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To: Mr. K

First, it’s a semi-automatic, not an automatic pistol.

Second, 90% of SA Pistols are unsafe. Why? Because they lack a real safety, and an indicator of a round in the chamber.

Both the Taurus PT709 slim and the some of the Kahr models offer a REAL safety and a loaded chamber indicator you can see/feel in the dark. This, along with training, make these SA Pistols safer than a revolver, and easier to carry. Both pistols mentioned are < 3 x 5 inches and less than one inch thick.

What I mean by “real safety” is a safety that is NOT disengaged simply by gripping the gun in a normal manner. (grip interlocks, trigger safeties, etc).
They are great for the professional (police) use, but because the citizen does not use/shoot his gun on a daily basis, they more often lead to accidents.

BTW, for those of you glock lovers out there, no we are not in the old west quickdraw competitions. In fact, any competant gun trainer will tell you not to draw your concealed weapon unless there is at least 10-15 feet between you and your assailant.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 8:54:48 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
Second, 90% of SA Pistols are unsafe. Why? Because they lack a real safety, and an indicator of a round in the chamber.

So this means that 100% of all revolvers are also unsafe? Every weapon is safe if you as long as you keep your fingers and any other object off the trigger.

In a life or death, Oh sh!t situation you may not have time to rack and fire.

30 posted on 04/24/2012 9:54:27 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: BereanBrain
Second, 90% of SA Pistols are unsafe. Why? Because they lack a real safety, and an indicator of a round in the chamber. Both the Taurus PT709 slim and the some of the Kahr models offer a REAL safety and a loaded chamber indicator you can see/feel in the dark. This, along with training, make these SA Pistols safer than a revolver, and easier to carry.

We have different preferences. I don't want a loaded chamber indicator. All weapons are to be treated as loaded, whether or not they indicate as loaded. I don't find the "safety" particularly relevant in evaluating whether a firearm is safe either. None of my weapons are on "safe" at this moment, or ever unless required by rules at a particular range. In my interaction with firearms, safety comes from proper handling, not from mechanical devices. So long as others don't try to mandate particular safety measures for my weapons or for my home, I don't mind if they choose their own purchases based on their preferences but I would be unhappy with any efforts to require that I buy more junk that I don't want.

Note: My last purchase came with an annoying lock that suffered an immediate "mechanical failure". I do not want anything to interfere with the proper operation of my firearms, nor do I want to have to find and insert a key in the dark if I need to defend my family.

31 posted on 04/24/2012 10:17:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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