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But What about Justice for Zimmerman?
American Thinker ^ | April 24, 2012 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 04/23/2012 11:55:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

I keep thinking of an episode of the 1973 TV show Kojak: The Marcus-Nelson Murders. Homicide detective Kojak suspects that the black teenager accused of murdering two white girls is being framed by his fellow detectives.

The case gets a lot of media attention; politics and careers enter the mix. The frightened accused black kid pleads his innocence to detective Kojak who believes him. Kojak educates the defendant to the cold, harsh reality of the situation; he informs the kid that despite his innocence, the case has become such a political hot button, and because the police held the kid in jail for so long, he must be found guilty of something.

I see this same scenario developing in the Martin/Zimmerman case.

Most Americans desire a fair and just outcome when it comes to this tragedy. But Lord help us if the evidence proves Zimmerman innocent. If Zimmerman is ruled not guilty and allowed to walk, I foresee Rodney King-type riots in the streets. Thus, is Zimmerman's fate already sealed? Will a jury decide that Zimmerman must be declared guilty of something?

While Al Sharpton, the New Black Panthers, and all of the other racist race-hustling usual suspects clamor for justice for Trayvon Martin, I wonder if justice is even possible for George Zimmerman.

Tragically and frighteningly, we live in a time in which the law and truth appears to be losing relevance in America....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ericholder; florida; georgezimmerman; obama; obamacare; racewar; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
I'll bet Lloyd hasn't even heard about the racial beat-down in Mobile, Alabama yet.
1 posted on 04/23/2012 11:55:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tragically and frighteningly, we live in a time in which the law and truth appears to be losing relevance in America....

That's because the black criminal class keeps white liberal elites in power. And they don't care about anything other than that power.

2 posted on 04/24/2012 12:08:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A 78-year-old Ohio (Toledo) man says he was a victim of a hate crime when he was severely beaten by group of youths -- who allegedly said "this is for Trayvon," referring to the unarmed black Florida teen killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer
3 posted on 04/24/2012 12:23:56 AM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I spent some time at DU looking at the Trayvon threads.

It’s amazing. There’s a common opinion there that once Zimmerman committed the “crime” of profiling Martin, Martin was only being reasonable by physically assaulting Zimmerman. Martin’s unavoidable black rage was unleashed by the racist cop wannabe and his obvious bigotry, and he was merely dealing out a well deserved beating to the much larger Zimmerman.

When the violent racist Zimmerman was too cowardly to manfully take his justified beating, he pulled out his gun and shot the righteously agitated and unarmed youth, probably after Martin had turned his back and had ceased to be a threat, not that he wasn’t justified in smacking Zimmerman around anyway.

The local cops pulled up and had a chuckle with their pal Zimmerman, helped him make up his phony story and it’s only because of Holder and the media riding in like the cavalry that justice might be done.

Once in awhile a poster will point out the legal or logical problems with theories like this, and then he or she gets hounded for being a racist “Zimmerman defender”.

I’m afraid there is no reasoning with those who’ve convicted Zimmerman already. Pointing out facts or points of law only makes them angry.

I hold out hope, with reservations, for justice in court, but there will be no rational reaction in the street.


4 posted on 04/24/2012 12:25:07 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Justice for Zimmerman??
Ain’t he that racist skinhead who hunted down and shot dead an innocent, unarmed 14-year old black kid who was just skipping down the sidewalk with a bag of candy?
No. There will be no justice for George Zimmerman.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 12:34:54 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: M1911A1

Isn’t DU mainly black posters? I mean, it IS “Democrat Underground”.


6 posted on 04/24/2012 12:37:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone recall the MSM treatment of Richard Jewell (think Atlanta Olympics)?


7 posted on 04/24/2012 12:58:31 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who luvs ya’, baby?


8 posted on 04/24/2012 2:00:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: M1911A1

let God sort ‘em out.


9 posted on 04/24/2012 2:25:59 AM PDT by RC one (all y'all had to do was vote for Newt but noooooo, he wasn't good enough.)
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To: Lancey Howard

“Isn’t DU mainly black posters? I mean, it IS “Democrat Underground”.”
___________________________________________

I think most of the black Marxist hang out on the Topix
forums, a real collection of trash, but also some real Americans post there.
As for the Martin/Zimmerman fiasco, it is amazing how it has become such a big deal.
I have no doubt that similar events take place most every week in America, but somehow the media jumped on this one
to drum up black/white hate, and maybe give Obumbo a boost.
If the one killed were Zimmerman, the story would maybe make it in the second section, page 2.


10 posted on 04/24/2012 2:58:18 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: M1911A1
There’s a common opinion there that once Zimmerman committed the “crime” of profiling Martin, Martin was only being reasonable by physically assaulting Zimmerman. Martin’s unavoidable black rage was unleashed by the racist cop wannabe and his obvious bigotry, and he was merely dealing out a well deserved beating to the much larger Zimmerman.

The tragic irony exposed by that attitude is those who think "whitey" is only getting what he deserves have completely surrendered the moral high-ground.

Yes, people of color suffered years ago merely for the color of their skin. But to hold me (or any other white man) to blame for that is intellectually dishonest--and again, it surrenders the moral high-ground.

I had nothing to do with what happened to blacks decades or even months ago. But if I'm judged not by the content of my character but instead by merely the color of my caucasian skin, then those who judge me so are just as evil as the plantation owners and the Jim Crow proponents of the South.

Which is a sad, tragic irony indeed.

Not that the likes of Jackson, Sharpton, or Obama give a rat's rear end, mind you. Race-baiters remain race-baiters. No matter how flowing their rhetoric. No matter what their station.

11 posted on 04/24/2012 3:03:02 AM PDT by Jefferson Spins (in his grave at Monticello because our republic is imperiled from within.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In many prisons you have to join a gang that represents your race in order to survive. Even self-loathing lily-white liberals can only take so many rapes and beat downs from the gangs representing the other races before they become “racist” tattooed skinheads themselves for protection.

In prison the three dominate American races are fairly evenly matched so a kind of balance of power maintains a kind of “peace.”

Say, however, that the percentage of the races in prison were the same as in the United States as a whole. Naturally, the gangs representing whites would either destroy or control the other gangs from sheer numbers alone.
In prison the law of the racist radicals rule—Obama is trying to force America to go that way as well—he obviously does not know how to count and is aware of what even reasonable men are capable of doing when they and their loved ones are targeted just because of their race. When one is forced to either go racist or die...

12 posted on 04/24/2012 3:32:30 AM PDT by Happy Rain (VOTE FOR OBAMA OR HE WILL EAT YOUR DOG!!!)
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To: Happy Rain

“and is NOT aware” correction.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 3:34:44 AM PDT by Happy Rain (VOTE FOR OBAMA OR HE WILL EAT YOUR DOG!!!)
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To: Lloyd Marcus

ping


14 posted on 04/24/2012 3:54:39 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thus, is Zimmerman's fate already sealed? Will a jury decide that Zimmerman must be declared guilty of something?

Of course.

15 posted on 04/24/2012 3:55:10 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lloyd doesn’t miss much.


16 posted on 04/24/2012 4:04:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: M1911A1

Always remember that the basic democrat unit is the Lynch mob.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 4:07:10 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: GOPJ

“That’s because the black criminal class keeps white liberal elites in power. And they don’t care about anything other than that power.”

Absolutely correct!! That is why term limits MUST be imposed, it is the only hope to save our Country,


18 posted on 04/24/2012 4:08:55 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think most people care about fairness and justice or even know what fair and just is anymore.


19 posted on 04/24/2012 4:19:59 AM PDT by she geek
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People in the right generally don’t get justice this side of judgement day.


20 posted on 04/24/2012 4:25:19 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: All

does anyone have the recent list of crimes involving black on white “in the name of trayvon martin?”

Also, I have been looking for one GOOD artcle that ‘tells the accurate facts’ of the case to date in a non-biased manner.

Talking with others, I can’t believe the misconceptions out there. The original reporting in the case has really biased people.


21 posted on 04/24/2012 4:34:44 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Down with White Power!

Power to the People!

Whitey must pay!

Justice for Coloreds!

Content of character is a tragic notion....


22 posted on 04/24/2012 4:35:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: CharlotteVRWC

It seems the modern PUBLIC school system promotes “get tough or die” in the cities. When an 17-18 year old takes that behavior out in “normal” public areas, the result is as we see.

Martin would definitely have beat down anyone confronting him anywhere. It was his nature, same as a dog in a pack.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 4:51:37 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: M1911A1
I’m afraid there is no reasoning with those who’ve convicted Zimmerman already. Pointing out facts or points of law only makes them angry.

Never use facts and logic when talking with a lib.

Any facts that get in the way of the narrative that they have chosen, will be ignored or berated.

Look at global warming, oil "depletion", seas rising, ice melting, pick any of their causes and then check out the facts...total opposites.

24 posted on 04/24/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: M1911A1

It would behoove the misguided folks over at DU that the rioters will make no distinction between them and Freepers.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 6:28:10 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The case will never make it to trial.

The judge will throw it out with prejudice.

26 posted on 04/24/2012 6:31:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: jamaksin

I recall it quite well, and believe me, it frankly irritated me that people threw so much suspicion on him for doing what he should have been doing as a security guard - telling people to be careful around an unattended package, which often was the means for delivering a bomb when the terrorist isn’t suicidal. And he also did the right thing by reporting it. But then, if he really was a terrorist, wouldn’t he not be warning people to stay away from an unattended package?


27 posted on 04/24/2012 7:09:36 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>The judge will throw it out with prejudice.<<

We can always hope that the judge has the bravery to do the right thing.


28 posted on 04/24/2012 7:10:29 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: CharlotteVRWC

I have seen plenty of black on black, plus the regular gang wars, between the Asian, Black, and Latino gangs in California. If anything, well there’s a greater threat to people in these racial groups from a person with a similar racial background than from a random supremacist bigot, although frankly, all violence should be equally abhorrent. Frankly, I read the news nowadays, instead of bother watching it.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 7:15:56 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Aunt Polgara
We can always hope that the judge has the bravery to do the right thing.

Yes, let's hope. But it's a sad day when a judge is considered brave for simply applying what the law dictates.
30 posted on 04/24/2012 7:16:02 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My question is: Why have HOLDER and/or OBAMA not come out with a statement to the people that essentially states: "Let's not jump to conclusions here. All the facts are not yet available. We need to let the judicial process work."

That being said, prosecuting Zimmerman is nothing more than a classic example of political opportunism.

31 posted on 04/24/2012 7:38:14 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: Shane
I don't think term limits are the answer. Too much power is given to the professional 'civil servants' in Washington. There's nothing they would like more than a bunch of people who don't figure out the system until it's almost time to go home.

We need to elect a better quality of person... that's the key. Switch the incentives away from glad handers who need their egos massaged constantly - and are gullible to boot. That's what we're getting now - a nice class of aggressive but 'pleasant' used car salesmen types.

32 posted on 04/24/2012 8:47:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: M1911A1
...Lord help us if the evidence proves Zimmerman innocent. If Zimmerman is ruled not guilty and allowed to walk, I foresee Rodney King-type riots in the streets.

Liberal haters are nuts - you know that, right?

33 posted on 04/24/2012 9:44:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hoodies - because you can't kill a security camera for snitchin' - - freeper tacticalogic)
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To: M1911A1

“I spent some time at DU looking at the Trayvon threads.”

Did you shower afterwards?


34 posted on 04/24/2012 9:52:28 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: M1911A1

We’re studying mass hysteria in my sophomore English class in connection with “The Crucible.” My smarter students recognized immediately that the reaction of many in the Treyvon Martin killing is a classic manifestation of mass hysteria. All of the elements are present, up to and including the persecution of innocents, such as those I’ve read about who have been attacked by black youths in “response” to Treyvon’s death. In place of the unseen demons and witches, we have the unseen white racism and privilege.

At least a few people will grow up relatively immune to this kind of insanity. Not enough, though.


35 posted on 04/24/2012 12:23:40 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Judges are political animals. It will make it to court.
36 posted on 04/24/2012 1:32:42 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: GOPJ
There is no question that entrenched bureaucrats are a large problem, however they don't enact laws Congress does. There is absolutely NO justification for career politicians. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizens who would leave their business and farms to serve the nation for a short period of time and the return to their occupations. I agree that we need a better quality of people to hold office but not for 30 years!
37 posted on 04/25/2012 5:12:59 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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