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An Expat Brit Analyzes America's Gun Culture
freelibertywriters.com ^ | 23 April, 2012 | Bruce Krafft

Posted on 04/24/2012 8:17:40 AM PDT by marktwain

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An Expat Brit Analyzes America's Gun Culture

Did Gary Younge get permission from his expat British overseer Imam to write his article?

21 posted on 04/24/2012 11:10:07 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I was having a conversation with a Brit and he made the mistake of bad mouthing the USA.

I told him to shut up as Britain had not done much right since Dunkirk.......ended that conversation.


22 posted on 04/24/2012 12:13:56 PM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: Hodar
There are approximately 90 guns for every 100 people in the US (a rate almost 15 times higher than England and Wales).

Funny, Gallup states that only 38% of American households report having a firearm.

If everybody used their whole brain, that percentage would only be around 2%. I wouldn't tell anybody that I don't care to let know that I have a firearm.

23 posted on 04/24/2012 12:35:42 PM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Hodar
That's because 52% (90%-38%) lost all their weapons on a boating trip. I know I did... pissed me off!
24 posted on 04/24/2012 1:36:07 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

I know how you feel. Who’d have thought taking canoe trip through the rapids with my rifles, shotgun and pistols would be so darn dangerous ...


25 posted on 04/24/2012 1:41:49 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: tx_eggman
I'm doing my part to keep the numbers up, my household has 8 ...

I guess that makes me something of a slacker - I only have four.

26 posted on 04/24/2012 1:52:14 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Hodar
Some stranger calls you up out of the blue and asks if you have any guns, what do you say?

Is it Gallup? Is it planning for some Kristalnacht?

I'd put the figure above 50%

27 posted on 04/24/2012 1:57:42 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Sofa King Mitt Odd Did Obamneycare)
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To: Sirius Lee

I really don’t know what the number is. Where I live now, I could easily believe 80%, but having visited my brother in Maryland (yes, he owns several rifles, pistols and shotguns) the ownership of guns is far less common. In his borough, I’d easily believe gun ownership is in the sub-38% realm.

I think the actual number lies between 38 and 90%, but I also expect it varies widely depending upon where you live. I own 4 weapons, the average is 4.4 (which I believe); I’d like to own more, but it’s always an issue of money - as is almost everything in life, isn’t it?


28 posted on 04/24/2012 2:04:09 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Yep, George the third didn’t like armed citizens either. We discussed it.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 2:34:08 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Ah, I get you now. But I should point out that the regulars who marched to Lexington and Concord were after serious military supplies (cannons, provisions etc) not people’s personal firearms. The idea of confiscating all the colonists’ personal arms would have been considered completely absurd...


30 posted on 04/24/2012 3:27:15 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Actually much of the revolution was contested with people's personal firearms and up to a point it's hard to separate them from serious military supplies.

The reasoning behind the 2nd amendment wasn't to ratify the right to hunt and shoot burglars, it was the right to resist government when government exceeded it's mandate.

Our constitution exists to protect not only against government excesses but against excesses of democracy too. This poses a problem for anyone trying to use popular demand as justification to disarm American citizens. The principle is often ignored and the abusers get away with it, but the principle still exists.

If all of the citizens of The United States but one voted to abolish all civilian possession of firearms an inalienable right of the one would be violated.

I tend to believe that if you're going to have a constitution at all you should stick to it, no ifs and buts about it.

I hear the refrain "but surely the founders didn't intend that" all too often, when it is obvious that the founders really did intend exactly that. "Shall not be infringed" is pretty damned clear, no ragged edges allowed.

Brits should really be embarrassed for inventing those knives with the funny ends, it's an admission of a failing society, and the USA should be ashamed of allowing the same to happen here.

31 posted on 04/24/2012 4:25:32 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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I do not believe that poverty causes crime, at least after certain basic needs for food and shelter are met, as they have been in the United States for many decades. Poor people do not need to steal to eat in the United States. In the United States, poor people are fat. In fact, it is exactly the opposite: Crime causes poverty.

You got it. In the United States, unless you are mentally disabled or have severe physical handicaps, the only thing stopping you from being self-supporting is your own attitude. And by "mentally disabled" I do NOT mean "having an inclination to become addicted to drugs or alcohol".

A girl in poverty can become self sufficient by simply (1) staying in school, paying attention, and learning to read, write, and do arithmetic, (2) not having kids until you are married to a stable man who has a stable job, and (3) finding a stable man and being a good wife to him.

A boy in poverty can become self sufficient by (1) learning to read, write, and do arithmetic, 92) not committing any crimes, and 93) being willing to work.

It's not that hard.

32 posted on 04/25/2012 5:56:51 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: marktwain

bflr


33 posted on 04/25/2012 6:05:45 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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A boy in poverty can become self sufficient by (1) learning to read, write, and do arithmetic, 92) not committing any crimes, and 93) being willing to work.

That would include being willing to relocate to where a job is.

34 posted on 04/25/2012 7:17:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
That would include being willing to relocate to where a job is.

That too.

Then again, businesses also relocate towards where there are good workers, and away from where there are bad workers (especially when you have a situation where you can be hit with EEOC sanctions if your employee demographics does not reflect the demographics of the local work force).

35 posted on 04/25/2012 9:01:15 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: marktwain
In fact, it is exactly the opposite: Crime causes poverty.

I believe that was the topic of a Thomas Sowell column several years ago, and he concluded the same. That crime is one of the "root causes" of poverty, not the other way around.

36 posted on 04/26/2012 4:39:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: marktwain

No matter how powerful corrupt agencies become, how deeply embedded groups like the Communist Party USA becomes in politics, no matter how much Islam invades the courts, the schools, the military the bottom line is this.

The people have the final say.

Unlike in other countries where the people have been neutered into peasants in America the gun become the code of enforcement. the more the attempt to remove them the more people will buy ammunition.

Cannot be changed.


37 posted on 04/26/2012 4:45:02 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: marktwain

Yes. To the point.


38 posted on 04/27/2012 9:28:15 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Hodar

Nothing funny about it at all. Many of the 38% of US households presumably own more than one firearm.


39 posted on 05/02/2012 5:55:36 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Sudetenland
There is certainly a causal link between poverty and violence, but to say that the one causes the other is a vast oversimplication.

As for Blacks being responsible for a disproportionate amount of the violence reported in the crime stats - maybe, but they are also suffering a diproportionate amount of the poverty going around too. To draw the conclusions you come to, you'd have to examine the murder/violent crime rate of poor white americans and find it was lower than that of poor blacks.

Of course, that does NOT let blacks off the hook. They are at least partially responsible for the poverty that goes hand in hand with violence. At the least its not completely "whiteys" fault.

40 posted on 05/02/2012 6:03:46 AM PDT by Vanders9
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