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54 National Park Areas Jeopardized Under Bogus "National Security" Bill Advancing in U.S. House
PrNewswire ^ | April 18, 2012 | PRNewswire

Posted on 04/25/2012 7:37:33 AM PDT by opentalk

Legislation pending in the U.S. House of Representatives that is being falsely touted as improving U.S. border security would instead "have the potential to devastate 54 of America's national parks, historic sites, national monuments and other popular park icons and negatively impact the nation's economy," according to a warning issued today by the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees (CNPSR).

H.R. 1505, the mistitled "National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act," would gut a century's worth of proven federal lands protection, potentially opening up millions of pristine acres of national parks to off-road vehicle use, road construction, air strips and helipads, fencing, base installations, and other disruptions.

This radical legislation introduced by Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT) would suspend the enforcement of almost all the nation's environmental laws on all lands under the jurisdiction of the Departments of the Interior and Agriculture within 100 miles of the northern border with Canada and the southern border with Mexico. It would change the targeted national park and other federal areas into security zones and leave priceless resources unprotected.

...Among the National Park Service areas that fall within H.R. 1505's proposed 100-mile zone of potential devastation are Acadia, Big Bend, Carlsbad Caverns, Cuyahoga Valley, Glacier, Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve, Guadalupe Mountains, Isle Royale, Joshua Tree, North Cascades, Olympic, Saguaro, Theodore Roosevelt, Voyageurs, and Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve.

The combined total acreage of these 15 parks is 21,657,399, nearly 25 percent of the overall footprint U.S. National Park System. They are located within the states of Alaska, Arizona, California, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Mexico, North Dakota, Ohio, Texas, and Washington.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agenda21; dhs; hr1505; nationalparks; restrictedaccess; un
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NPS Retirees: 54 National Park Areas Jeopardized Under Bogus "National Security" Bill Advancing in U.S. House

1 posted on 04/25/2012 7:37:42 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Yep. Got to protect the pristine border areas from the border patrol.


2 posted on 04/25/2012 7:44:33 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: opentalk
the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees (CNPSR)

Seriously? Honest to Pete, the octopus just keeps growing new arms.
3 posted on 04/25/2012 7:46:22 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: KarlInOhio
Many more parks, including:

Isle Royale National Park MI

Glacier Bay National Park and Preserve

Carlsbad Caverns National Park

according to the article

: The combined total acreage of these 15 parks is 21,657,399, nearly 25 percent of the overall footprint U.S. National Park System,

This may/would result in restricted access to the public

4 posted on 04/25/2012 8:07:06 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Is there really a law against the incorporation of new cities in the United States?


5 posted on 04/25/2012 8:08:33 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: opentalk

bbb....bbbbbu.....bbb...bbbbbbut Julia Louis-Dreyfus is on my radio every 22 minutes whining that our National Parks are in immediate grave danger due to “climate change and underfunding”.


6 posted on 04/25/2012 8:16:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: opentalk

Wrangell-St. Elias National Park

North Cascades

7 posted on 04/25/2012 8:31:44 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Thirteen million of those acres are accounted for by Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve alone.

This is an excellent piece of legislation. I really hope it becomes law.


8 posted on 04/25/2012 8:31:46 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: opentalk; TEXOKIE

Republican Sponsored H.R. 1505 Would give DHS Police State Powers over 80% of the U.S.

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2011/09/30/republican-sponsored-h-r-1505-would-give-dhs-police-state-powers-over-80-of-the-u-s/

Map
http://www.pewenvironment.org/news-room/other-resources/maps-us-public-lands-at-risk-from-hr-1505-85899361611

Republicans Push For Department of Homeland Security Takeover of National Parks

http://theintelhub.com/2012/04/23/republicans-push-for-department-of-homeland-security-takeover-of-national-parks/

Bill
http://thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1505:#

Final Betrayal - HR 1505
http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/fatal-betrayal-of-america-hr-1505/

In this article, we have shown:

Politics is a triangle with the Constitution at the top.
DHS is a beast with “seven heads.”
DHS will control your travel, food, and water.
The reasons for HR 1505 are invalid.
We can’t trust DHS.
The SPLC is creating policy for DHS.
DHS is building fortresses.
HR 1505 would take away our legal and constitutional rights.
DHS plans to enforce UN Agenda 21.
HR 1505 is a fatal betrayal of America


9 posted on 04/25/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: opentalk

ParcPersons lie!

The enviro-socialism based central management in the National Park Service is the cause of the generalized habitat degradation in lands entrusted to ParcMan.


10 posted on 04/25/2012 8:35:10 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: free me
DHS has not been interested in protecting the border, they seem more interested in monitoring us. They policed counter fit purses in a flea market last week.

Would not give them more power right now, especially when it would restrict use from us. Seems more like Agenda 21 objective.

Isle Royale National Park in Michigan is an Island, it is 45 miles long and 9 miles wide. It is a summer travel destination.

11 posted on 04/25/2012 8:45:08 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
The main reason this bill is needed is that leftists using "preservation" of the national parks as a reason not to patrol the borders. That turns the unguarded borders into trash pits for the illegals. Now if they were really interested in protecting the parks they would see that having millions of illegals stomping through isn't beneficial and that giving up some of the land will increase the total benefit. But they are more interested in keeping up a supply of low cost labor and welfare beneficiaries than in actually protecting the parks. They are willing to sacrifice the parks in order to promote their social goals of adding a subservient lower class.
12 posted on 04/25/2012 8:45:50 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: free me

spelling correction= Counterfeit


13 posted on 04/25/2012 8:48:13 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Whenifhow

“H.R. 1505 was introduced on April 13, 2011, by Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT), Chairman of the House Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands, and would apply to an area that encompasses 10 whole states, including Florida and Hawaii. Environmental and other laws this proposed legislation would waive include the National Environmental Policy Act, Endangered Species Act, Clean Air Act, Safe Drinking Water Act, Wilderness Act, Federal Land Policy and Management Act, National Park Service Organic Act, Migratory Bird Treaty Act and the Coastal Zone Management Act.”

This is from your own link with the map. Around MI, this would be good for us.


14 posted on 04/25/2012 8:48:35 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: opentalk

You are falling for the leftist BS represented by the article you posted.

The bill allows DHS to secure our borders. Right now they are prohibited from using “motorized vehicles” in many places for instance.

There are no prohibited uses.

The people against this bill ARE the agenda 21 types.


15 posted on 04/25/2012 8:52:01 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
Appears to treat the northern border and Alaska like the Mexican border , bill seems too broad.
16 posted on 04/25/2012 9:05:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
This is also intended to counteract the use of "park" designations as ways to prevent perfectly legitimate uses of the land for mining and oil production. The real "parks" aren't going to be targets of development. It is the former areas that were excluded from use by improper "park" designation that we resume "normal" use. The House is asserting control/oversight where the bureaucrats have overplayed their hands.
17 posted on 04/25/2012 9:18:04 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: opentalk

That is not Glacier Bay, it is Hubbard Glacier.


18 posted on 04/25/2012 9:25:51 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: opentalk

Right now DHS cannot pursue drug smugglers coming across from Canada because of environmental regulations.

You are correct that DHS is NOT currently trying to stop illegals crossing the border but that is because Obama is in charge.

I concede the House bill may be too broad and more protections may need to be added. I understand several Senate versions being looked at address this.

I am all for making the legislation better.


19 posted on 04/25/2012 9:31:41 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: netmilsmom; free me; Myrddin; opentalk

This bill is infested with communist double talk.
Note: CBP never asked for power to overrule land managers or ignore environmental laws

Please read the link below
http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/fatal-betrayal-of-america-hr-1505/

1. Reason given: To stop the turf war between federal agencies. The Forest Service (USFS) and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) don’t like DHS on their land. Hmmm. Maybe they have good reasons to keep DHS off their land.

Solution A: Let the county sheriff decide who comes into his county, as according to the US Constitution. This is Rehberg’s proposed amendment.

Solution B: Return all federally confiscated land back to the states. This should be done anyway.

The irony is DHS-CBP never asked for power to overrule land managers or ignore environmental laws. Last spring the Government Accountability Office found,

“Most agents reported that land management laws have had no effect on Border Patrol’s overall measure of border security.”

snip

See those icons of Border Patrol stations on the map?

Those are not your everyday Forest Service public information stations. According to anonymous eye witnesses, these Border Patrol stations are fortresses capable of keeping Obama’s Civilian Security Force (or a Chinese army) housed, fed, armed, and fully equipped to control the population of the United States. These Border Patrol Stations cannot be justified for border control.

These Border Patrol stations are not all on the border. They are not going to stop illegal border crossings. But if an enemy has already captured our federal government (as it has), then these stations are a perfect way to control you.

These Border Patrol stations have large underground fuel tanks (so when you run out of fuel for your home and vehicles, DHS will be able to control you). These Border Patrol stations have veterinarian facilities for dogs and horses (so DHS can follow and find you).


20 posted on 04/25/2012 9:44:00 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

You link is broken.....but this sentence.....

“According to anonymous eye witnesses, these Border Patrol stations are fortresses capable of keeping Obama’s Civilian Security Force (or a Chinese army) housed, fed, armed, and fully equipped to control the population of the United States.”

Reeks of tin-foil hat stuff.

Let me tell you, get half the environmental regulations out of MI and we will boom.


21 posted on 04/25/2012 9:55:49 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom; opentalk

There is no question the EPA, environmentalists are in the way of freedom, liberty and economic growth.

The link works
http://www.standupamericaus.org/politics-washington-dc/fatal-betrayal-of-america-hr-1505/

Media Blackout...Canada and U.S. borders to be removed under new agreements.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKvIqtcXH0A&context=C4e7a03aADvjVQa1PpcFNULjmywP_iwLSBGSyuMd-qeBcQMrTw8cU=

DHS | Beyond the Border: A Shared Vision for Perimeter Security and Economic Competitiveness

http://www.dhs.gov/files/publications/beyond-the-border.shtm

New deal to ease trade and travel at U.S.-Canada border
http://www.vancouversun.com/travel/deal+ease+trade+travel+Canada+border/5827393/story.html

The plan includes:

• Enhanced tracking of travellers in both countries.

• Joint screening of cargo coming from foreign countries to Canada and the U.S.


22 posted on 04/25/2012 10:22:52 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

This is what I get...

The connection has timed out

The server at www.standupamericaus.org is taking too long to respond.
The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer’s network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


23 posted on 04/25/2012 10:36:01 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Whenifhow

Oh and BTW, if you’ve ever crossed the US/Canadian border since 9/11, you’d understand WHY we do need an easy way to cross.

Trucks wait 2 hours at the Blue Water Bridge. Cars wait with them unless you have a NEXUS pass. We have one. If you want to be paranoid, fine with me, but when my hubby, myself, my two blonde/blue eyed daughters and the dog, pulling a camper can speed on through driving to Toronto for the Harry Potter exhibit, the whole thing works for me.

AND the EPA regulations being beat down? Win/win!


24 posted on 04/25/2012 10:41:43 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Whenifhow

Pure tin foil hat looney tunes


25 posted on 04/25/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: Whenifhow; netmilsmom; Myrddin; opentalk

An example of the problems this bill attempts to address:

As we earlier reported (June 13 Human Events page 12), Environmental rules are hampering Border Patrol operations near the Mexican border, even as the agency doles out millions in taxpayer dollars meant to offset damage to endangered species.

Because of a pond inhabited by endangered pupfish, Border Patrol officers can use their vehicles to pursue illegal aliens only if the chase stays on the main road. If the pursuit veers into a 42-acre sector near the pond, officers must continue the chase on foot or horseback.

Border Patrol agents can’t drive vehicles into designated Wilderness areas, as well as certain areas of national parks and monuments.

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Agreements between the Homeland Security and Interior Departments on how best to protect the ecosystem are frustrating lawmakers who say they also prevent agents from conducting routine patrols.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=44433


26 posted on 04/25/2012 11:55:33 AM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: All

Another excellent article explaining why this bill is needed and why greenies and socialists everywhere are against it:

Off Limits: Homeland Security & Green Groups Fight Over the Borderlands

by Cara Daniel, Green Watch, February 2012 (view as PDF here: GW0212)

Summary: The federal government has set aside hundreds of millions of acres of public land for ranching and forestry, national parks and wilderness areas, and it tasks various agencies to monitor and regulate land conservation and use. Because over 20 million acres of these federally-protected lands can be entered from across the U.S. border, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is required to patrol often difficult and hard-to-reach terrain. The job performed by the U.S. Border Patrol is made even harder by restrictions that require border security projects to abide by a myriad of environmental protection laws. Recently a bill in Congress, H.R. 1505, the National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act, was introduced to immunize DHS from many of these federal restrictions. Green groups are up in arms. They fear that DHS enforcement will hurt the environment and trample on individual rights. But many Americans living along the increasingly crime-ridden borderlands disagree.

https://www.capitalresearch.org/2012/02/gw-test/


27 posted on 04/25/2012 12:13:11 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
I agree with you on the Mexican border. It has become very dangerous and is spilling over, should be a high security priority. Just don't want this used as an opportunity to advance some agenda to areas which this is not an issue.
28 posted on 04/25/2012 12:28:15 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
H.R. 1505, the mistitled “National Security and Federal Lands Protection Act,” would gut a century's worth of proven federal lands protection, potentially opening up millions of pristine acres of national parks to off-road vehicle use, road construction, air strips and helipads, fencing, base installations, and other disruptions.

I'm not seeing this as a bad thing. ‘Bout time that the “people” got access to some of these areas of “their” parks.

29 posted on 04/25/2012 12:39:18 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: opentalk

Understood, there needs to be safeguards from overreach.
For instance, from the second article I posted:

“What about civil liberties concerns? Opponents of H.R. 1505 worry that the open-ended phrase “activities that assist in securing the border” can mean anything without checks and balances. They say H.R. 1505 is a government overreach giving DHS too much power over what Americans can and cannot do on public lands.”

While not necessarily nefarious this phrase needs to be much more specific.

I’m not too worried about abuse on the northern border. Budget limitations alone should deter that. However I’m not sure I see the need for the microwave towers in Glacier so there should perhaps be some type of check on the power of DHS in this bill.


30 posted on 04/25/2012 12:47:25 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
Other issues,

DHS handling of TSA and callousness toward the average citizen, seniors and children. Their ever expanding presence to roads, bus stations, partnering with local law enforcement. Memos implying people that are conservative are a security risk..Growing and giving them more power is a concern.

31 posted on 04/25/2012 12:59:26 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

This radical legislation introduced by Rep. Rob Bishop (R-UT) would suspend the enforcement of almost all the nation’s environmental laws on all lands under the jurisdiction of the Departments of the Interior and Agriculture within 100 miles of the northern border with Canada and the southern border with Mexico.


This may be a good thing.........................


32 posted on 04/25/2012 1:06:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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To: Myrddin

If that is the case, why is the grand Staircase Escalante administered by the Bureau of Land Management not included?

It is the largest park in the lower 48 and is not under the Dept of interior or agriculture.


33 posted on 04/25/2012 1:14:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The environmental part is not my concern.


34 posted on 04/25/2012 1:32:40 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

TSA should be abolished! This bill deals with the Border Patrol more so than it’s parent agency.


35 posted on 04/25/2012 2:32:43 PM PDT by free me (heartless)
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To: bert
I recall that area was excluded from access by action under Clinton to prevent access to the coal fields so his buddies in the Riady organization wouldn't have to deal with competition.
36 posted on 04/25/2012 3:00:37 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: free me
In the current environment -lose your passport if you owe the IRS, (as they talk about raising taxes), Drones over the US, NDAA ...

Mexican border area makes sense, giving DHS extra power around circumference of US seems to add more to the big brother mentality.

Unless I am misinterpreting this, it includes the whole southern tip of FL, everglades.

..shall apply to all sections of the international land and maritime borders of the United States within 100 miles of such borders

H.R. 1505

37 posted on 04/25/2012 3:17:47 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Whenifhow

If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2861644/posts


38 posted on 04/29/2012 5:17:02 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: KarlInOhio

Some of these parks are in areas where there are no maintained roads and winter renders the borders impassable. It isn’t just infiltration routes. Teddy Rooseveldt National Park? Not even close to the border. Brutal terrain to go cross country, and in winter?<p.By the time the US secures the borders, it won’t be to keep others out, it will be to keep us in.


39 posted on 04/29/2012 5:33:26 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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