

“We’ll probably see the Volt as a political football through November, and then it’ll go away,” Lutz told POLITICO.

Lutz, a Republican, has been making the rounds in Washington and New York over the past several weeks to defend the car during visits with conservative think tanks, including the American Enterprise Institute and influential columnists like Charles Krauthammer.

He said people need to separate the Volt from their feelings about Obama, climate science and Al Gore.

“The problem with conservatives is getting them to accept that an electric vehicle is not necessarily a left-wing environmental plot,” Lutz said. “They see it as a product of the Obama administration and a product of the green movement, and this is the result of government mandates. It’s taken on a symbolic role in the right-wing media as everything that’s wrong with Big Government, and yet, the vehicle was conceived by private industry.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chevyvolt; volt

1 posted on 04/23/2012 7:25:13 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Dolt...not Volt. DOLT!


2 posted on 04/23/2012 7:30:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Hojczyk
Coal burner -- intelligent people know electric vehicles don't stop pollution, they just relocate it.


3 posted on 04/23/2012 7:35:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Hojczyk
If somebody wants to buy a Volt, I could not care less.

Just do it without the $7,500 Taxpayer funded down payment.

4 posted on 04/23/2012 7:35:32 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Hojczyk
“The problem with conservatives is getting them to accept that an electric vehicle is not necessarily a left-wing environmental plot,” Lutz said. “They see it as a product of the Obama administration and a product of the green movement, and this is the result of government mandates. It’s taken on a symbolic role in the right-wing media as everything that’s wrong with Big Government, and yet, the vehicle was conceived by private industry.”

What a kLutz.

5 posted on 04/23/2012 7:37:07 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Hojczyk
" Cavuto said, theorizing that spouses will fight over who forgot to charge their Volt overnight."

These sort of B.S. comments do not help. If the Volt isn't charged, it becomes a gasoline-powered car, instead of an EV. You could still drive it to work. The remark could apply to pure Electric Vehicles -- one of which, the Volt is not.

There's plenty to criticize the Volt for -- starting with the subsidies for buyers, the massive subsidies for GM, the high initial cost, and the (likely) high cost of battery replacement. Stick to those (and other valid) criticisms -- leave the bogus comments out.
6 posted on 04/23/2012 7:41:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Kickass Conservative

Exactly!
“The problem with conservatives is getting them to accept that an electric vehicle is not necessarily a left-wing environmental plot,” Lutz said.

It is a plot when it’s my taxpayer money that kept GM afloat, and prevented the onerous union contracts from being tossed out during bankruptcy. Since a healthy restructuring was not allowed to happen, GM still has problems. I will never buy a GM car, whether a Volt or otherwise. I love the way the left about the GM bailout being a success. They never count the tax breaks as part of the bailouts. Of course, who is able to take advantage of the tax breaks? The super rich who are the only ones who can afford the car, even with the tax break! It shows Obama can embrace the top 1% if they will buy the crappy Volt!


7 posted on 04/23/2012 7:44:36 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: Kickass Conservative
...and without the hundreds of thousands per car in other taxpayer subsidies, too.
8 posted on 04/23/2012 7:45:47 PM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: Hojczyk

If the Dolt was even half the car the Prius is, no government subsidies or mandates would be necessary. They would fly off the dealer show rooms. If it was truly conceived, developed and produced “solely” by private industry, it would have been scraped immediately (sort of a hybrid Edsel). They take a mediocre to poor vehicle and load it up with intangible environmentalism, guilt, ignorance, me-ism, etc. and try to pawn it off as being exceptional.


9 posted on 04/23/2012 7:46:25 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s a piece of junk.


10 posted on 04/23/2012 7:46:59 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Hojczyk

Damn right it’s a plot...to coerce someone into buying a $20k dollar 500 lb 1 gallon gas tank....


11 posted on 04/23/2012 7:47:40 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Hojczyk

Damn right it’s a plot...to coerce someone into buying a $20k dollar 500 lb 1 gallon gas tank....


12 posted on 04/23/2012 7:47:40 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Hojczyk

The real story should be the rise in traffic fatalities, a first in 61 years!

Cause, lighter and greener vehicles.


13 posted on 04/23/2012 7:51:57 PM PDT by Red6
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To: winner3000
I read that the average Volt owner has a household income of $170,000, you know, the One Percent. Why does the One Percent need a 47,500 Tax Credit to buy a Motor Vehicle?

Back in February / March, GM advertised a 3 Year, 36,000 Mile Lease for $369 a Month on a 2012 Volt. It was a Zero Down Payment Lease, which would be impossible with any car with a $40,000 MSRP.

The only way it could work was the $7,500 Tax Credit being pocketed by the Dealer. The numbers do not work any other way, even with the cheap Interest Rates we have today.

They should call it the Chevy Scam, not the Chevy Volt.

14 posted on 04/23/2012 8:19:06 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Oops, make that a $7,500 Tax Credit. Shift key, shift key..


15 posted on 04/23/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: Hojczyk
“We’ll probably see the Volt as a political football through November, and then it’ll go away,”
Is he predicting that Obama won't get reelected and that the Volt will go away? One can certainly hope that's the case. :=)
16 posted on 04/23/2012 8:25:02 PM PDT by Bob
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
After the battery runs out, the Volt gets 35 MPG, on PREMIUM Gas, which is .20 cents higher in cost per gallon than Regular Gas.

The Prius costs half what a Volt costs, runs on Regular Gas, seats five instead of the Volt's four and gets 50 MPG.

The numbers tell me everything I need to know.

17 posted on 04/23/2012 8:29:25 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

I may be wrong. But pre-bailout I believe GM had decided to scrap the volt.

it was post bailout that it was dug out of the scrap heap, given a new coat of paint and pushed in to production.


18 posted on 04/23/2012 8:52:17 PM PDT by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would have to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
If somebody wants to buy a Volt, I could not care less.

Just do it without the $7,500 Taxpayer funded down payment.

Exactly. I am 100% behind their right to choose a Volt. However, I demand a similar right to choose a diesel powered 4x4 F350 crew cab. I don't believe the government (ie. us taxpayers) should subsidize nor penalize either purchase. That's freedom.

19 posted on 04/23/2012 9:01:08 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kickass Conservative
After the battery runs out, the Volt gets 35 MPG, on PREMIUM Gas...

What a joke. I can match, and often beat that in my standard car that seats 5, running on regular. Sure, Volt owners get a few miles on battery first while I'm burning fuel. But they had to pay for that electricity too. Then they start burning more expensive fuel. It is too late and I'm too tire to run the numbers, but I'll bet you overall my cost per mile is lower than theirs. Oh, and I'm not hauling around the excess weight (think wear and tear on tires, brakes, and better handling) of a big, dangerous battery either.

20 posted on 04/23/2012 9:06:57 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Newt wants the CAFE Standards abolished.

For that alone he is my choice for POTUS.

21 posted on 04/23/2012 9:35:53 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: winner3000

“It shows Obama can embrace the top 1% if they will buy the crappy Volt!”

You need to separate your anger for the GM bailout from the Volt. It is a very nice vehicle. A much better car in every way than the Prius “clown car.” You might even venture onto the web and find out what owners think. One guy right here in my neighborhood has both a Prius and a Volt and says that they Volt is better in every respect and he commutes in in 150 miles a day!


22 posted on 04/23/2012 9:42:47 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
One guy right here in my neighborhood has both a Prius and a Volt

What the hey? He couldn't find a TDI? He must have more money than brains.

23 posted on 04/23/2012 9:47:22 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Instead of buying the Chevy Volt gas-electric hybrid ($46,000) that catches fire spontaneously while parked in your garage, you can spend $20,000 less and buy the gasoline Chevy Cruze and looks nearly the same. Oh, wait, the Chevy Cruze also suffers from engine bay fires. At least General Motors was consistent when it came to engineering the self-destruction features into the Volt and Cruze — and they do work.
24 posted on 04/24/2012 12:08:36 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Those are all valid points & do advance the argument against the Volt. What I was trying to say is that criticisms that imply that the Volt is a pure EV aren't helpful. At best, they simply set up straw men, which the other side (envirowhackos) can easily knock down. At worst, they are the like the disingenuous arguments I usually associate with leftists.
25 posted on 04/24/2012 10:35:28 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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