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1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed (and the idiots will still vote for Obama)
boston globe ^ | 4/23/2012 | (No) Hope Yen, Associated Press

Posted on 04/24/2012 3:25:30 PM PDT by tobyhill

The college class of 2012 is in for a rude welcome to the world of work.

A weak labor market already has left half of young college graduates either jobless or underemployed in positions that don’t fully use their skills and knowledge.

Young adults with bachelor’s degrees are increasingly scraping by in lower-wage jobs — waiter or waitress, bartender, retail clerk or receptionist, for example — and that’s confounding their hopes a degree would pay off despite higher tuition and mounting student loans.

An analysis of government data conducted for The Associated Press lays bare the highly uneven prospects for holders of bachelor’s degrees.

Opportunities for college graduates vary widely.

While there’s strong demand in science, education and health fields, arts and humanities flounder. Median wages for those with bachelor’s degrees are down from 2000, hit by technological changes that are eliminating midlevel jobs such as bank tellers. Most future job openings are projected to be in lower-skilled positions such as home health aides, who can provide personalized attention as the U.S. population ages.

Taking underemployment into consideration, the job prospects for bachelor’s degree holders fell last year to the lowest level in more than a decade.

“I don’t even know what I’m looking for,’’ says Michael Bledsoe, who described months of fruitless job searches as he served customers at a Seattle coffeehouse. The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobless

1 posted on 04/24/2012 3:25:36 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

““I don’t even know what I’m looking for,’’ says Michael Bledsoe, who described months of fruitless job searches as he served customers at a Seattle coffeehouse.” The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.
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You just found it, Michael. It’s called hopeychangey.


2 posted on 04/24/2012 3:29:43 PM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

That “Creative Writing” degree is going to take him far.


3 posted on 04/24/2012 3:33:16 PM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: max americana

How’s the degree in ‘peace studies’ workin’ out for ya, boy?

*sneer*


4 posted on 04/24/2012 3:34:16 PM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: tobyhill

They are hoping to get welfare and a free iPad..those idiots will continue to vote for Obama as long as he promises them free treats


5 posted on 04/24/2012 3:37:51 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: tobyhill

A creative writing degree? WTF was this idiot thinking? Sadly, it seems to be the rule, rather than the exception from where I sit. I’m the corporate recruiter for a major automotive manufacturer. I get so many resumes from lunkheads with bullshyte degrees in “World Music Theory”, “Eastern Philosophy”, or my favorite - “Liberal Arts”.

Morons. I need Engineers, Technicians, Buyers, Programmers. Tangible, practical, applicable tradesmen (and women). Not these nonsense degrees that don’t amount to anything but making junior feeeeel good about himself.

It’s not “the economy’s” fault. It’s the dipwads that don’t have a clue what’s valuable to an employer.


6 posted on 04/24/2012 3:38:00 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Can't afford a ticket back from Suffragette City)
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To: tobyhill
(and the idiots will still vote for Obama)

Goes to show that being educated doesn't make someone smart or intelligent.

7 posted on 04/24/2012 3:39:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: max americana

Michael.
With creative writing degree, NBC has an opening if you are good at editing other people’s words.


8 posted on 04/24/2012 3:40:13 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: tobyhill

There are opportunities out there. Wonder how much time they’re devoting to job-seeking?

CareerBuilder
http://www.careerbuilder.com

Jobvertise
http://www.jobvertise.com

Indeed
http://www.indeed.com

Nation Job
http://www.nationjob.com

Craigslist
http://gulfport.craigslist.org/sls/2946468537.html


9 posted on 04/24/2012 3:40:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: tobyhill

Now he can creatively’ write about his time as a barista.


10 posted on 04/24/2012 3:41:47 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Noumenon

“How’s the degree in ‘peace studies’ workin’ out for ya, boy?”

Michael: “that was my second major”


11 posted on 04/24/2012 3:44:29 PM PDT by max americana
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To: tobyhill
1 in 2 new graduates are jobless or underemployed (and the idiots will still vote for Obama)

Whether or not the idiots vote for Obama depends on how good a job the GOP does in choosing their nominee. An eloquent, conservative fighter could get the job done. Odds are we're in trouble.

12 posted on 04/24/2012 3:44:59 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: tobyhill

It would be intriguing to have the data showing how many of these poor unfortunates majored in “Pre-wed” or “Ethnic Studies 1.01” or “Uderwater Basketweaving” or some other esoteric or obscure, or in practicle terms useless major.....oe chose a meaningful major, but spent their days partying and/or demonstrating and barely squeaked by with a questionable degree.


13 posted on 04/24/2012 3:45:09 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: max americana

When I went to college I don’t think you could find an institution, even the most crappy ones, with something like a degree in Creative Writing. At my school, journalism and poli-sci were the bottom of the barrel.


14 posted on 04/24/2012 3:46:09 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: max americana
well, Michael, WRITE. Write the Great American Novel. LIve in a garret and eat bread crusts. Isn't that what creative artists did in the past? Did you really expect that someone was going to reward your "creativity" without evidence you really have it?
15 posted on 04/24/2012 3:49:21 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: tobyhill
some text

Losing the nose ring might help.

16 posted on 04/24/2012 3:52:24 PM PDT by NJRighty
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To: NewHampshireDuo

I graduated from university in 2006. Our journalism department were choc full of idiots that our fraternity never recruited from them. I did date some PolSci students as some of them were hot, but brain-dead when it comes to reality.


17 posted on 04/24/2012 3:53:14 PM PDT by max americana
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To: tobyhill
“I don’t even know what I’m looking for,’’ says Michael Bledsoe, who described months of fruitless job searches as he served customers at a Seattle coffeehouse. The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.

Isn't ExxonMobil looking for a new CFO?

Who counsels these kids when they make college plans? Does earning a living not even enter into the discussions? What 'job' did the young man THINK his degree would qualify him for? The Snooki/Obama generation. God help us!

18 posted on 04/24/2012 3:58:22 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
"LIBERAL ARTS" is simply a popular term used in place of "COLLEGE OF ARTS & SCIENCES" ~ without which you wouldn't have physicians, chemists, biological sciences researchers, and so forth.
19 posted on 04/24/2012 4:00:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
BTW, "employers" are short about 20 million jobs, and that's not because they are too picky about who they are hiring.

They are NOT HIRING.

20 posted on 04/24/2012 4:03:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pollster1

Romney bears the extra burden of having gotten himself known as for laying off personnel ~ not good at all in these times.


21 posted on 04/24/2012 4:04:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Political Science is the premiere requirement to move on into Law School, so I take it your university didn't do Law.

So, what do they do for donors?

22 posted on 04/24/2012 4:06:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: max americana

Odds are your first divorce was handled by a Political Science major as was your second medical malpractice case.


23 posted on 04/24/2012 4:07:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tobyhill
The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.

I Googled creative writing degree since I have no idea what the hell one does with it after earning one, if that what you would call it...

Seems like it is to give a person an advantage in writing a book to get published...I wonder how many well known authors have a degree in creative writing....My bet very few

Maybe a real degree in literature might be more worth while in advancing ones ability to write a book....

24 posted on 04/24/2012 4:08:05 PM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: muawiyah

We’ve been in full-on hiring mode for more than the last two years...nearly every department. Well-paying, excellent benefits. I’ve needed Mechanical Engineers in the worst way for at least 18 months.

If you’re an Engineer - consider the Bluegrass State your new home and come on down!


25 posted on 04/24/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Can't afford a ticket back from Suffragette City)
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To: tobyhill

We’re fortunate. Our daughter is graduating in May and has received two job offers. Taking that unpaid internship over the summer and then spending her nights and weekends waiting tables definitely paid off.


26 posted on 04/24/2012 4:13:00 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (The only thing liberals favor manufacturing here is fake outrage.)
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To: Popman

http://college.indiana.edu/programs/ Using my alma mater as an example ~ they have nearly 300 majors available (many in the Business School) but you can read through the list here and notice they even have a Sanskrit concentration ~ that’s for a special kind of language major who attends this school ~ which is where Air Force has been sending its intelligence agents for decades (as have others of that sort). This is what you call LIBERAL ARTS ~ right down to Mathematical Modeling and Medicine.


27 posted on 04/24/2012 4:16:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Popman

http://iub.edu/~mfawrite/?page_id=32 Notice that Creative Writing is offered only as a minor for undergraduate studies, but there’s an MFA FOR graduate level (60 hours over 3 years). Reading through the requirements to get in it looks like you probably ought to be a professional writer first! I’d imagine most folks have no idea what the MFA is about ~


28 posted on 04/24/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
There's your first problem ~ KAIN TUCKY

You need a better location.

29 posted on 04/24/2012 4:22:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

I hope, somehow, after this fiasco, the culture returns to a force that understands how to ‘create value’. Back in the ‘90’s, we knew after all this stealing from each other, the piper was going to be paid. When depends on how long they keep putting off the necessary pain. And there will be pain!


30 posted on 04/24/2012 4:28:57 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: muawiyah

All through history, people migrate to where conditions are more favorable - no reason for that to change now!

If you’re out of work - go where the work is!


31 posted on 04/24/2012 4:29:27 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Can't afford a ticket back from Suffragette City)
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To: griswold3

Amen to that, FRiend.


32 posted on 04/24/2012 4:37:25 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow (Can't afford a ticket back from Suffragette City)
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To: tobyhill
College graduates who majored in zoology, anthropology, philosophy, art history and humanities were among the least likely to find jobs appropriate to their education level; those with nursing, teaching, accounting or computer science degrees were among the most likely.

Maybe these idiots should have actually done a bit of research on what jobs are actually out there instead of just imaging that their dream job will be waiting for them in a low demand field?

33 posted on 04/24/2012 4:39:19 PM PDT by SledgeCS (I will vote for Obama when he says "The F'ing MUSLIMS attacked the USA and are the enemy")
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To: tobyhill
We're fully expecting our two youngest to have to live at home for a bit, even if they do get jobs right away. They'll need to start paying off their college loans, and if they can only find lower paying jobs to start with, not having to pay full rent, utilities, etc, will be a help.

They took on all their own loans; we didn't take on any of that debt, so we'd be happy to help them get on their feet. They're great kids, and we enjoy being with them. They got degrees in Economics/Math, and Computer Science, so they might have a leg up on the Social Science and Liberal Arts majors, but there's no telling what's out there for them.

34 posted on 04/24/2012 4:41:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: tobyhill
The wit and wisdom of tobyhill:

(and the idiots will still vote for Obama)[Failure to the Extreme](Yes, it's Obama's fault!)(LIARS! They had to know)(Welcome to Greece)(How's that "Hope and Change" thing working out?)(FOOLS!)("Going Green" still "Going Ridiculous")(Now STFU Libs!)(Obama's in full desperation mode)(Rocker warns leftists to 'call 1-800-NUMBNUT')(More Communist intimidation tactics)(Nothing Obama hasn't done)(Obama steals lines like he steals our money)(Worry not Buffett, Obama to issue a death waiver)(Prosecutor's case falling apart)(4/26/2006. Who's to blame now Rats and MSM?) (7/17/2008. Who's to blame now Pelosi?)(Another RINO defends Rosen)(Everything Obama does is a gimmick)(Even WP's "Fact Check" admits Obama's policies hurt women)

35 posted on 04/24/2012 4:46:18 PM PDT by Misterioso ( The difference between stupidity and intelligence is that intelligence has its limits)
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To: All
Last lines of the story...

“Everyone is always telling you, `Go to college,’’’ Edwards said. “But when you graduate, it’s kind of an empty cliff.’’

WHAT?

Shoulda hada degree in mixed metaphors instead...

36 posted on 04/24/2012 4:48:54 PM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for straightening—or attempting to straighten out—some of these ignoramuses who confuse job training with education. Some, though, are beyond hope since they know exactly how the world works.


37 posted on 04/24/2012 4:50:52 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Misterioso

“Rocker warns leftists to ‘call 1-800-NUMBNUT’”

Not mine but thanks.


38 posted on 04/24/2012 4:54:24 PM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Amen! When my oldest boy decided to major in “film” I nearly had a collapse. Yes, he is creative, but NOT some savant. I explained how important it was to get a degree in a field that one could actually find employment in - I got nowhere. He has never worked in the film industry. He did have a job for six months as a video cassette monkey at a small local news station. He hated that. Never has found steady work and hates the world.

My youngest took my advice, and got a part time job at 16 years old. Toughed it out until he got out of high school, then before entering COMMUNITY college, he traded up to a job at Lowes making $1.25 more per hour.

He had tough times, not being a great student while being a super intelligent human (dyslexia) but he got his associates in Science. Went on to a great State collage, which happens to be walking distance from the home I shared with my new hubby, so we convinced him to stay with us to save TONS and TONS of money.

Still struggles with studies - molecular bio - but he didn’t quit. Still works at Lowes, makes close to what the managers do, heh, and should graduate this spring.

He is conservative, but a little “socially” liberal, decent balance as it comes from empathy rather than influence of the progressives.

Bottom line - he has worked since he was 16 at menial jobs, but never quit, never was out of work. Got his assoc. degree in spite of falling down a lot, his bach. should give him lots of opportunities in many science related fields.

Yes, I talked at him A LOT about going into studies that would land him a good job with a real future.

“Just look at your brother”, I said.

I believe that helped a great deal.


39 posted on 04/24/2012 4:56:33 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: tobyhill
Not to worry....TAXPAYERS' EARNINGS will be taken to pay your Student Loans......aka; OBAMA MONEY!

Keep votin' (D), to keep the cash comin'.

40 posted on 04/24/2012 5:07:13 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Prov1322

Is your cliff half empty or half full?


41 posted on 04/24/2012 5:11:57 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Ladysforest
When i retired a few years back i hadn't had more than a 3 week vacation at a time off since I turned 17.

Your kid's a slacker until he can do that, and get a perfect attendance award for 40 years in the same company. But, some kids do follow that track easily. To a degree it depends on what they can study in versus what they'd like to study. A friend of mine once pointed out that there are two kinds of courses ~ those where you read one book 70 times and the other where you read 70 books once.

42 posted on 04/24/2012 5:18:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: tobyhill

Hey Michael, be an original — write a novel titled “War and Peace”.

It’ll keep you busy for awhile.


43 posted on 04/24/2012 5:43:01 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: tobyhill

The 23-year-old graduated in 2010 with a creative writing degree.

Even McDonalds will be requiring a higher degree than that soon considering the path we’re on.

Most of my landscape employees have higher degrees and I’m tightening up minimum requirements again. How about 3 languages and business related degrees?


44 posted on 04/24/2012 7:35:51 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: tobyhill

Just checking.


45 posted on 04/24/2012 7:48:46 PM PDT by Misterioso ( The difference between stupidity and intelligence is that intelligence has its limits)
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To: tobyhill

12 years of government grammer school.

+ 4 years of partially government funded college .

And at least half of these graduates can’t get a job after 16 years of training. What more proof does anyone need that government/socialism doesn’t work?


46 posted on 04/25/2012 5:14:54 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 3 years. China makes everything taking U.S. ability to manufacture)
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To: tobyhill

Thankfully Obama’s support among young people is waning......http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/04/24/2022445/youth-vote-still-favors-obama.html


47 posted on 04/25/2012 5:22:17 AM PDT by csmusaret (I have kleptomania, but when it gets too bad I take something.)
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To: muawiyah
Political Science is the premiere requirement to move on into Law School, so I take it your university didn't do Law.

Yes, there was a law program and the poli-sci folks that I knew were the bottom of the barrel.

48 posted on 04/25/2012 2:52:27 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: muawiyah

Why does your choice of career make my child a “slacker”? There are careers that allow for more than three weeks vacation. As for your “perfect attendance” record, I am pleased to know that you are fortunate enough to be a very hearty and healthy human being. As my son is still in his twenties, and a few weeks from getting his bachelors in Neuroscience, I suppose only time will tell if he is able to live up to the stellar standards that you have achieved.

Thank goodness that his chosen field will allow him many opportunities. Thank goodness that he has the intellect to pursue and achieve such a difficult degree. Meanwhile he is employed, and has no intention of leaving that job until he has a nice offer. Thank goodness he is a sensible and hard working young man.

I am quite satisfied.


49 posted on 04/25/2012 4:32:25 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: Ladysforest

Just teasing. Your kid is already an “over achiever”.


50 posted on 04/25/2012 4:49:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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