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"Scandal:" One of Mitt Romney's Spokesmen is Gay
Townhall.com ^ | April 24, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

Outrage!  Or something!  Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has "stepped on a landmine" by having the temerity to appoint -- I hope you're sitting down -- an openly gay national security spokesman, according to one leader of a social conservative group.  Once you've pried yourself from the floor, feel free to persuse some choice excerpts from this person's incensed column:
 

Gov. Mitt Romney stepped on a landmine by appointing Richard Grenell, an out, loud and proud homosexual, to be his spokesman on national security and foreign policy issues. Grenell has for years been an outspoken advocate for homosexual marriage. In fact, word is that he left the Bush administration because President Bush would not formally acknowledge his homosexual partner.


"Word is" that unattributed rumors can be passed off as facts in certain quarters.
 

Since, as the saying goes in D.C., personnel is policy, this means Gov. Romney has some ‘splaining to do. This clearly is a deliberate and intentional act on his part, since he was well aware of Mr. Grenell’s sexual proclivities and knew it would be problematic for social conservatives. It’s certainly not possible that there are no other potential spokesmen available, men who are experts in foreign policy and who at the same time honor the institution of natural marriage in their personal lives.


So the mere employment of a gay or lesbian person -- regardless of his or her political leanings, or level of expertise -- is "problematic" for "social conservatives?"  Is heterosexuality now a prerequisite to work on behalf of a Republican presidential candidate?  Quite a standard, I must say.  And the kicker:
 

Given the propensity for members of the homosexual community to engage in frequent and anonymous sexual encounters, the risk to national security of having a homosexual in a high-ranking position with access to secret information is obvious.


What's the "obvious" conclusion here, again?  It sounds like this gentleman is suggesting that because some homosexuals engage in "frequent and anonymous" sexual encounters -- as do some straight people -- all gay people with access to sensitive information are ipso facto national security risks.  Okay then.  Rather than punch holes in this, er, logic, I'll just encourage you to read Jen Rubin's take down of this nonsense here.  It seems Romney has repudiated this particular individual in the past over some previous inflammatory rhetoric, so perhaps the whole spat is personal.  In any case, here's an actual gay rights-related threat to the American ideal, upon which conservatives of all stripes should agree:
 

Religious liberty groups are blasting a proposed ordinance that would force churches in Hutchinson, Kan. to rent their facilities for gay weddings and gay parties. The Hutchinson City Council will consider adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the protected classes in the city’s human relations code. They are expected to vote on the changes next month. According to the Hutchinson Human Relations Commission, churches that rent out their buildings to the general public would not be allowed to discriminate “against a gay couple who want to rent the building for a party.”

Matthew Staver, chairman of the Liberty Counsel Action, told Fox News the proposed law is “un-American.” “It is a collision course between religious freedom and the LGBT agenda,” Staver said. “This proposed legislation will ultimately override the religious freedom that is protected under the First Amendment.” He argued that churches cannot be forced by the government to set aside their religious convictions and their mission. And, he warned, some churches could even be forced to rent their buildings for drag parties. “What we are ultimately going to see is churches forced to confront this law, forced to do things and allow their facilities to be used by people and for events that diametrically undercut the mission of the church,” he said.


Unlike the "controversy" discussed above, this story truly is outrageous.  According to the Constitution -- and recently reaffirmed 9-0 by SCOTUS -- churches and other religious institutions have the right to adhere to the tenets of their faith, especially within the walls of their own places of worship.  This proposal (in Kansas, of all places) would sacrifice Americans' sacred religious liberties on the altar of political correctness.  It's both flagrantly unconstitutional and totally wrong-headed.  Sadly, it's not unprecedented.  We've seen pastors persecuted by Canadian "human rights" tribunals for public criticisms of homosexuality, and an EU court ruled last month that churches that decline to carry out gay weddings in member states that have legalized the practice are guilty of discrimination.  Oh, but that sort of thing could never happen here, we're told, because we have a First Amendment.  Indeed we do, but we've just gotten through witnessing a presidential administration stomp all over said amendment, in furtherance of a tawdry political end.  So forgive me for questioning the hard Left's fealty to the United States Constitution. 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: gayvote; homosexualagenda; romney
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1 posted on 04/24/2012 3:02:57 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Pete Williams did a fine job for the Pentagon so who cares?


2 posted on 04/24/2012 3:06:22 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m listening to a very good version of The Divine Comedy. freepmail me if you want to know which one. In the very highest level of Purgatory just a few steps down from heaven is where Dante places those who are saved but had lust in life which they didn’t control. Among them are those whom Dante has speak about Sodom and Gomorrah. I thought that was interesting.


3 posted on 04/24/2012 3:08:53 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mikey_1962

I care. The Richard Grenall appointment is a clear signal of where pro-gay marriage Romney is going, has been forecast to go, and has said he won’t go because he has “changed”.

Romney is a liar.

That’s why I care.


4 posted on 04/24/2012 3:10:38 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Mikey_1962

Well, when you read Richard Grenell’s lips, just try not to think about where they have been.


5 posted on 04/24/2012 3:10:38 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Kaslin

Anyone thinking what I am thinking? That Romney actually wants to lose so all his radical ideas (those of the current administration) can continue to become policy? Romney is the dividing point, and he doesn’t need to be president.


6 posted on 04/24/2012 3:10:59 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: xzins

Excellent tagline sir! I may steal it . . .


7 posted on 04/24/2012 3:12:39 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Kaslin
Oh Oh Oh, the inhumanity of it all, an openly gay man?

now this is horrible why?

8 posted on 04/24/2012 3:13:41 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: Kaslin

Romney has the right to employ sexual perverts in any capacity he chooses.

But don’t say Romney is a conservative, because he ain’t.
And don’t say that I should vote for him, because he might be slightly less evil than Obama, because i won’t.


9 posted on 04/24/2012 3:14:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Psalm 144

With my blessing, FRiend!


10 posted on 04/24/2012 3:14:18 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Mikey_1962

I care. Fags should not lead our foreign and national security issues. So if China hits us with a missile, the proper response is glitter?


11 posted on 04/24/2012 3:14:42 PM PDT by max americana
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To: xzins

It matters for the same reason it matters who Obama surrounds himself with.

The way Mittites are trying to make it all OK are a perfect demonstration of what’s wrong with electing RINOs. People who sweep dirt under their own rugs have no room to point fingers as democrat filth.


12 posted on 04/24/2012 3:14:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

One of Mitt Romney’s Spokesmen is Gay
_______________________________________

But of course

Williard is the father of same sex marriage in America...


13 posted on 04/24/2012 3:15:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: cripplecreek
People who sweep dirt under their own rugs have no room to point fingers as democrat filth.

Excellent line, CC. Thanks.

14 posted on 04/24/2012 3:20:29 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Tennessee Nana

mitt is a liberal doosh. I will never vote for him.


15 posted on 04/24/2012 3:23:10 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: max americana

FYI, Richard Grenell was a former aide to John Bolton. And John Bolton was one of the best ambassadors to the U.N. we have had.


16 posted on 04/24/2012 3:23:31 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Kaslin

I’m OK with the appointment, but I draw the line on homosexual marriage and adoption. But I can’t imagine that his political view of homosexuality squares with his Mormon faith. To me, just more of an indication that the guy is a blank slate from a values perspective. It is hard for me to respect somebody like that.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 3:26:13 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Kaslin; All

18 posted on 04/24/2012 3:26:51 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne- "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Kaslin
Almost four hundred posts on this subject here:

Romney hires openly gay spokeman

19 posted on 04/24/2012 3:27:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Parmenio

Whoopee.


20 posted on 04/24/2012 3:27:50 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Parmenio
FYI, Richard Grenell was a former aide to John Bolton. And John Bolton was one of the best ambassadors to the U.N. we have had.

Bolton is also an open supporter of "gay marriage."

A perfect Romney Republican.

21 posted on 04/24/2012 3:28:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: Kaslin

Not really a shock.
Romney can have as many perverts working for him as he wants.
He is not a conservative and he is not going to beat Obama.
In the end it doesn’t matter........


22 posted on 04/24/2012 3:28:36 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: EternalVigilance

While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 3:30:55 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Mikey_1962
MARK FOLEY did a really great job helping the Republicans lose their political hind ends in the 2006 election.

Even though the public tolerates Democrat homosexuals (assuming most of them are probably homosexuals) they punish the Republicans for turning more of these people loose to run for office or make policy.

Sorry Mikey, your money is good, their money is good, even their free will unpaid help is good, BUT we simply can no longer carry their baggage!

This particular personnel action proves that ROMNEY has no sense when it comes to politics outside of the closed little group of clowns in the GOP establishment!

24 posted on 04/24/2012 3:30:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: EternalVigilance

Bolton and his gay buddies can be easily replaced.


25 posted on 04/24/2012 3:32:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DannyTN
I wouldn't be surprised in the least to find out that Romney and Obama know many of the same gays.

The crowd who hang out at public restrooms are into really neat hair ~

26 posted on 04/24/2012 3:34:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SECURE AMERICA
He is not a conservative and he is not going to beat Obama. In the end it doesn’t matter........

Agreed. The GOP should avoid poker because they aren't bright enough to recognize that we aren't bluffing. Romney's primary wins to date have come in Obama strongholds and they aren't going to vote for him in November.
27 posted on 04/24/2012 3:35:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mikey_1962

I care.


28 posted on 04/24/2012 3:36:55 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: RatRipper

“But I can’t imagine that his political view of homosexuality squares with his Mormon faith. To me, just more of an indication that the guy is a blank slate from a values perspective.”

There is a pattern here. Willard promotes abortion and formal homosexual copulatory arrangements as public policy, but not within amongst his own co-religionists. He encourages fecundity and stability narrowly within his own group, and sterile, self destructive behavior amongst ALL others.

Willard is not hypocritical, nor schizophrenic, nor empty. He is a malefactor, and works to as certain a purpose as did his moral and intellectual equivalent, Margaret Sanger.


29 posted on 04/24/2012 3:37:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: achilles2000

The snide condescending tone of the article doesn’t do Romney any favors either. We get enough of that crap from the idiot himself.


30 posted on 04/24/2012 3:47:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Parmenio
While I oppose gay marriage, there are some things that are more important, like protecting this nation from its foreign enemies and saving it from socialism. Gay marriage is far down the list.

Well, you wouldn't think so if you realized that homosexual practices are the sorts of things for which God turns nations over to their enemies, to those who destroy them economically and physically.

Or, to put it in another way, that in the natural course of things that it is the destruction of families and personal morals that makes nations collapse economically, and makes them easy targets for external enemies.

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever."

-- Thomas Jefferson

Without its moral basis, this republic cannot stand.

"We are firmly convinced, and we act on that conviction, that with nations as with individuals our interests soundly calculated will ever be found inseparable from our moral duties..."

-- Thomas Jefferson

"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time...They therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure and which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments."

-- Charles Carroll, U.S. Senator and signer of the Declaration of Independence

"[D]emocracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few."

-- John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, 1763

“Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens.”

-- George Washington

"Peace, prosperity, liberty and morals have an intimate connection."

-- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1813


31 posted on 04/24/2012 3:52:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: DannyTN
But don’t say Romney is a conservative, because he ain’t. And don’t say that I should vote for him, because he might be slightly less evil than Obama, because i won’t.

Agreed in all respects. Romney is not a conservative or even a moderate. He's a big government liberal at a time when that could be as fatal to a free country as Obama himself, although perhaps with a slower death. I will not vote for Romney in November either (I reserve the right to vote for him in 2016 if he governs as the conservative he is pretending to be, but I would be extremely surprised if he could pull that off). However, I will vote in the House and Senate elections and the state and local election. Whether we get stuck with Obama or Romney in our White House, we cannot afford to have anything but the most conservative Congress attainable. We need the legislative branch to restrain either one of those big government liberals.

32 posted on 04/24/2012 3:52:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Pollster1

“Whether we get stuck with Obama or Romney in our White House, we cannot afford to have anything but the most conservative Congress attainable.”

Wholehearted agreement here.


33 posted on 04/24/2012 3:56:54 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Kaslin

Guy Benson is Townhall.com’s Political Editor.

So, Townhall is pro-homosexual now?


34 posted on 04/24/2012 3:57:28 PM PDT by donna (...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way... -Mitt Romney)
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To: Parmenio; EternalVigilance
Gay marriage is far down the list.

Yeah. It's only an existential threat to the family and 7000 years of civilization.

After the movement gays get through queering marriage, what are we going to do for "families"? There will be no "families", or nothing we can recognize as such. Which is their entire purpose -- they've said so.

States and civilizations blithely break their bonds with their patrimonies at their mortal peril. That's because people who "rise above" the disciplines of civilization, are no longer capable of sustaining it in any meaningful way.

35 posted on 04/24/2012 3:58:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kaslin
RiNO scoffs at social conservatives. "I'm way cooler than them." So what else is new?
36 posted on 04/24/2012 4:00:20 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: donna

Townhall seems to be pro-Romney, at any rate.

After reading this, I wondered whether Guy Benson was gay, but I can’t find anything on that.

He has worked with Hugh Hewitt, who is strongly pro-Romney, and for Breitbart’s Big this and that. Breitbart was mostly very conservative, but he was very supportive of gay activism, along with Ann Coulter. It really makes you wonder.


37 posted on 04/24/2012 4:02:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ballygrl
now this is horrible why?

Because movement homosexuals and their politics are a curse on the land. Did you read the rest of the article?

38 posted on 04/24/2012 4:02:32 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: shelterguy
mitt is a liberal doosh. I will never vote for him.

But he isn't a socialist doosh. After 4 more years of Obama, radicals will rule.

Mitt doesn't really consider The Constitution to be a pain in the *ss like the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue does.

39 posted on 04/24/2012 4:02:49 PM PDT by oyez ( Yomomacare going done once, going down twice, going---..)
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To: donna
Guy Benson is Townhall.com’s Political Editor. So, Townhall is pro-homosexual now?

Sure looks like it, doesn't it?

Wonder if Guy has something to tell us?

40 posted on 04/24/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

“States and civilizations blithely break their bonds with their patrimonies at their mortal peril. That’s because people who “rise above” the disciplines of civilization, are no longer capable of sustaining it in any meaningful way.”

And here we are. It is amazing that those who cannot see this are so debauched they cannot even grasp why we refuse to join them.


41 posted on 04/24/2012 4:06:36 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yes I did read the article.

I guess Log Cabin Republicans are horrible too? not every gay person is a radical leftist, there are many that love this Country and believe in Capitalism just like you and me.

42 posted on 04/24/2012 4:09:18 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: Ballygrl
As has been stated, Romney can employ anyone he likes, BUT this does show his true colors! Personally I am much more alarmed by the number of people who question now this is horrible why?
43 posted on 04/24/2012 4:10:13 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Well, isn’t that fabouloush, mary?


44 posted on 04/24/2012 4:11:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: muawiyah
Bolton and his gay buddies can be easily replaced.

When you see guys clustering like that, especially gays, you're justified in suspecting ulterior agenda and shunning the whole bunch. Which the entire GOP needs to do -- a purge of the homosexuals infesting the Party. They seem to be overrepresented ..... which means they're deliberately climbing aboard, like shiprats, and running cabals behind the scenes to expel non-gay-friendly people from the GOP. Well, guess what, girls -- turn about is fair play.

45 posted on 04/24/2012 4:13:26 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Psalm 144

Absolutely.........you are right.


46 posted on 04/24/2012 4:13:42 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Parmenio

By virtue of their lifestyles and accompanying behavior, they demonstrate extremely POOR judgement. For that reason, I do not want them making any decisions that will effect me or mine OR my country. Sorry, reality is a beach.


47 posted on 04/24/2012 4:14:46 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mikey_1962

So do you make a swishing sound when you walk. Do you have lisp? Just askin’.


48 posted on 04/24/2012 4:15:46 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

Yet another bit of evidence that Romney is “Obama Lite.”


49 posted on 04/24/2012 4:18:56 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Ballygrl
I guess Log Cabin Republicans are horrible too? not every gay person is a radical leftist, there are many that love this Country and believe in Capitalism just like you and me.

As much trouble as the family is in -- and like capitalism it is a fons et origo of everything else, because that is where every person learns his basic lessons of life -- we can't afford places in politics for movement homosexuals who are on the record favoring destruction of the traditional family model by policy, just to "erase" the heteronormative influence and example of monogamous het marriage -- "breeder" marriage, they sneer.

Loggies, in the last analysis, self-identify as gay, gay, gay. Otherwise they wouldn't be Loggies.

50 posted on 04/24/2012 4:20:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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