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Obama Asks Students for 'Amen'
Weekly Standard ^ | 4/24/12 | Daniel Halper

Posted on 04/24/2012 11:02:07 AM PDT by Nachum

At an event at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, President Barack Obama tried to rouse the crowd by asking for an "amen."

"The fact is that since most of you were born, tuition and fees at America's colleges have more than doubled," Obama said. "And that forces students like to take out a lot more loans, there are fewer grants, you rack up more debt. Can I get an 'amen'?"

The students responded: "Amen!"

Obama continued: “The average student who borrows to pay for college now graduates with about $25,000 in student loan debt—that’s the average, some are more. Can I get an ‘amen’ for that?”

"Amen," the students responded.

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And the rest of us say "Oy Vey"
1 posted on 04/24/2012 11:02:16 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I’ve met students who owe over $560,000 between the two, and another student in Theological School owes $132,000. Most kids I know all end up with over $60,000 owed. I don’t think an average is $25k.


2 posted on 04/24/2012 11:05:03 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Nachum

You know, I think he really doesn’t know what caused tuition inflation. He’s as ignorant as the kids.


3 posted on 04/24/2012 11:05:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Nachum

OMG!

And...

Holder sues Florida city, says firefight test racist—says the biggest racist around, besides 0bamao


4 posted on 04/24/2012 11:06:13 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: Nachum

Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.

-Judge Smails


5 posted on 04/24/2012 11:06:21 AM PDT by Autonomous User ( As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.)
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To: Nachum

The only way that quota baby will get an “amen” from most literate folks is if they are under the impression that it is Kenyan for “up yours”.


6 posted on 04/24/2012 11:06:21 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Nachum

Call and response, call and response, the tactics
of mass manipulation. These instances combined with
the Occupy movement (so called) bode evil times
are ahead for freedom loving individuals.


7 posted on 04/24/2012 11:07:11 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

There he goes with the “some are paying more” than the average meme like the ad on High School Drop Outs. Yes, some are paying more. Some are paying LESS. Thus the point of averages.


8 posted on 04/24/2012 11:08:22 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Nachum

So, rather than do something to reduce the vastly inflated tuition costs, Obama’s answer to have American taxpayers start footing the bill.


9 posted on 04/24/2012 11:08:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Nachum

just replace amen with sieg heil.


10 posted on 04/24/2012 11:10:33 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: rovenstinez

-—I don’t think an average is $25k.——

My daughter is going to commute to the local state college to get her worthless degree for $7k/yr. She will work part-time to pay tuition, so she can graduate debt-free.

She needs a worthless teaching degree to teach in a Catholic school.

I know the degree is a joke, my daughter knows the degree is a joke, and the college probably does too.

At least it’s relatively inexpensive. 8-P


11 posted on 04/24/2012 11:11:37 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: circlecity

The student loan deal is another liberal funding program.

Students borrow huge sums at subsidized rates, pay big $$ to colleges for overpriced education.

Schools pay big $$ in salaries to liberal profs and administrators.

Profs and admins contribute $$ to liberal candidates and causes.

And repeat.....


12 posted on 04/24/2012 11:12:00 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Nachum

Heh... tuition costs rose as a direct response to available, federally-guaranteed student loan money. Period.

Want to see tuitions come down? Do away with federal money for college.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 11:12:25 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Autonomous User

“Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.”

You don’t expect any of these students to actually get a freaking job do you?! I doubt many of them are taking courses that would help them get a job!


14 posted on 04/24/2012 11:17:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Nachum

He’s really starting to annoy me.


15 posted on 04/24/2012 11:18:35 AM PDT by AU72
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To: rovenstinez

Unless of course they were like my daughter who has a total of 10,000 in loans. The rest was paid for by her working and going to school

I had ZERO dollars in loans as I worked and ant to school at the same time.

Perhaps it is the laziness of the mutes.

How in the hell do you acquire more than a half a million in student loans?? It says they went to the ‘best’ (make that the most expensive) school for the maximum amount of time and took NO work on the side to help defray costs. It is NOT tax payers responsibility to educate those who are to lazy to work to educate themselves.

A pox on all of their houses


16 posted on 04/24/2012 11:19:00 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Dratted autofill

that should read laziness of the ‘yutes’


17 posted on 04/24/2012 11:19:45 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Can your daughter go to a Christian college for the teaching degree?


18 posted on 04/24/2012 11:21:19 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
It's not a joke. If nothing else, it's certified proof she can take on a complex multi-year project involving lots of people and finish it. And she's smart enough to not get into stupid levels of debt for it. Kudos.
19 posted on 04/24/2012 11:21:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Nachum

“...and let thy Holy Pell Grants shine down upon us” /sarc


20 posted on 04/24/2012 11:23:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Nachum

Where are the atheist parents and their faux outrage when you need them?


21 posted on 04/24/2012 11:25:02 AM PDT by TheRobb7 (The Margin of GOP victory MUST exceed the margin of Democrat election theft!)
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To: Nifster
They do it by signing wherever told to by people interested in maximizing someone else's debt. "What school do you want to attend? What degree do you want to get? OK, sign here."

My wife & I together managed 5 degrees (Ivy League included) for under $100K, debt-free. If you take time to THINK and RESEARCH, you can go so far as getting the school to pay you.

If you're paying list price for a degree, you're doing it wrong.

22 posted on 04/24/2012 11:25:43 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Nachum

just don’t get old and have a student loan......

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/defaulted-loans-may-haunt-seniors-2010-03-08


23 posted on 04/24/2012 11:32:17 AM PDT by freedommom
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To: Nachum
Isaiah 65:16

"That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes."

Both these words that are translated "truth" are the Hebrew word "amen".

Thus, it is declaring this by the God of Amen, the Jehovah God who cannot lie (Titus 1:2). In this context this word is expressing God's faithfulness. That He alone is the Amen, the God of truth.

Indeed, the Lord is the very essence of truth. So by comparing scripture with scripture and allowing it to be its own dictionary and interpreter, we can come to sound conclusions about what words really mean in scripture. By looking at the contexts where words are used, we can see that Amen is defined as truth. And not only in the Old Testament, this understanding of the word continues to be made manifest in the New Testament as well.

24 posted on 04/24/2012 11:35:49 AM PDT by donna (Mitt? NEVER!)
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To: Navy Patriot

-—Can your daughter go to a Christian college for the teaching degree?-—

Can’t afford it. We homeschooled and have no money saved for college. Not complaining, just saying.

I’ve prepared her to take F’s if necessary. She’s ready to do battle. 8-)

If we could afford it, I would have preferred that she go to Steubenville or Christendom.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 11:36:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: circlecity
So, rather than do something to reduce the vastly inflated tuition costs, Obama’s answer to have American taxpayers start footing the bill.

Exactly! I contend the reason for spiraling education costs is the fact that everyone now borrows. We should make it HARDER to get a student loan, not easier. This would force students to shop for an education with at least SOME consideration towards cost. This will force colleges to start controlling costs.
26 posted on 04/24/2012 11:40:46 AM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: Nachum

“Vote for me and we’ll stick that debt on those other guys - you know, the taxpayers.”


27 posted on 04/24/2012 11:40:54 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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To: TheRobb7

Atheists are not a-theists, they are a-Christian.

It’s OK to worship anything, even 0bama, as long as it isn’t Christ.


28 posted on 04/24/2012 11:42:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Nachum
Class of 2012 marks the fourth graduating class to graduate to no jobs. Can I get an Amen?
29 posted on 04/24/2012 11:43:06 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Nachum

“Can I get an Allahu Akbar?”


30 posted on 04/24/2012 11:46:00 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: ctdonath2

-—If nothing else, it’s certified proof she can take on a complex multi-year project involving lots of people and finish it.——

That’s true, but it’s still not worth $30k and 4 years of lost work experience. My sister went to a pricey teacher college and I read her books...

The high school-educated sisters of yesteryear, who taught classes of 50 kids, did pretty darn well. They only lacked the ability to diagnose learning disabilities. And those skills can be learned very quickly.


31 posted on 04/24/2012 11:47:19 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: thethirddegree
“Can I get an Allahu Akbar?”

LOL!

32 posted on 04/24/2012 11:55:49 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Nachum

Oh, so now I am to believe that he thinks debt is a negative thing......Yeah right.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 11:56:39 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

[shrug] Self-assess and plan accordingly. Education is free; certification is expensive. If you’re not going to pay for proof of competency, then make the equivalent portfolio.

One mistake too many (self included) make/made: starting at the bottom and following the standard process (which, among other things, requires degree certification). Forget going in the front door, start by _building_ that door. Every kid should start a business before graduating high school: they then understand they can be their own boss, and already have a starting point to build from - rather than starting as mere peon to others under arbitrary rules.


34 posted on 04/24/2012 11:57:55 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I fully understand. I am paying for our niece's (2) home school costs and will help pay for any Christian conservative college. With extended family they will not have debt as graduates.

I’ve prepared her to take F’s if necessary. She’s ready to do battle.

Won't be necessary. If she can see through the indoctrination to get F's, she doesn't have to tell 'em so, just ignore it in her heart.

As she will teach in a Catholic school, she can ignore the indoctrination and teach the truth, and get along just fine.

Not so with a public school, failure to indoctrinate Marxism and secularism will get her fired, but then we both know that California public school is child abuse.

35 posted on 04/24/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

...we’ll stick that debt on those other guys - you know, your parents.


36 posted on 04/24/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Nachum

What a divisive con man!

So what does this communist thug propose exactly?

Does he not realize that the easy credit, just like homes, is what drives up tuitions since the school know the idiots can borrow any amount of money?

I hate this ghetto marxist street thug more every day. ABO!!!!!


37 posted on 04/24/2012 12:05:39 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Nachum

My healthcare premiums have doubled in just the last two years. Can I get an “amen” from King Barry for that?


38 posted on 04/24/2012 12:07:05 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: AU72

STARTING?!?!?!?!? lol


39 posted on 04/24/2012 12:07:41 PM PDT by dannibp (I must remind myself daily that God is in control.)
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To: Nachum

I remember when Hillary was even “reduced” to using religious terminology. Even to the extent, while in KY, tried to fake a KY accent.

These people are pathetic disingenuous frauds and slugs. Obama would have been better off just asking for a “seig heil”—it would have been more apt.


40 posted on 04/24/2012 12:10:03 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ctdonath2

-—Every kid should start a business before graduating high school: they then understand they can be their own boss, and already have a starting point to build from - rather than starting as mere peon to others under arbitrary rules.-—

A thousand times yes. Schooling has to be the worst possible preparation for entrepreneurship, which the founders of compulsory ed knew.

I have my own side business, and have tried to talk my kids into starting their own businesses, but they lack the drive. I guess that’s where being hungry comes in. Surprisingly, working at entry-level jobs isn’t sufficient motivation, but then, they’re not paying the bills.


41 posted on 04/24/2012 12:27:18 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

He’s already proved convincingly that he never even took Econ 101. As a country we have never suffered as incompetent a president as this phony. While I don’t want to wish away the presumed coming summer, I can’t wait for next January. I hope that the newly elected adults will come down hard on this guy and put him in Leavenworth where he needs to be. sd


42 posted on 04/24/2012 12:54:23 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Nachum
Gasp- He can't say amen that's against the separation of Church and State.[end sarcasm]
43 posted on 04/24/2012 1:00:46 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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To: Nachum

These pathetic skulls full of mush are the result of years of brain-washing in liberal schools, paid for by their equally clueless parents and U.S. taxpayers.


44 posted on 04/24/2012 1:07:34 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Nachum

Isn’t cutting the student loan interest rate helping the rich? There is no means testing for student loans.


46 posted on 04/24/2012 2:16:48 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Romney just makes me tired all over.)
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To: Nachum

47 posted on 04/24/2012 2:27:35 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Total frauds! I remember that Hillary was once a Cubs, er, I mean, Yankee fan too! Whenever It's convenient.

On another note, here's 0-rummy pandering to college kids again. The only audience that he feels he can control! Stupid college kids smiling in the background...Youth is wasted on the wrong people!
48 posted on 04/24/2012 2:45:15 PM PDT by italyconservative (I'll be holding my nose this November :-( Anyone but 0!)
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To: P.O.E.

Hi, P.O.E.

What is that a photo of?


49 posted on 04/24/2012 6:40:33 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah...OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: hummingbird

That’s a screen cap from Star Trek (TOS) “The Way to Eden”

One of the most hilarious episodes ever.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Way_to_Eden_(episode)


50 posted on 04/24/2012 7:21:15 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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