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MITT ROMNEY: GAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE IN BOY SCOUTS
GLAAD ^ | 4/26/2012 | Aaron McQuade

Posted on 04/26/2012 11:40:58 AM PDT by DesertRenegade

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To: ScottinVA
how again is Romney better than Othugboy?

Careful, you'll upset the "Anybody But Obama" crowd.

Of course, those are the same people who created the mentality in the RNC that it doesn't matter who the candidate is, when the election comes around, they'll all get in line.

51 posted on 04/26/2012 12:23:06 PM PDT by voicereason (Dems, Pubbies...too often a one-sided coin.)
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To: SZonian; Boonie
she cannot uphold the Scout Oath and Law due to her abherrant behavior

I agree:

On my honor, I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.

52 posted on 04/26/2012 12:27:38 PM PDT by Rio
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To: jdsteel

What is so wrong with playing both sides of an issue?


53 posted on 04/26/2012 12:28:09 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Sequoyah101

Uhm - sorry it didn’t work for you. I’m likely close to your age, and was a Scout for 5 years as a youth. I’m a Scout Leader now. I don’t find any real problem having ladies as leaders as long as they run the program correctly, i.e. don’t be a Mom - be a Mentor/Coach.

The fact is that Boy Scouts (not cubs) is a Boy lead organization if done correctly. Thus, it isn’t nearly that important whether the adult leaders are men or women.

Just to put all my cards on the table - I’ve been with my own son from Tiger cubs through him receiving his Eagle a year ago. I’m still the Scout Master and plan on staying such for a few more years.


54 posted on 04/26/2012 12:28:09 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: DesertRenegade
MITT ROMNEY: GAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE IN BOY SCOUTS

... so he could be on the receiving end?

No WAY will I vote Romney. We will deal with Obama's SC nominees through the Senate.

55 posted on 04/26/2012 12:29:05 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: voicereason
mentality in the RNC that it doesn't matter who the candidate is, when the election comes around, they'll all get in line.

Admittedly, in the past, I was among those who "got in line." Not this year, though.

56 posted on 04/26/2012 12:32:56 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012.)
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To: Jeff Head

/ “ But, even if he still holds the 1994 personal opinion, it is clear he is not going to mess with or try to force the Boy Scouts to change... “ /

Well THAT’S a relief!

I know you will be providing that quote from the Bishop Romneybama that backs up your statement that “it’s clear he is not going to mess with or try to force the Boy Scouts to change.....”

I don’t know how to attribute goodness to men who say ever so clearly that that they are “open” to queers serving with regularity and title among and OVER defenseless boys who are often away from direct parental oversight.

Apparently you’re able to sleep okay having heard your nominee say that regardless when he said it. What’s changed with him since he said it? YOU have NO clue who Bishop Romneybama is beholding or in exchange for what.

I heard he already hired on an open gay as his campaign advisor on military matters.

If that is true, what’s to keep his interest in check for having openly gay leaders for Boy Scouts?


57 posted on 04/26/2012 12:36:21 PM PDT by RitaOK (Nevermind, Newt. Forget the convention. I'm trusting God for the rest.)
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To: ScottinVA

/ “ Admittedly, in the past, I was among those who “got in line.” Not this year, though. “ /

We all were.

REBELLION IS HARD, but we’re gonna do it anyway, and trust God for the rest.


58 posted on 04/26/2012 12:40:36 PM PDT by RitaOK (Nevermind, Newt. Forget the convention. I'm trusting God for the rest.)
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To: DesertRenegade
“I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country.

Darn right it does, Willard. Don't mess with it.

I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue.

As a politician in a constitutional republic, supporting the right of a private institution to govern itself is your duty.

I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Who cares what you "feel", willard? It's none of your damn business. As a private citizen, you have the right to express your opinion. As a politician, you should STFU. Seriously.
59 posted on 04/26/2012 12:42:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DesertRenegade
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60 posted on 04/26/2012 12:45:49 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: DesertRenegade

Private individuals and private organizations should be able to make those decisions without government interference. However, if I had any doubts, the simple fact that Romney made an announcement would push me in the other direction.


61 posted on 04/26/2012 12:48:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: backwoods-engineer
We will deal with Obama’s SC nominees through the Senate.

just like Kagan and Sotomayor, right???

then think postpartum abortions(infanticide), coming soon.

62 posted on 04/26/2012 12:49:30 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RitaOK
Because his whole statement included:

"I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue."

And during his stint as Governor, as bad as it was, he never tried to force the Boy Scouts in Mass. to my knowledge (and please point me to references and cocumentation to the contray if I am wrong) to accept or change what it is the BSA as an organization has decided.

I diagree completely with his own perosnal feeling on ths issue...I would never support or personally feel that any gays should serve in any capacity with the scouts or any other youth group. People who are gay are sick...the lifestyle is sick...and that should be no surprise given God's word on the matter.

It is immoral, and every statistic shows how unhealthy it is (physically, mentally and emotionally) for the people so involved.

Romney has openly stated that he supports the right for the Boy Scouts to make their own choice and has never used his position to force anything different.

We cannot say the same is, or will be true for Obama.

And, as I stated, my support throughout these primaries has been for Sarah, Cain, Santorum, and then Newt, in that order.

63 posted on 04/26/2012 12:50:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SZonian

Told ya a long time ago that Rumbutt was against the Boy Scouts.

Boy Scout Ping latter tonight.


64 posted on 04/26/2012 12:50:20 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RitaOK

You’re right, Rita. I’m going to just do what I know is right and trust God for the rest, as you say. He’ll take care of His own. Besides, He’s already pre-ordained the winner.


65 posted on 04/26/2012 12:56:56 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: RetiredArmy

LOL, I’m getting a few of those Freepmails, as well.


66 posted on 04/26/2012 12:57:47 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: DesertRenegade

Her 7 year old would be a cub scout not a boy scout!


67 posted on 04/26/2012 12:57:55 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Kiss the Son!)
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To: DesertRenegade

Her 7 year old would be a cub scout not a boy scout!


68 posted on 04/26/2012 12:58:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Kiss the Son!)
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To: jimmango
A 7 year old is not in a Boy Scout Troop. He is in a Cub Scout Pack. Don’t they ever get tired being incorrect?

Apparently not.

69 posted on 04/26/2012 1:06:30 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: DesertRenegade

This is misleading. Romney pretty much acknowleges being a social liberal in 1994.

The question is: what does he think today? Has anyone asked him? And can we believe him?


70 posted on 04/26/2012 1:07:46 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: DesertRenegade
Coulter speaks to GOProud.

Coulter endorses Mutt.

Mutt owes Coulter.

71 posted on 04/26/2012 1:17:17 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: DesertRenegade
I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.

To me, this could easily read as saying kids working their way up through Scouts shouldn't be excluded and he is right about that.

It would be good to get clarification from him, but I think it is a stretch at this point to imply that he wants the Scouts to change their policy about not having homosexual Scout Masters. He clearly says that "I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue."

72 posted on 04/26/2012 1:17:19 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: July4

“Courage?” Romney’s been trying to buy the presidency for how many years now? Sorry, it’s nothing to do with courage; it’s about power for this guy.


73 posted on 04/26/2012 1:21:00 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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74 posted on 04/26/2012 1:22:21 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DesertRenegade

When he saved the Olympics he banned the Boy Scouts, so this should not be a surprise.


75 posted on 04/26/2012 1:25:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: Jeff Head
I agree mostly with what you said, but the way I read it was he could have been talking about the kids themselves. As long as the boys and young me are not coming onto others and openly gay, then the question should not even be asked. Scouting teaches great citizenship, responsibility and merits.

I didn't see where Romney was saying anything about homosexual Scout leaders. If he supported that, I would definitely have and issue with him. I DO NOT want my kids in the woods with a homosexual. In particular, I especially don't want them in the woods with one who has leadership or authority over them. The girl scouts caved on this and have lesbian leaders. They are a real mess and I know a lot of families who do not put their daughters in girl scouts because of that.

76 posted on 04/26/2012 1:25:44 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: backwoods-engineer; ScottinVA

Is he talking about the boys coming up through scouts, or is he talking about scout master positions? There is a significant difference.


77 posted on 04/26/2012 1:28:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: DannyTN
This is why the gay MSM has pushed Romney so hard.

Not sure but it may have affected Drudge Report.</sarcasm>

78 posted on 04/26/2012 1:28:31 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: SandRat

It’s a great day for Scouting, SR. Thanks for all you do.


79 posted on 04/26/2012 1:28:48 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: Blackyce
“I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue.” - Mitt Romney

They just have to pay the price, remember the Olympics? Thought so.

80 posted on 04/26/2012 1:30:30 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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How is Romney actually better than 0bomba again? I still haven't been able to see that. He wants mentally ill sex perverts who are historically attracted to boys to be able to join the Boy Scouts. How is it the fates have ordained that no conservative voter can vote? How is this happening? Romney is a huge supporter of mentally ill sex perversion along with all his other leftist/liberal history. If Gingrich is really out (looks like it, I guess) I keep thinking - how can I vote for Robomney? And then I see an article like this. I just can't do it.

81 posted on 04/26/2012 1:31:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: B Knotts
It would be a great debate question to ask both Mittens and Obama.

Question from a concerned Boy Scout parent in the heartland: Obama, do you support forcing the Boy Scouts of America to have homosexual Scout Masters? You do?

Mittens, do you ...

82 posted on 04/26/2012 1:32:05 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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83 posted on 04/26/2012 1:33:36 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sequoyah101

I feel your pain.

There are some good women leaders, but they’re outnumbered by the feminist types.

Also, the nannies.

Quick story, SM called and said a Scout had done severe enough to warrant intervention by the TC. Had put him on the list for nominees for OA election. Wanted to know what to do. I told him to use his judgement as a SM, if the boy was in that much trouble, he wasn’t upholding the Oath and Law.

Boy was removed from the list. Parents threw a complete conniption. The word got out. A female District Cmte member started this whispering campaign against the SM. Saying that what he had done was “wrong, you just don’t do that to a boy”. I told her to shut her yap, the boy broke the rules and was getting corrected.

Eventually the SM was forced to step down because of those cackling hens running around. And I was encouraged to quit the District Cmte.

The feminists got themselves a twofer on that one.


84 posted on 04/26/2012 1:35:33 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Blackyce

Forget it. The train is rollin, and there aint no stoppin it now.


85 posted on 04/26/2012 1:39:39 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Sequoyah101
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86 posted on 04/26/2012 1:39:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: DesertRenegade

The whole article at the link is a propaganda piece.

Unless it has changed, the woman couldn’t have been Scoutmaster of the her son’s “troop” for two reasons. First, Scoutmasters for Scout Troops is reserved for men and secondly, her son is Cub Scout age and he would have been in a Cub Scout “Pack.”

The quote from Mitt is 16 years old and appears to support Scouts in the controversy at that time but ends with wanting all parents to be able to participate — which they can. Scouting keeps acknowledged homosexuals, as well as certain others, outside of Leadership, it doesn’t say they can’t be parents participating under the supervision of Leaders. Scouting has long required “two deep” leadership structure keeping youth supervised by two or more adults to prevent isolation of kids by one adult. This is safer for adults as well.

I think that these people that get in fights with scouting love to drag in any crap from the political and national front to support their line — even an ambiguous 16 year old, out of context, quote.

I have a lot of problems with Mitt Romney, but this is a red herring.


87 posted on 04/26/2012 1:40:30 PM PDT by KC Burke (Newton's New First Law, Repeal and Restore!)
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To: RetiredArmy
I would like clarification from him on the scouting issue. Does he support having homosexual Scout Masters? The original post does not say that. It says participate, which could easily mean the kids.

Who is to say what kid is a homosexual, or just a little weird or confused?

If he supports the Scouts changing their policy, then that is a real problem.

88 posted on 04/26/2012 1:40:52 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SZonian
Ah, Jennifer Tyrell. After lesbian den leader Tyrell was dismissed by the BSA as a leader, she spoke onstage at the 23rd Annual GLAAD Media Awards and said:

“The Boy Scouts are supposed to have a platform of tolerance, acceptance, and support -- values that drew my son Cruz to be a scout, and that drew me to want to be a den leader."

Here in my third decade as a Scouter (local, District, Council, Regional, and National), I've yet to see a BSA publication with a platform of 'tolerance, acceptance, and support." I know the Scout Law, the Scout Oath, the Scout Motto, the Cub Scout Oath, the Cub Scout Motto - and so on. Nothing about tolerance and acceptance of lifestyles that don't meet what the BSA considers to be "Morally Straight" or in accordance with the Eleventh Point of the Scout Law: A Scout is Clean (in Word and Deed).

"We believe that homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the requirements in the Scout Oath that a Scout be morally straight and in the Scout Law that a Scout be clean in word and deed, and that homosexuals do not provide a desirable role model for Scouts. Because of these beliefs, the Boy Scouts of America does not accept homosexuals as members or as leaders, whether in volunteer or professional capacities."

Boy Scouts of America, Position Statement on Homosexuality, June 1991

89 posted on 04/26/2012 1:41:14 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: DesertRenegade

I should point out that the Boy Scouts do not actively seek to determine the sexual orientation of the boys who participate in scouts. The organization precludes gays from being leaders, but also doesn’t specifically target gay parents to keep them from parental involvement in scouting activities.

It is the leadership that the BSA focuses on, now as in 1994. I think some people get confused between the words “participate” and “serve” (like this headline did).

I realize that some people here at this site would support the BSA inquiring about sexual orientation and denying gay-identified boys from joining. The scouts do “tend” to deny atheists, after all, if they are outspoken — because it violates part of the scout oath.


90 posted on 04/26/2012 1:41:32 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: netmilsmom
Shhhhhh, you’re not allowed to actually read the article and tell the truth.

To bad you don't have the whole truth, maybe because you don't want to know.

91 posted on 04/26/2012 1:42:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: wagglebee

Oops, sent it out before I saw you did!


92 posted on 04/26/2012 1:44:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Scoutmaster

Now I have to dip my mouse in bleach and shun my computer for a few hours - I went to glaad.org to grab this graphic.

93 posted on 04/26/2012 1:44:28 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: FreeAtlanta

If Romney has anything to say about it, wouldn’t the “scoutmaster positions” be “ ‘missionary’ positions”...?

;^)


94 posted on 04/26/2012 1:45:07 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: KC Burke
KC, you are dead on target. This is a hit piece. I would like to have clarification from Romney, but I can't see going ape crap over this article.

In my experience, on Scout trips, I can't even let my son's friend sleep in our tent. A lot of safety procedures are in place to protect the kids and the adults. I am 100% good with that.

95 posted on 04/26/2012 1:45:24 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: FreeAtlanta

The thing is the older scouts influence the younger ones. So if a 17 or 18 year old scout decides he is “gay” but he is not a scout master, that could still cause horrendous problems.


96 posted on 04/26/2012 1:47:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: RitaOK
REBEllION IS TOO DAMN HARD AND IT’S SCARY.

Some of us are going to do it anyway.

You go girl! Seriously though Oklahoma will undoubtably go big for Romney, so who will you write in? I was always intending to write in Palin, but I am withholding that decision until I see how she approaches this election after the coronation ball.

97 posted on 04/26/2012 1:47:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: ScottinVA

By gawd there aint much difference.

When I vote for this silver spooned wannabee, I will do so with my nose held and angst in my heart for the Republican party.


98 posted on 04/26/2012 1:48:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: FreeAtlanta

Come on, Romney is pro-fag rights. Without him Massachusetts would not have “gay marriage”. Romney has been very outspoken regarding his support for the homo agenda.


99 posted on 04/26/2012 1:48:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Scoutmaster

The “D” word may be what she’s referencing, albeit, incorrectly.

I’ll bet she just couldn’t keep her mouth shut and her desire to agitate overcame any sense she may have had.

If she was truly sincere in putting her son’s interests first, she would have made every effort to suppress her own desires to ensure her son had a legitimate shot at enjoying the program.

But nooooooo...the love that shall not speak it’s name just can’t shut up!


100 posted on 04/26/2012 1:49:06 PM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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