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Witness: Troy Teen Arrested for Carrying Rifle 'Was in His Legal Right' (MI)
patch.com ^ | 17 April, 2012 | Jen Anesi

Posted on 04/24/2012 12:01:21 PM PDT by marktwain

Troy High senior Sean Michael Combs, 18, was arrested Friday in downtown Birmingham after he was found carrying a loaded M1 Garand rifle.

It was a warm Friday night in April, and Troy High School senior Sean Michael Combs was enthusiastic about the rifle he received a month earlier as a gift for his 18th birthday, so he decided to carry it with him when he headed to downtown Birmingham with a friend.

Combs' choice to carry the M1 Garand slung over his shoulder resulted in his arrest by Birmingham Police – an experience his close friend Lia Grabowski calls "terrifying."

Grabowski spoke up on Combs' behalf Monday, saying her friend "was in his legal right" when he was arrested.

Grabowski, 17, also a senior at Troy High, said she was with Combs at the time of his arrest Friday and witnessed Combs' exchange with police.

“We were just walking down to Birmingham," Grabowski said. "We weren’t doing anything. There were groups of kids walking around.

"He’s a huge supporter of open carry and the right to bear arms, and he thought he could legally carry. He wasn’t going to use it on anyone. Obviously, he could have defended himself, but he wasn’t looking for a fight.”

Grabowski said she and Combs were approached by a few teenagers who asked if his rifle was real, though "nobody was afraid, and everyone was kind of curious."

Then, the pair was stopped by a police officer, who asked to see Combs' driver's license, Grabowski said. Combs declined, and moments later, two more officers arrived and arrested Combs as he reached to produce his identification, according to Grabowski.

"He was in his legal right," Grabowski said. "He refused to give him his ID, but not rudely."

Grabowski said she does not agree with the actions of the Birmingham Police officers, adding that the experience was "terrifying."

Combs is a four-year member of the Troy High School cross country team, serving as one of its captains this past season. He was also on the track team for three years and ran indoor track for two years.

"I can kind of understand the fact that he’s an 18-year-old, and he doesn’t really look 18, but he was completely within his legal right and they did not have a right to arrest him. ... They had what they asked for, and they arrested him anyway."

"We understand long gun open carry to be lawful" in the state of Michigan, said Phillip Hofmeister, president of Michigan Open Carry, Inc., though he added that the group does not advocate open carry of long guns. Also, according to the group's website, "under no legal obligation are you required to talk to a police officer or produce identification of any kind if you are not being detained."

Combs declined to comment Monday without his attorney present. He is scheduled to be arraigned May 2 on charges of disturbing the peace, brandishing a weapon and obstructing an investigation.

Birmingham Police could not be reached for comment Monday evening.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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It is legal to carry a rifle openly in Michigan. One does not need a reason to exercise a Constitutional right.

Many interesting comments at the link.

1 posted on 04/24/2012 12:01:31 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

We’re the enemy, the terrorist...you can’t exercise a Constitutional right when it doesn’t exist...


2 posted on 04/24/2012 12:06:04 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: marktwain

Did he have a dog with him? Did the cops shoot it?


3 posted on 04/24/2012 12:07:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: marktwain
Gun laws in Michigan:

Rifles and Shotguns


4 posted on 04/24/2012 12:10:49 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: marktwain

Disturbing the Peace. The most over-used and abused charge.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 12:11:22 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: marktwain
Birmingham's a yuppie area, and not friendly to the 2nd Amendment.

Personally, I don't LIKE longgun carry, but from a legal standpoint, it's allowed, and should be allowed.

6 posted on 04/24/2012 12:15:47 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
I grew up in a small Michigan town and carried guns into the local grocery store on many occasions simply because I was on my way to the woods at the edge of town.

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7 posted on 04/24/2012 12:17:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

Ah, he’s lawyered up. Good for him. I expect this will be expensive for Birmingham...


8 posted on 04/24/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
It is unlawful to possess a firearm in a financial institution, church, court, school, hospital, theater, sports arena, restaurant with a liquor or alcohol license or day care center.

And those are seriously in doubt.

MSP: Law allows some to carry guns in schools(MI)
9 posted on 04/24/2012 12:26:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Concur.

It is unlawful to carry a handgun concealed on or about one’s person or concealed or openly in a vehicle without a license to carry a concealed pistol.

This one also falls under the "Shall not be infringed." part of the Constitutionally protected right and should be contested.

10 posted on 04/24/2012 12:38:07 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

The Constitution of the State of Michigan of Article 1, Section 6 reads:

Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 12:40:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

How does a slung rifle qualify as “brandishing” when you aren’t even holding it? As far as “obstructing an investigation”, there was no investigation until the cops obstructed this man’s freedom as a citizen to walk down a public street with a legal firearm. Bulls#it charges - throw a bunch of them against the wall and see what sticks.


12 posted on 04/24/2012 12:51:33 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: marktwain
This is a story about the police. No commenting until ALL the facts are in.

/s

13 posted on 04/24/2012 12:52:02 PM PDT by Ken H (Austerity is the irresistible force. Entitlements are the immovable object.)
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To: marktwain

They have him if he refused to show ID, I think.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 1:02:44 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: marktwain

I saw a young woman in downtown Medford, Oregon on a mountain bike at a stop light with a pink-stocked AR-15 slung over her shoulder!

Now that’s “Right to Carry!”


15 posted on 04/24/2012 1:04:22 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: marktwain

“charges of disturbing the peace, brandishing a weapon and obstructing an investigation”

Did he really “brandish” the gun, or did his open carrying suddenly become “brandishing” because the cop didn’t like him? Same thing goes for “disturbing the peace” or “obstructing an investigation.” Basically it depends on how the officer’s feeling that day. The judge’ll back him up, unless you have clear evidence to the contrary. Which, most likely, explains many cities’ crackdown on videotaping cops in public without their consent.

From “The Wire”:

“Let me let you in on a little secret, the patrolling officer on his beat is the one true dictatorship in America, we can lock a guy up on the humble, lock him up for real, or say fuck it and drink ourselves to death under the expressway and our side partners will cover us, No one - I mean no one - tells us how to waste our shift.”


16 posted on 04/24/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Darren McCarty

“Personally, I don’t LIKE longgun carry, but from a legal standpoint, it’s allowed, and should be allowed.”

That’s well and good, but did you know that if you were a cop your “like” becomes the law through the magic of “disturbing the peace”? Those guys have all the fun.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 1:09:13 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: marktwain
M1 Garand rifle...for his 18th birthday.

Wow. Nice present.

18 posted on 04/24/2012 1:17:08 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

Michigan FIREARMS LAW

As more and more police officers are encountering citizens who are openly carrying firearms in Michigan, the Michigan State Police offers this special edition of the Update to assist officers in familiarizing themselves with Michigan laws regarding both open and concealed carrying of firearms.
Open carry of firearms

In Michigan, it is legal for a person to carry a firearm in public as long as the person is carrying the firearm with lawful intent and the firearm is not concealed. You will not find a law that states it is legal to openly carry a firearm. It is legal because there is no Michigan law that prohibits it; however, Michigan law limits the premises on which a person may carry a firearm.

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._86_2_336854_7.pdf


19 posted on 04/24/2012 1:20:52 PM PDT by XXXoholic
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To: ltc8k6

nope. he wasn’t committing a crime, he hadn’t been detained. no requirement to show id.


20 posted on 04/24/2012 1:24:17 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: XXXoholic

Stupid cops are going to cost the city lots of money.

Officers are reminded that the Fourth Amendment protects citizens from unreasonable searches and seizures. Carrying a non-concealed firearm is generally legal. Officers may engage in a consensual encounter with a person carrying a non-concealed pistol; however, in order to stop a citizen, officers are required to have reasonable suspicion that crime is afoot. For example, officers may not stop a person on the mere possibility the person may be carrying an unregistered pistol. Officers must possess facts rising to the level of reasonable suspicion to believe the person is carrying an unregistered pistol.

Officers are also reminded there is no general duty for a citizen to identify himself or herself to a police officer unless the citizen is being


21 posted on 04/24/2012 1:25:15 PM PDT by XXXoholic
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To: ltc8k6

” They have him if he refused to show ID, I think.”

This may vary by state, but I’m pretty sure you don’t have to show the police your id if they have no probable cause or “reasonable suspicion” to stop you. They might pretend as if you not showing them id or allowing them to search whatever they feel like searching constitutes PC in itself, but it doesn’t. We are only obliged to follow lawful orders.

Prudence demands that you play nice, since what’s lawful and what’s abuse of power gets fuzzy on the mean streets when the poop’s flying. But you don’t have to, strictly speaking. The cops’ tendency to treat everything like it’s an emergency when it suits them to do so, and to interpret every action by the public as a threat to the peace—which apparently they think is solely their duty to keep, and which can’t possibly be threatened by them—must be resisted if we’re to live in a country where you’re not in violation of the law whenever authority figures feel like you are.

The idea that you have to play along with whatever the police say is a myth, and something they rely on to extend their authority and thereby make their jobs easier. We are under no obligation to make the cops’ jobs easier.


22 posted on 04/24/2012 1:25:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: marktwain
It probably wasn't a great idea to carry an M-1 into town but it isn't always a bad idea either...

When I was a Marine Lieutenant in the late '70s, I bought an M-1 from a Gunner's Mate on the USS Dubuque on the way to a training exercise in California. I didn't have anyplace to store it at 29 Palms, so I decided to carry it by bus to my in-laws' house near L.A.. The problem was that even though I was in uniform, I didn't have a case for it, so I had to carry it in the open at sling arms. I also had an ammo box to carry, so I was really feeling conspicuous.

When I got to the L.A. bus station, I stood in a corner waiting for the next bus to take me to the San Fernando Valley and tried to stay out of the way. All of a sudden, a commotion broke out and the crowd opened up to give room to a fight between an LAPD officer and a taller, wiry African-American man. They were rolling around on the floor punching each other and I didn't see any sign of the officer's partner. I could also see two other men edging towards the two fighting, apparently getting ready to help the first guy fight the officer. The man on the ground with the officer tried to get the officer's pistol, so I stepped forward, opened the bolt on my M-1, and popped open the ammo can to pull out a clip.

Everything stopped at once: the men on the floor stopped punching, the two men approaching stopped where they were and everything went quiet. The cop on the floor started moving again and quickly cuffed the man he had been struggling with and his partner showed up and arrested to two other men. I returned the clip to the ammo box and closed the bolt of my rifle and the first cop - the one that had been fighting - came up to me and asked if I really was going to shoot. I told him that if that guy had gotten the pistol, I would have.

He looked at me for a second and then said "can I help you carry your rifle to your bus?". I was happy to let him carry it...

23 posted on 04/24/2012 1:27:15 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

Good story.


24 posted on 04/24/2012 1:36:10 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Chainmail
He looked at me for a second and then said "can I help you carry your rifle to your bus?". I was happy to let him carry it...

I thought the punchline of your story was going to be that the cop arrested you.

25 posted on 04/24/2012 1:42:50 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: SkyDancer
Did he have a dog with him? Did the cops shoot it?

Yeah, the jack-booted thugs have always been big dog-shooters. A pox on them. We have our rights.

26 posted on 04/24/2012 1:46:56 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: marktwain
When I was his age, we could walk around with rifles, and the cops would wave at us.

Birmingham now is a little bigger than Statesboro then.

27 posted on 04/24/2012 1:48:20 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: luvbach1
"I thought the punchline of your story was going to be that the cop arrested you."

I was pretty sure that I was going to be in trouble but that cop knew I was on his side. I didn't know whether to hit that bad guy with the rifle or to shoot - .30-06 has way too much power for firing in a public area - but I knew that time had run out. It probably helped that I was wearing my "Charlie" uniform with ribbons.

28 posted on 04/24/2012 1:54:19 PM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

Semper Fi


29 posted on 04/24/2012 1:56:17 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: marktwain
Then, the pair was stopped by a police officer, who asked to see Combs' driver's license, Grabowski said. Combs declined, and moments later, two more officers arrived and arrested Combs as he reached to produce his identification, according to Grabowski.

18 USC § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

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750.157a Conspiracy to commit offense or legal act in illegal manner; penalty.

Sec. 157a.

Any person who conspires together with 1 or more persons to commit an offense prohibited by law, or to commit a legal act in an illegal manner is guilty of the crime of conspiracy punishable as provided herein:

(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b), (c) and (d) if commission of the offense prohibited by law is punishable by imprisonment for 1 year or more, the person convicted under this section shall be punished by a penalty equal to that which could be imposed if he had been convicted of committing the crime he conspired to commit and in the discretion of the court an additional penalty of a fine of $10,000.00 may be imposed.

(b) Any person convicted of conspiring to violate any provision of this act relative to illegal gambling or wagering or any other acts or ordinances relative to illegal gambling or wagering shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 5 years or by a fine of not more than $10,000.00, or both such fine and imprisonment.

(c) If commission of the offense prohibited by law is punishable by imprisonment for less than 1 year, except as provided in paragraph (b), the person convicted under this section shall be imprisoned for not more than 1 year nor fined more than $1,000.00, or both such fine and imprisonment.

(d) Any person convicted of conspiring to commit a legal act in an illegal manner shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 5 years or by a fine of not more than $10,000.00, or both such fine and imprisonment in the discretion of the court.

30 posted on 04/24/2012 1:58:51 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: real saxophonist
When I was his age, we could walk around with rifles, and the cops would wave at us.

That's the way I grew up too. I remember sitting on the front porch of my friend's grandmother's house and hearing the phone ring. His granny answered the phone and she said "The boys are holding the porch down so I'll send them down to get them.". Then she came out and told us to walk down to the bar and get his dad's gun and his squirrels.

We went to the bar where his dad bought us a burger and a coke. When we were done the bartender handed the .22 over the bar and we took a duffle bag with a half dozen squirrels back to the house.

Right down town and nobody gave a couple of 12 year olds with a rifle a second glance.
31 posted on 04/24/2012 2:06:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Chainmail

Great job Lt.


32 posted on 04/24/2012 2:14:31 PM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: mnehring

“Disturbing the Peace. The most over-used and abused charge.”

In Jax FL a big favorite with HS and the JSO is “resisting arrest without violence”. I have personally witnessed it used in three instances, in each instance for refusing to consent to a search where JSO had no warrant.

I live aboard a sailboat, and when JSO thinks a marina has too many liveaboards, they begin hammering on boats and asking if they will consent to voluntary searches and safety inspections. They roust everybody out of their boats early in the AM and go through their boats and belongings, and do it every week until some of the liveaboards leave.

I asked for a search warrant one time, and refused to consent to a voluntary search, and was immediately arrested. They’ve done the same with everyone in marinas in this area.

When I tell this to people in more expensive marinas in JAX whete the luveaboard ratio is similar, but the marinas are palatial and charge twice as much as much as thos part of towm, they shake their heads in disbelief, and say this has never happened in their area once.

The judge was sympathetic, could not elimimate the fine, but converted it to a lien I would not have to pay...he said this practice is standard among the cops here...as he put it “I was guilty of saying ‘no’ to the JSO”.

The attitude and motivation of about a third of the police I have encountered here and elsewhere over the last 10 years ranges from deplorable to maniacal. When I encounter a particularly solid dignified cop, it often seems he’s trying to ride herd on the rest. Such a one dissuaded the arresting officers from taking me to lockup barefoot and shirtless in my swimming trunks, convincing them to only write me a citation.

Since then I have submitted to half a dozen such warrantless inspections/searches, and managed to be absent the other times they visit us.

Homeland security visits us regularly, its my feeling they are the ones who decide when there are too many liveaboards here, because we get the JSO immediately fter one of their “friendly visits”, if at all. Customs, too, occaisonally.

Surrender your constitutional rights and life will be much easier for you..seems to be the message.

PS...some of the liveaboards here have lots of guns...that doesn’t bother them. Two guys at different times were busted with small amounts of weed...the officers wrote them each a ticket and wished them good day. But insist on a search warrant, and you will immediately find yourself in handcuffs, with a night in jail with thieves and murderers if it suits the mood of the arresting officer.

And people wonder why I’m preparing to expatriate.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 2:18:01 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: Chainmail
...30-06 has way too much power for firing in a public area...

It also makes too much noise. I fired one (M1 Garand) in the Army in the days when they didn't have (or allow because I tried) ear protection. Significant loss of upper-range hearing in left ear, the one that I couldn't protect by pressing it against the stock.

34 posted on 04/24/2012 2:35:40 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: marktwain

This is great! These were teens insisting on their Constitutional rights. There’s hope after all.


35 posted on 04/24/2012 2:48:49 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: beelzepug

>there was no investigation until the cops obstructed this man’s freedom as a citizen to walk down a public street with a legal firearm.

Meaning it’s a 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendment case already.


36 posted on 04/24/2012 2:51:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ltc8k6

Let’s see how many liberals decry that “show me your papers” law.


37 posted on 04/24/2012 2:57:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cripplecreek

Yep. Now we’d be Swat-Teamed.
And for the record, that’s when I think we lost this country: When the term Swat-Team became a verb.


38 posted on 04/24/2012 3:08:06 PM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: cripplecreek
Why would the cop ask to see his license to operate a vehicle, when he was not operating a vehicle?

Why didn't this cop ask for a pilots license and a cosmetology permit while he was at it?

This just goes to show that the police really are not interested in defending the Constitution, they are actually enemies of it.

39 posted on 04/24/2012 4:25:03 PM PDT by Mark was here (When Drano is outlawed, only outlaws will have clear drains.)
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To: marktwain
Dumb move by the kid only because Birmingham, Royal Oak and fashionable Ferndale are a bastion of liberal idiots........

He has every right to carry his rifle as he did..........why he chose to have it loaded is beyond me.

40 posted on 04/24/2012 4:43:07 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: marktwain

“It is unlawful to possess a firearm in a financial institution, church, court, school, hospital, theater, sports arena, restaurant with a liquor or alcohol license or day care center.”

Interesting notes concerning MI infringement of our inherent rights endowed by our Creator. And like other “gun free feel good zones” — these ridiculous decrees will be ignored.


41 posted on 04/24/2012 4:49:02 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: TheBigJ

>>“It is unlawful to possess a firearm in a financial institution, church, court, school, hospital, theater, sports arena, restaurant with a liquor or alcohol license or day care center.”
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>Interesting notes concerning MI infringement of our inherent rights endowed by our Creator. And like other “gun free feel good zones” — these ridiculous decrees will be ignored.

The MI Constitution states: [Article 1, Section 6] — “Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.”

Therefore the statutes whereby carrying a gun into a church/school/court/etc would be prohibited are null and void.


42 posted on 04/24/2012 5:43:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Therefore the statutes whereby carrying a gun into a church/school/court/etc would be prohibited are null and void.

That is true, however, Federal law prohibits carrying in those areas UNLESS the individual has a state license, aka CPL, then the firearms must be openly carried.......

I know, it's all screwed up.

43 posted on 04/24/2012 5:51:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: OneWingedShark
Therefore the statutes whereby carrying a gun into a church/school/court/etc would be prohibited are null and void.

That is true, however, Federal law prohibits carrying in those areas UNLESS the individual has a state license, aka CPL, then the firearms must be openly carried.......

I know, it's all screwed up.

44 posted on 04/24/2012 5:56:08 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: absolootezer0; Tublecane

I thought the story said that he looked young. The police can just say they wanted to know his age.

It will be fairly easy for the police to justify asking for his ID, I think.

Probable cause can be a low standard.


45 posted on 04/24/2012 6:37:34 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: marktwain

http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20120422/NEWS02/204220350

Why would he have a round in the chamber?

If that’s true, he will likely lose in court.

The police can always come up with a reason to have asked him for his ID, that no one will be able to question.

They could even say they just wanted to see if the boy was safely carrying the rifle.


46 posted on 04/24/2012 6:46:17 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: mnehring

“Disturbing the Peace. The most over-used and abused charge.”

That, and obstruction of justice (investigation), for declining to produce a drivers’ license. Funny how necessary that little plastic laminated card is, EXCEPT WHEN IT IS TIME TO VOTE/s;)


47 posted on 04/24/2012 8:30:16 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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That is true, however, Federal law prohibits carrying in those areas UNLESS the individual has a state license, aka CPL, then the firearms must be openly carried.......

True for within a thousand feet of a school, but I have never heard of the others. Also, the firearms near a school may be concealed if the state/local license allows it.

48 posted on 04/24/2012 8:51:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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Thanks cripplecreek.


49 posted on 04/24/2012 8:52:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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There was an incident recently where a guy went into a school to vote and he was openly carrying a sidearm. It was discussed extensively here.

Here's an article on the incident:

Fenton

Open carry in schools

50 posted on 04/25/2012 3:30:44 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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