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University of Florida Eliminates Computer Science Department
Forbes ^ | April 22, 2012 | Steven Salzberg

Posted on 04/24/2012 12:47:46 PM PDT by C19fan

Wow, no one saw this coming. The University of Florida announced this past week that it was dropping its computer science department, which will allow it to save about $1.7 million $1.4 million. The school is eliminating all funding for teaching assistants in computer science, cutting the graduate and research programs entirely, and moving the tattered remnants into other departments.

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Here are useless majors one can take at UF:

American Indian and Indigenous Studies Dance, Bachelor of Arts Family, Youth and Community Sciences Film and Media Studies Golf and Sports Turf Management Sustainability and the Built Environment Sustainability Studies Women's Studies

Minors:

African-American Studies Landscape Architecture

UF has a Multicultural & Diversity Affairs department.

UF could of not saved the same amount by cutting these useless majors and administrators instead choose one of the few fields where students can actually get a decent job.

1 posted on 04/24/2012 12:47:51 PM PDT by C19fan
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UF could of not saved the same amount

Huh?

2 posted on 04/24/2012 12:49:33 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: C19fan

Silly computers, who needs them?


3 posted on 04/24/2012 12:49:59 PM PDT by Third Person
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To: C19fan

Gotta have choices of majors for the football and basketball teams, ya know.


4 posted on 04/24/2012 12:51:53 PM PDT by crosshairs (As long as there is evil, "Coexist" is impossible.)
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To: C19fan
"Sports Turf Management Sustainability"

That's where Carl Spackler got his doctorate.

5 posted on 04/24/2012 12:53:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: C19fan

Computers???? This is what the marketplace is DEMANDING:

1. “The Phallus”
Occidental College. A seminar in critical theory and social justice, this class examines Sigmund Freud, phallologocentrism and the lesbian phallus.

2. “Queer Musicology”
UCLA. This course welcomes students from all disciplines to study what it calls an “unruly discourse” on the subject, understood through the works of Cole Porter, Pussy Tourette and John Cage.

3. “Taking Marx Seriously”
Amherst College. This advanced seminar for 15 students examines whether Karl Marx still matters despite the countless interpretations and applications of his ideas, or whether the world has entered a post-Marxist era.

4. “Adultery Novel”
University of Pennsylvania. Falling in the newly named “gender, culture and society” major, this course examines novels and films of adultery such as “Madame Bovary” and “The Graduate” through Marxist, Freudian and feminist lenses.

5. “Blackness”
Occidental College. Critical race theory and the idea of “post-blackness” are among the topics covered in this seminar course examining racial identity. A course on whiteness is a prerequisite.

6. “Border Crossings, Borderlands: Transnational Feminist Perspectives on Immigration”
University of Washington. This women studies department offering takes a new look at recent immigration debates in the U.S., integrating questions of race and gender while also looking at the role of the war on terror.

7. “Whiteness: The Other Side of Racism”
Mount Holyoke College. The educational studies department offers this first-year, writing-intensive seminar asking whether whiteness is “an identity, an ideology, a racialized social system,” and how it relates to racism.

8. “Native American Feminisms”
University of Michigan. The women’s studies and American culture departments offer this course on contemporary Native American feminism, including its development and its relation to struggles for land.

9. “’Mail Order Brides?’ Understanding the Philippines in Southeast Asian Context”
Johns Hopkins University. This history course — cross-listed with anthropology, political science and studies of women, gender and sexuality — is limited to 35 students and asks for an anthropology course as a prerequisite.

10. “Cyberfeminism”
Cornell University. Cornell’s art history department offers this seminar looking at art produced under the influence of feminism, post-feminism and the Internet.

11. “American Dreams/American Realities”
Duke University. Part of Duke’s Hart Leadership Program that prepares students for public service, this history course looks at American myths, from “city on the hill” to “foreign devil,” in shaping American history.

12. “Nonviolent Responses to Terrorism”
Swarthmore College. Swarthmore’s “peace and conflict studies” program offers this course that “will deconstruct ‘terrorism’ “ and “study the dynamics of cultural marginalization” while seeking alternatives to violence.


6 posted on 04/24/2012 12:53:33 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name (NE)
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To: C19fan

What is wrong with Landscape Architecture? It is not a crip course.


7 posted on 04/24/2012 12:55:52 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: C19fan

What a stupid choice. It would be better to drop women’s studies, minority studies, black studies, gender studies......good grief these people are idiots.


8 posted on 04/24/2012 12:57:11 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: C19fan

There’s more to the story than meets the eye:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danbigman/2012/04/23/university-of-florida-responds-to-post-about-plans-for-computer-science-department/


9 posted on 04/24/2012 12:58:36 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: C19fan

Sooooooo Basket weaving 101 is what the student loans zer0 will mandate for free will pay for


10 posted on 04/24/2012 1:01:52 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I wonder what’s going to happen to all the CS majors at that college.

I’m in CS at SFA and i think I can only transfer 60 hours to another school. I’d lose over a year of classes.

The coursework is pretty difficult and some of my classes have maybe 6 kids.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 1:08:55 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: C19fan; All

READ THIS :

http://www.flanews.com/?p=14974

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Forbes Got UF Story Wrong Says Scott
April 24th, 2012 by Mike Vasilinda

Several national news outlets have printed that the University of Florida is cutting its computer science program to the bone while increasing athletic funding.

Athletic funding is going up, but is funded with private donation, and the computer science program is losing graduate teaching assistants, but students, according to the governor, will actually end up with the same number of classes and better teachers in the classroom

“My understanding of that is that they were saving the money by doing the right thing and that is they were having professors teach more classes. The savings was with teaching assistants” says Scott.


12 posted on 04/24/2012 1:08:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: C19fan

I wonder what’s going to happen to all the CS majors at that college.

I’m in CS at SFA and i think I can only transfer 60 hours to another school. I’d lose over a year of classes.

The coursework is pretty difficult and some of my classes have maybe 6 kids.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 1:09:05 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: samtheman
There’s more to the story than meets the eye:

Great catch Sam.

The weinies are just bitching because their precious tenure system is being tweaked and some fats cats will have to get off their fat asses and teach some unwashed undergrads.

Typical libs screaming about "budget cuts".

14 posted on 04/24/2012 1:09:50 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: C19fan

Sheesh.. dumb move. Oh well, my alma mater, University of Central Florida (UCF), has a dandy top notch Computer Science Dept.


15 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:32 PM PDT by Craigon
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To: svcw

I lump all those into the general category of “grievance studies”.

BTW, you should have seen the heads of my libinlaws explode when I used the term... heheh.


16 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:39 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

UF is recognized around the world for its turf management program. With the number of golf courses in Florida, it’s no surprise they’re considered the #1 Florida college.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:39 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: samtheman; C19fan
A Forbes article by contributing writer Steven Salzberg falsely claims that the University of Florida is eliminating the Computer Science Department....The plan calls for no lay-offs of tenure-track faculty. Faculty lay-offs are expected, however, if across-the-board cuts are made in the College of Engineering.

Huh? "The article is false! We're not threatening eliminating CS! We're threatening across the board cuts all across the Engineering School if they don't cut the number of TA's in CS!"

You money or yer life!

18 posted on 04/24/2012 1:12:15 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: C19fan

Maybe the vast majority of UF freshmen are too intellectually challenged to work with computers.


19 posted on 04/24/2012 1:12:27 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: USS Alaska
Some of these profs are being sent to a different department. Others are being pulled off of research to teach.

Basically, it is shutting down the program the way it is currently set up. How many profs will stay?

The real question is why? I think that you will see more and more science and engineering cut to keep costs low and the football program funded.

20 posted on 04/24/2012 1:17:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Perdogg
What is wrong with Landscape Architecture? It is not a crip course.

Isn't that what the illegals do in this country?
21 posted on 04/24/2012 1:18:07 PM PDT by crosshairs (As long as there is evil, "Coexist" is impossible.)
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To: C19fan
Microsoft, Bill Gates, and other tech companies now have another excuse as to why they absolutely need to import tech people from Asia, where they turn out hundreds of computer people every year like football factory Florida and other Southeastern Conference schools turn out football players.

Sad. When all those highly-recruited Florida football players are in their thirties and looking for work in the tech field, they will be shocked to see a lot of imported nerd-appearing young people holding all the tech jobs. Sad.

Many of these 30something used up football players will turn bitter and wonder why they played stupid football and why no body in authority prepared them for the real world of work when they got into their 30s.

These forgotten Florida football stars will wonder why they ended up as security guards during the main part of their lives. Sad.

Yes. I have the feeling that prominent tech people like Bill Gates are happy to hear that Florida is shutting down its computer science department so that he can go before Congress and tell Congress that he just can't find good help in the United States, and so he must go overseas, especially to Asia, where they have more computer science graduates than they can find jobs for. Sad.

I hear Bill Gates is going to lead a group of tech leaders to try to save the Florida computer science department, and these leaders will contribute a lot of money to do so.

Yeah, right.

22 posted on 04/24/2012 1:19:09 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: C19fan

Must be the football coach is hurting for recruitment goodies.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 1:19:35 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: crosshairs

No. It is part of A/E civil design. I have worked on several projects with one. It’s not rocket science, but it should not be lumped in with Women’s studies.


24 posted on 04/24/2012 1:20:52 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Paladin2
Maybe the vast majority of UF freshmen are too intellectually challenged to work with computers.

Well except in Cam Newton's case, he just stole them.

25 posted on 04/24/2012 1:22:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: C19fan

Wow, no one saw this coming. The University of Florida announced this past week that it was dropping its computer science department, which will allow it to save about $1.7 million $1.4 million.

The School could have eliminated the entire athletics dept. and had plenty of money left over to not only keep but upgrade the computer science dept.

But you know,Athletics/Sports are so important.NOT.


26 posted on 04/24/2012 1:24:58 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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PR stunt.

According to the article, the state has cut university funding by 30% over six years.

Want to create some funding drama?

“Slash” the C.S. department.

Notice that ZERO C.S. faculty have been fired - just “re-assigned.”

And the funding comparison to UF’s athletic department is completely bogus and malicious.

The A.D. is completely self-supporting.

Half the money earned by the football program is used to subsidize other sports programs that don't make a profit.

And the “shortage” of engineers and computer techs?

Tell that to the thousands of white, middle aged programmers here in Seattle who have been replaced by 25 year old H1-B’s from India and China who have USA work visas.

27 posted on 04/24/2012 1:24:58 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: dfwgator
"All charges against Newton were dropped after he completed a court-approved pre-trial diversion program. "I believe that a person should not be thought of as a bad person because of some senseless mistake that they made," said Newton in 2010. "I think every person should have a second chance. If they blow that second chance, so be it for them.""

Interesting....(Another NFL thugee, who'da guessed?)

28 posted on 04/24/2012 1:25:32 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MrB

BRILLIANT!!!! I am so going to steal that (if it’s ok?).


29 posted on 04/24/2012 1:27:26 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: C19fan

The other side of the story, Forbes is full of it.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2012/apr/24/forbes-blog/university-florida-eliminates-computer-science-dep/


30 posted on 04/24/2012 1:28:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: USS Alaska; sam_paine; C19fan
Typical libs screaming about "budget cuts".
That's what it seems like to me.
31 posted on 04/24/2012 1:30:18 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: dfwgator
"Meanwhile, UF is attempting to save $1.4 million by overhauling one of its engineering departments. But the department, Computer & Information Science and Engineering, isn’t being eliminated. Instead, UF is considering merging it with another department, Electrical and Computer Engineering. No one's major would change, and course offerings would remain the same."
32 posted on 04/24/2012 1:31:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: crosshairs; Perdogg

Sorta funny. “landscape architecture”, as gardener.
It is not an easy road, I know two people who have those degrees and and their work is really interesting, from design of amusement park grounds to back yard gardens.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 1:31:15 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: MrB

“grievance studies”

Good one.


34 posted on 04/24/2012 1:31:59 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: C19fan

I was originally CS at UF, but wisely, I switched to Finance.


35 posted on 04/24/2012 1:32:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: C19fan

Turf Management actually makes sense here in Florida, the others not so much.


36 posted on 04/24/2012 1:33:09 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: svcw

Feel free.
The implications of those two words would fill a whole essay, now wouldn’t it?


37 posted on 04/24/2012 1:34:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

OTOH, can UF compete with UCF and USF in Computer Science? How many choose either one of those over going to Gainesville? Should every school try to compete on all levels? And how hopelessly out of place would those nerds be in the swamp anyway? UF is the party school. If the entire university system was abandoning CompSci it would be an issue, this one might actually make sense if one knew the grand plan.


38 posted on 04/24/2012 1:39:03 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: Obama sez: "Nice little Supreme Court you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.")
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To: svcw
What a stupid choice. It would be better to drop women’s studies, minority studies, black studies, gender studies......good grief these people are idiots.

They are Gators, and they call their stadium The Swamp for a reason-- they are swamp people.

But seriously, it's OK if they choose not to participate in the 21st century-- their CompSci program didn't compare in the rankings to that of their hated rival, FSU, anyway.

39 posted on 04/24/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (I won't vote for Romney, period. Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil.)
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To: Perdogg
What is wrong with Landscape Architecture? It is not a crip course.

p'raps not but I'm betting it's very tilted towards urban this and that which is all politically correct globally approved bullsh!t; for the simple reason that most LA's work for a government. I said "most", not all.

40 posted on 04/24/2012 1:43:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: mikeus_maximus

Times are tough all over...
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/24/2765289/um-medical-school-cutbacks-coming.html


41 posted on 04/24/2012 1:43:49 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin: More miles per sound bite than the closest competitor...)
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To: C19fan

42 posted on 04/24/2012 1:52:03 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Ainast
Good to see that you keep that tinfoil helmet readily accessible !

;-)

43 posted on 04/24/2012 1:58:33 PM PDT by tomkat ( let US NEWT the 'rat bastards !)
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To: C19fan
There's a petition at http://www.change.org/petitions/dean-abernathy-college-of-engineering-university-of-florida-do-not-destroy-the-cise-department that one can sign about this absurd travesty.

There's also a page at http://saveufcise.wordpress.com/write-letters/ for those who want to write to the university and to the Florida government about this.

44 posted on 04/24/2012 1:58:33 PM PDT by snowsislander (Gingrich 2012.)
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To: mkjessup
Reminds me...

A couple of weeks ago at my daughters wedding I saw my younger sister for the first time in a couple of months.

I said...
Hair looks nice. Is it yours???

45 posted on 04/24/2012 2:02:44 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin: More miles per sound bite than the closest competitor...)
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To: C19fan
UF could of not saved the same amount by cutting these useless majors and administrators instead choose one of the few fields where students can actually get a decent job.

There's one thing you need to understand: not that many women and minorities major in CS. By eliminating CS, you can better meet UF's diversity goals.

46 posted on 04/24/2012 2:04:44 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: mkjessup

they can play with my harddrive.


47 posted on 04/24/2012 2:06:28 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Craigon

The chair of the CS department at BSU is from UCF. Plus another one of the associate professors...


48 posted on 04/24/2012 2:07:14 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: C19fan

Useless but profitable majors.


49 posted on 04/24/2012 2:09:57 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: mkjessup

Damn, I miss my Alma Mater.


50 posted on 04/24/2012 2:14:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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