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Beating of Alabama man not seen as hate crime, despite claim 'Trayvon' invoked
foxnews.com ^ | 04/24/2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 04/24/2012 1:07:41 PM PDT by massmike

A racially charged beating of a white Alabama man by a throng of African-Americans is not being investigated as a hate crime, despite one witness' claim that she heard an assailant exclaim: "Now that's justice for Trayvon."

Matthew Owens, of Mobile, Ala., was assaulted with baseball bats, paint cans and other weapons at about 8:30 p.m. Saturday after telling a group of children to stop playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive, according to Ashley Rains, public information officer for the Mobile Police Department.

After the children left the area, a group of adults armed with weapons returned and confronted Owens, 40, in his front yard, where he was assaulted. Owens' sister, Ashley Parker, told WKRG she witnessed the attack and that there were as many as 20 assailants. Parker said she overheard one of them say, "Now that's justice for Trayvon."

Asked if the incident was being investigated as a hate crime, Rains replied: "No, it's not. It's being investigated as an assault."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: blackonwhitecrime; chimpout; hatecrime; justicefortrayvon; justicefortrayvoninc; matthewowens; odinga; trayvonmob; trayvonrevenge
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1 posted on 04/24/2012 1:07:48 PM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

Rule Number One: Anything that happens to a white person can never be considered a hate crime.


2 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:44 PM PDT by kempster (HIPPO)
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To: massmike

Of course not.... It was self inflicted.....


3 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:53 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: maggief; hoosiermama

As the story develops..


4 posted on 04/24/2012 1:11:53 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: massmike

The sad thing about this is it WILL bring about “revenge” from some real live racists. I know we’re all getting enough of this crap but we have to keep our heads about it. We just need to be prepared in case it happens to us. Prepared like Zimmerman was.

I do wonder how many neighbors watched and did nothing.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 1:12:23 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: massmike
I would say that whenever a gang of 20 of one race assaults a person of another, it's prima facie evidence of a hate crime.

Whether we should have hate crimes at all, or just very heavy gang enhancers to the basic charge of aggravated assault is another topic. But, a 20 on 1 beatdown isn't just a neighborhood disagreement out of hand.

6 posted on 04/24/2012 1:12:45 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: kempster
Rule Number One: Anything that happens to a white person can never be considered a hate crime.

That's because we hate them so much.

7 posted on 04/24/2012 1:13:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? You're really that dense? Really?)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I heard that they were shouting

“Random beatdown! Random beatdown!”


8 posted on 04/24/2012 1:13:52 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: massmike

Hate crimes work in one direction only.


9 posted on 04/24/2012 1:14:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: massmike

And please explain exactly why this is suprising to anyone, either black or white?


10 posted on 04/24/2012 1:14:43 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Hey Obama! All you have done is awaken a sleeping giant and filled us with a terrible resolve!!)
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To: massmike

Racist mob puts Alabama man in hospital

Matthew Owens remains in critical condition following a beat-down by a mob of 20 adults and children in Mobile. Racist slurs were used, and reference made to the Trayvon Martin case.

Tuesday, April 24, 2012 By Martin Barillas

http://www.speroforum.com/a/JRYYFJHYKM27/71529-Racist-mob-puts-Alabama-man-in-hospital

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A racially-motivated mob beat a Mobile, Alabama, man so severely on the evening of April 21 that he is now in critical condition at an area hospital. Mobile police report that Matthew Owens spoke to some neighborhood children playing basketball in the middle of the street at 8:30 PM on Delmar Drive in Mobile. After the children left, a mob consisting mostly of adults returned, armed with chairs, pipes and paint cans.

According to local media, Owen’s sister Ashley Parker saw the mob attack her brother. “It was the scariest thing I have ever witnessed,” said Parker. The victim’s sister described the mob as consisting of approximately 20 African-American adults who attacked Owens on the front porch of his house. Some of the assailants used brass knuckles in the beat-down, and “anything else they could get their hands on,” said Parker. Police say “multiple people” are involved. Owens is suffering from severe trauma to his head.

Another witness to the vicious beating, who wishes to remain anonymous, described the onset of the assault on Owens. “I just kept hearing him screaming, ‘Man, I’m sorry, I’m sorry, man don’t do this,’ “ he recalled. According to the anonymous witness, when he heard his friend Owens at the door, he thought it was a joke. “Then I saw about 10 to 15 people from little kids and women with dresses to adult men, just flooding onto the property, surrounding the car, hollering and screaming,” he said. “And then I heard Matthew saying, ‘ I’m sorry, man, I’m sorry. I’m sorry.’ And then, the next thing, before I could get to the door, because we have it all deadbolted and everything, and before I could get it open, I heard all the beating and banging.”

Tensions were already high in the Delmar Drive neighborhood because of disputes over children and youths using portable goals for playing basketball in the street. This is a practice that has been banned elsewhere in the U.S. The beating has left neighbors fearful of retribution. Owen’s friend who witnessed the beating said, “Oh, my God. ..He was laying on the ground full of blood. I mean, it was horrible. His head, everything. Blood was pouring from his head, both sides. And his whole body was drenched in blood.”

Reflecting the current climate of inter-ethnic tension in the United States, Parker alleged that one member of the mob said before walking away “Now that’s justice for Trayvon.” Trayvon Martin is the unarmed teenager police allege was shot and killed February 26 by George Zimmerman, who has been variously described in the media as ‘white’ or ‘Hispanic,’ in Samford, Florida. The Florida killing sparked multitudinous marches and flaming rhetoric from African-American political leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. President Barack Obama entered the fray when, expressing sorrow for the teen’s death, said of Trayvon Martin “He could have been my son.”

No suspects have been apprehended following the Mobile incident.


11 posted on 04/24/2012 1:16:01 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: massmike

Holder Admits No Equality Under Hate Crime Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOABBn5Tnm0


12 posted on 04/24/2012 1:16:34 PM PDT by massmike (Massachusetts: If they had just kept hanging witches a bit longer...........)
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To: Terry Mross
"it WILL bring about 'revenge' from some real live racists"
"I do wonder how many neighbors watched and did nothing"

Neighbors who did nothing are not 1/10 the problem as are people like you who call rational people racist.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 1:18:07 PM PDT by I see my hands (If you say what you think then no one will like you.)
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To: robowombat

I really can see burnings and drive by shootings and....the authorities had better do something about this.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 1:18:56 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: massmike
Does anyone know anything about this area. From the map it looks to be close to US 90. I think that people who worked at the now closed Air Material Center at Brookley AFB used to live here in large numbers. Brookley was closed by 1970 so I am curious as to what sort of area this is. From checking real estate listing it appears to be an area of small free standing houses, many look well maintained.
15 posted on 04/24/2012 1:20:32 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: massmike

Well, whites in that neighborhood have learned not to complain about black activities.


16 posted on 04/24/2012 1:23:21 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: massmike

I’m surprised it’s not being considered an unsuccessful suicide attempt. Why, to even insunate a group of Black folk attacking and beating a White man is just ‘crazy talk’.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 1:24:53 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: I see my hands

I didn’t call anyone a racist. And I certainly didn’t call any rational people racist. I’m talking about people like the guy in Oklahoma.

If you think someone who loses it and goes out and shoots a black man just for being black is rational, you’re the problem.


18 posted on 04/24/2012 1:27:33 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: massmike

If it wasn’t a hate crime, what was the motivation of 20 black people in beating him up?

And they wonder why Trayvon Martin got shot.


19 posted on 04/24/2012 1:28:02 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: massmike

It was a lynching. You get people ganging up on you like that and trying to kill you then it is a lynching. When do a gang of white people do this kind of wolf pack beat down? I can’t think of any in recent years but the black on white version is frequent though under reported by the main stream media


20 posted on 04/24/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: robowombat

Another suggestion: Use your cell phone to take photos and videos of any assaults you witness.

These animals need to be caught, arrested, tried and executed. See, I can sound just like the Black Panthers. And how could they criticize my plan because it just mimics theirs....well except for the part where I put a bounty on the head of each of the thugs who beat this man.


21 posted on 04/24/2012 1:29:15 PM PDT by Josa
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To: kempster

That’s from the Eric Holder rulebook, I assume.


22 posted on 04/24/2012 1:31:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: massmike

Which is why Holder’s boss has to be removed in November, and I don’t care who doesn’t like Romney.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 1:31:41 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: MrB

I heard it was “Group Hug! Group Hug!” and poor Owens was just overwhelmed by the love and kumbayah-ery, that he checked himself into the hospital. /s


24 posted on 04/24/2012 1:33:12 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (A Bounty on Zimmerman, Can Be A Bounty On ANYONE. No NBPP Mob Justice!)
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To: robowombat

It was a decent neighborhood of nice smaller homes until Holder’s people took it over. I have a friend that has lived there for about 30years and can’t find a buyer. There have been some serious violence there. A man was gunned down with a spray of automatic weapons fire a few years ago about three houses down from my friend.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 1:37:38 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: SE Mom

It’s pretty comical, actually (ignoring the seriousness of the story for a moment). I mean, people thought at first that Zimmerman may have used the word “coon” and they wanted to call it a hate crime. But in this case the evidence is overwhelming that it was about race, but it’s not a hate crime.

So, why did they assault him, anyway?


26 posted on 04/24/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: massmike

Duh, only white people (or white-hispanics) can hate.


27 posted on 04/24/2012 1:39:39 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Josa

I seem to remember some folks caught on video outside of a polling place, brandishing weapons and threatening people with racial epithets, and absolutely nothing being done about it.


28 posted on 04/24/2012 1:43:13 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: massmike

Of course this wasn’t a hate crime...and I’m Napoleon Bonaparte.

The more of this $hit that keeps happening, the more that racial tensions are going to rise. It is one thing (and bad enough) to give blacks a leg up in college admissions and job applications because of the treatment their forebearers received, but it is quite another to constantly have every white person labeled as a racist, and no black people when they nearly pummel a white guy to death, or stand in front of an election precinct with bats prohibiting white people from voting, etc., etc., etc. Hate exists on both sides, but when one is subjected to all of the blame, and the other is made to bear no responsibility, that’s just compressing the spring even further - and the rebound of that spring will be like nothing ever seen in this country if it isn’t managed the right way. If the one-way stuff doesn’t stop and then there are riots when Zimmerman is acquitted, EXPECT lots of resistance from the whites of this country.

Of course, that seems to be exactly what Fauxbama & Co. want - there’s simply no other explanation for the actions and lack of actions taken by this government in the last few years.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 1:43:47 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: cuban leaf

I think he dared to speak to some misbehaving black children.

A local girl was murdered in my town by a group of “Eric Holder’s People” a few years ago. They claimed they shot her because “she bucked.” In other words, when they tried to grab her pocket book she instinctively tried to hang onto it. Can you imagine the temerity of a crime victim thinking that they had a right to keep their own property?

And that’s why if you are approached by Eric Holder’s People you better be prepared to make that instant decision to shoot. Then you can be hounded like George Zimmerman.

As an aside, I read somewhere that the preliminary toxicology tests showed drugs in the system of “that sweet little angel, trayvon.”


30 posted on 04/24/2012 1:44:31 PM PDT by Josa
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To: Josa

freepers know the score.....Only thing I have heard about Trayvon’s possible drugs in bloodstream at autopsy is that no drugs were found. That may have been disinformation


31 posted on 04/24/2012 2:06:22 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: massmike
Outlaw government.

Its getting very close to the time when physical resistance will be necessary if we want to remain in any way free.

32 posted on 04/24/2012 2:09:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: massmike

Did you actually believe that it would?


33 posted on 04/24/2012 2:14:54 PM PDT by sport
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To: massmike

The new rule for white people. Shoot first, shoot often, reload and shoot again. Then when there are no thugs left standing, ask questions.

Do the blacks not realize that they have now given every white person reason to fear for their lives whenever a black person is approaching them?

If they keep behaving this way there’s going to be a huge race war, and there will be precious few blacks surviving it.

God Save America (Please)


34 posted on 04/24/2012 2:14:58 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Ancesthntr
"Of course, that seems to be exactly what Fauxbama & Co. want - there’s simply no other explanation for the actions and lack of actions taken by this government in the last few years."

I think you are correct. Obama wants incidents he can use to bring out the police and security forces and claim the mantle of putting down racism as part of his reelection strategy.

35 posted on 04/24/2012 2:21:49 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: John O
Man, your words are my thoughts exactly. I plan to call my brother that lives in a city like this. I want him to be careful taking the bus everyday.
36 posted on 04/24/2012 2:29:25 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: Terry Mross

Are you syaing that other blacks will seek revenge against these blacks? Because that is who real racists are.

And what is a neighbor supposed to do against 20 armed feral blacks besides get beaten or killed, arrested and charged with a hate crime, sued, and then have to worry about revenege from “real racists”?


37 posted on 04/24/2012 2:30:46 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: massmike; xzins; blue-duncan; wmfights

We need to just eliminate all “hate crime” legislation. All it does is inject politics into the justice system.


38 posted on 04/24/2012 2:33:15 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: dennisw

That is not the case. No information has been released.


39 posted on 04/24/2012 2:34:17 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Imagine if a crowd of 20 whites came after a black guy on his own property and beat him nearly to death. Think THAT would be a hate crime?


40 posted on 04/24/2012 2:39:09 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: John O
The new rule for white people. Shoot first, shoot often, reload and shoot again. Then when there are no thugs left standing, ask questions.

...or just get out of there, because even if it is a justified shooting, you will be railroaded like Zimmerman.

This will not end well for anyone.

41 posted on 04/24/2012 2:41:33 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: robowombat
"...the mob as consisting of approximately 20 African-American adults who attacked Owens on the front porch of his house."

Had this been my house I doubt half that number would even had made it to the porch. Those unlucky ones in the first wave would be dead or at least suffering from acute lead poisoning while the rest of the crew would be scattering like cats after witnessing their comrades dropping like sacks of potatoes.

"That white boy gotta lotta guns yo!"

"So does his wife and daughter, yo!"
42 posted on 04/24/2012 2:45:06 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: John O

“Do the blacks not realize that they have now given every white person reason to fear for their lives whenever a black person is approaching them?”

Didn’t Obama say something to that effect during the campaign about his WHITE grandmother..was he talking about the past or “priming the pump” for the future?


43 posted on 04/24/2012 2:49:27 PM PDT by BilLies (Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , etc., hate your Traditional American guts!)
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To: chris37

Thanks.... did a quick google and google news search and nothing on a Treyvon toxicology (drugs) report from the autopsy so.....still DEVELOPING and has not come in yet


44 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:00 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: robowombat

“20 African-American adults who attacked Owens on the front porch of his house.”

Owens was on his own porch.


45 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:14 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Envisioning
...or just get out of there, because even if it is a justified shooting, you will be railroaded like Zimmerman.

I no longer care. If enough George Zimmermans happen, they will get the message.

46 posted on 04/24/2012 2:53:50 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: Lazamataz
I no longer care. If enough George Zimmermans happen, they will get the message.

You really think they will? I don't.

I will not take a beat-down for being white and I will not go to jail for being right.

47 posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:05 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: P-Marlowe
We need to just eliminate all “hate crime” legislation. All it does is inject politics into the justice system.

Exactly - that's why they were created.

I'd like to see these laws challenged on 14th Amendment grounds, since it's obviously that they're not being applied equally.

48 posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:27 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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(Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)

Oh yea, sorry you can't hit it anymore. LOL!

49 posted on 04/24/2012 3:04:13 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: chris37

I like that....feral.

I guess the only thing you could do is fire a round off in the air and hope like hell they run. Otherwise are we supposed to look out the window and watch someone get beaten to death? I know in Texas if someone is breaking into your neighbor’s house you can use deadly force. It was done a few years ago and the old man who killed two Mexicans was not charged. So I’m sure you could use deadly force if your neighbor was being killed. Just make sure you got plenty of ammo and be prepared to stand 24 hour guard as long as you live there. Sad situation, huh.


50 posted on 04/24/2012 3:13:45 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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