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Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store
abc4.com ^ | Updated: 4/26 10:25 pm | Published: 4/26 8:20 pm | Reported by: Don Hudson

Posted on 04/27/2012 12:50:10 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A citizen with a gun stopped a knife wielding man as he began stabbing people Thursday evening at the downtown Salt Lake City Smith's store.

Police say the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon. Smith's employee Dorothy Espinoza says, "He pulled it out and stood outside the Smiths in the foyer. And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

Espinoza says, the knife wielding man seriously injured two people. "There is blood all over. One got stabbed in the stomach and got stabbed in the head and held his hands and got stabbed all over the arms."

Then, before the suspect could find another victim - a citizen with a gun stopped the madness. "A guy pulled gun on him and told him to drop his weapon or he would shoot him. So, he dropped his weapon and the people from Smith's grabbed him."

By the time officers arrived the suspect had been subdued by employees and shoppers. Police had high praise for gun carrying man who ended the hysteria. Lt. Brian Purvis said, "This was a volatile situation that could have gotten worse. We can only assume from what we saw it could have gotten worse. He was definitely in the right place at the right time."

Dozens of other shoppers, who too could have become victims, are also thankful for the gun carrying man. And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."

Police say right now they have no idea what caused the suspect to go on the dangerous rampage. (We will update as soon as we learn new information.)

So far, police have not released the names of the suspect, the victims or the man who pulled the gun.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: amish; bang; banglist; knife; notamish; saltlakecity; stabbing; vietnamese
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What's the point of warning the thug?
1 posted on 04/27/2012 12:50:25 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

There’s a video at the linked website.


2 posted on 04/27/2012 12:51:28 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
Here's a link to another article about the incident.

Man buys knife, stabs 2 at Salt Lake City store

By Andrew Wittenberg
April 26th, 2012 @ 7:45pm
ksl.com

SALT LAKE CITY — A man stabbed two people at the Smith's Marketplace grocery store in downtown Salt Lake City before being subdued by a bystander.

The attack took place around 5:30 p.m. in the parking lot of the store at 455 S. 500 East.

According to a witness, it appears one man was stabbed in the side of the head and another was stabbed in the stomach. The exact condition of the victims is unknown, but police believe the injuries are very serious and possibly critical.

Police say a bystander with a concealed carry permit witnessed the attack and stepped in to keep it from escalating.

"(The bystander) was suspicious of what might be going on, and when he saw the stabbing, he just drew his pistol and challenged the individual," which caused the alleged attacker to lie down on the ground, said Salt Lake City Police Lt. Brian Purvis.

By the time police officers arrived on the scene, the man was subdued and is now in custody.

The attacker apparently bought the knife inside the store. Police are going over surveillance videos to determine what else the man may have done before the attack.

Police have not yet interviewed the man in custody, who they say is in his 30s, and have been unable to speak to the victims while they are being treated for their injuries.

Police say there is no apparent motive for the attack at this time.

"Just going on what the witnesses said, it appears to be random," Purvis said.

Both victims are being treated at the hospital. Their identities have not been released, but police say they were both males, one in his 40s and one in his 30s.

"This was a really volatile situation that could have gotten even worse," Purvis said. "(The bystander) was definitely in the right place at the right time."


3 posted on 04/27/2012 12:59:02 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

“yelling you killed my people. You killed my people.”

Hmmmmm,

Those durn Amish again.


4 posted on 04/27/2012 12:59:48 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Uncle Lonny

You can bet this will NOT be widely reported by the MSM.


5 posted on 04/27/2012 1:19:17 AM PDT by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

True. Just give me the name. That will probably tell the story.


6 posted on 04/27/2012 1:55:55 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: Paleo Conservative

“What’s the point of warning the thug?”

That’s what I was thinking. Blam! Drop the weapon.


7 posted on 04/27/2012 1:58:07 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: Paleo Conservative
And many, like Danylle Julian, are still in shock from the experience. "Scary actually. Really scary. Five minutes before I walk out to my car. It could have been me."

At least a few of them had to be liberals. It would be interesting to interview a few of them and see if the experience had any impact on their view of guns.

8 posted on 04/27/2012 2:01:05 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Paleo Conservative
(We will update as soon as we learn new information.)

Yes, give us the name.

9 posted on 04/27/2012 2:03:05 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Paleo Conservative

Haven’t looked at the video yet - to which group of oppressed people does the perp belong?

BTW: I like how the second article in the comments quote the police as saying there was, “no apparent motive”, and the TV coverage states quite clearly that the man was yelling, “you killed my people”. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that there WAS a motive, but the cops are being tight-lipped.


10 posted on 04/27/2012 2:03:50 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Yardstick

Outlaw Knives!


11 posted on 04/27/2012 2:06:00 AM PDT by goron (blowmeuptom.com)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Police say there is no apparent motive for the attack at this time.

Yeah, sure.

12 posted on 04/27/2012 2:14:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Uncle Lonny

Son of Barack? SOB.


13 posted on 04/27/2012 2:16:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Paleo Conservative; Salamander; humblegunner
"Gun carrying man ends stabbing spree at Salt Lake grocery store"

I know the MSM has anthropomorphized guns to the point of instigating violent acts and fomenting crime on their own, but I had no idea they had become ambulatory and learned to use cutlery.

(This particular gun appears to have a tremendous weight to strength ratio as well. Carrying a man and all.)
14 posted on 04/27/2012 2:17:54 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

at least the perp can’t claim insanity now, since he was immediately aware of the gunpacking samaritan and clearly followed orders to drop the knife now.


15 posted on 04/27/2012 2:24:44 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: shibumi

*snork!*

Brave, hero gun!


16 posted on 04/27/2012 2:34:05 AM PDT by Salamander (Hey blood brother, you're one of our own. You're as sharp as a razor and as hard as a stone.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Has the “gunman” been charged with 2nd Degree Attempted Murder, Profiling and Terroristic Threats yet? “Justice for Knife Boy!!” “It was only an unsharpened butter knife and a bag of skittles!”


17 posted on 04/27/2012 2:56:04 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Paleo Conservative

If Obama had a son...


18 posted on 04/27/2012 2:58:25 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Paleo Conservative

Don’t tell me, this is one of Holder’s “Amish” people who was doing the stabbing and a racist white guy stopped him with a pistol. Hmmmmm. Won’t the MSM decry the racism of the white guy for confronting Holder’s “Amish” guy? The very idea! /s/


19 posted on 04/27/2012 3:00:58 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: MasterGunner01
JUSTICE for Knife Boy!! JUSTICE for Knife Boy!!!

LMAO!!!!!

8^D

20 posted on 04/27/2012 3:26:04 AM PDT by Gargantua ("All men ARE 'created' equal--but 21 years later... well, 'nuff said...")
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To: Paleo Conservative

He did the right thing, in my opinion.
He used the minimum amount of force necessary to stop the thug.
He also saved himself from the emotional trauma that follows a shooting.


21 posted on 04/27/2012 3:29:50 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (South Carolinians need to start choosing a primary challenger to Nikki Haley NOW!!!!!!!)
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To: Bon mots
"If Obama had a son..."

He would feed him stuffed poodle on rice for lunch...

22 posted on 04/27/2012 3:31:53 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Bump


23 posted on 04/27/2012 3:32:24 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: Paleo Conservative
What's the point of warning the thug?
He had plenty of time to shoot if the thug didn't comply. He did the right thing, not for the thug, but for himself. Even in Utah, he's better off not pulling the trigger if he doesn't have to. I am not saying he would have been wrong to pull the trigger, just that he made live easier for himself by not doing so.
24 posted on 04/27/2012 3:36:23 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; CaptainAmiigaf

hmmm! ping


25 posted on 04/27/2012 3:58:03 AM PDT by Mrs. B.S. Roberts
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To: samtheman

I tend to agree, although there are some in the 2nd Ammendment Community, Tom Gresham being one of them, who I guarantee you would have said this guy was wrong NOT to shoot. Go figure.


26 posted on 04/27/2012 4:13:58 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: goron
Outlaw Knives!

Don't be silly.

Outlaw foyers!

27 posted on 04/27/2012 4:16:36 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: BigCinBigD
“What’s the point of warning the thug?” That’s what I was thinking. Blam! Drop the weapon.

The point is the 5 second warning saved the guy with the gun from going through a Zimmerman thing for the rest of his life. If the idiot had a gun, it would be different.

28 posted on 04/27/2012 4:26:57 AM PDT by bobzeetwin
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To: samtheman
He did the right thing, not for the thug, but for himself.

Every gun owning citizen should just remember the acronym "AIM."

A is for ACCESS (Does the perp have access to do harm?)

I is for INTENT (Does the perp have intent to do harm?)

M is for MEANS (Does the perp have the means to do bodily harm to you or others.)

In this case after the perp with the knife was confronted he complied - he had no further access, dropped his intent and appeared to have no further means to do harm. Had the perp turned towards the patriot and made one motion to come for him he could have dropped him in a nanosecond.

29 posted on 04/27/2012 4:28:59 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: bobzeetwin

No. Not really. At least not in Texas. I can’t speak as too other states.


30 posted on 04/27/2012 4:33:37 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: bobzeetwin

Someone that had to shoot once said, “those that yell shoot, shoot, shoot have never really had to shoot”.


31 posted on 04/27/2012 4:35:06 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: missnry
Every gun owning citizen should just remember the acronym "AIM."
Good advice.
32 posted on 04/27/2012 4:40:33 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Paleo Conservative

How odd. I didn’t hear a thing about this on the news this morning on my way to work, but I hear endlessly about Zimmerman and Saint Skittles.


33 posted on 04/27/2012 4:42:24 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MachIV

He might say it, but I’m not sure he would do it. If he gets the drop on a knife-holder with a gun, and he is a safe enough distance to take his time and issue a warning, I think he’s going to issue that warning, unless the knife-wielder is actually in the midst of stabbing a victim.

It’s just good common sense.


34 posted on 04/27/2012 4:45:06 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: BigCinBigD
“What’s the point of warning the thug?” That’s what I was thinking. Blam! Drop the weapon.

Proper restraint, although sneered at by some, is crucial. If the thug had made another threatening move, it would be a justified shoot. If you have time and distance to warn a perp to cease or become deceased, it is the proper thing to do; especially in a public venue. We have a God-given right to protect and defend ourselves and others, not to needlessly kill. Those of us who love the 2nd Amendment and exercise it by carrying don't need the knee-jerkers endangering the contant attack against those rights by advocating a blanket "shoot first, ask questions later" platform. I wouldn't want someone to be armed anywhere near me without them having a grasp of situational awareness and the ability to restrain themselves.

35 posted on 04/27/2012 4:53:20 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Race not identified or political party....

Black Democrat.


36 posted on 04/27/2012 4:54:26 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: BigCinBigD
In My CC class I was warned. Don't shoot unless your life is in danger cause you'll probably go to jail. You have to decide, is jail better than dead.

Thats in Texas. Worse every where else.

37 posted on 04/27/2012 4:57:51 AM PDT by cb
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To: mtrott

Just give me the name. That will probably tell the story.

&&&
That’s what I was thinking. Probably the reason his name is not yet released.


38 posted on 04/27/2012 5:00:25 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Note what is said at the 1:50-1:55 mark....”man plays cop.”


39 posted on 04/27/2012 5:01:08 AM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: shibumi

The title does seem to be quite a nest of ambiguity and solecism.


40 posted on 04/27/2012 5:02:10 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: cb

You can use deadly force to stop a violent felony. Strapping random people in your presence is a violent felony. A man in close proximity with a knife is just as deadly as a man with a gun.

For the record, I would also have ordered him to put down the weapon and held him for the police. IF I could do so with out putting myself or others in jeopardy. Other wise I would have shot on the spot.


41 posted on 04/27/2012 5:05:14 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: BigCinBigD

Strapping = Stabbing.


42 posted on 04/27/2012 5:07:53 AM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: BigCinBigD

all true. but as Zimmerman knows, You might have to go to jail.


43 posted on 04/27/2012 5:13:12 AM PDT by cb
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To: marktwain; DaveLoneRanger

Your kind of story.


44 posted on 04/27/2012 5:25:18 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Paleo Conservative

the suspect purchased a knife inside the store and then turned it into a weapon.

A knife is already a weapon. This statement is stupid.


45 posted on 04/27/2012 5:26:07 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Just because someone thinks it's a good idea doesn't make it legal.)
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To: rfreedom4u

Video doesn’t show a lot of Holder’s people in the area during interviews but then again they seem to only come out when its dark......


46 posted on 04/27/2012 6:04:13 AM PDT by Progov
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To: rfreedom4u

A knife is a tool. Human intent for its use is what turns it into a weapon.


47 posted on 04/27/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: Paleo Conservative
"...And just started stabbing people and yelling you killed my people. You killed my people."

Hmmm....I wonder...would that be Holder's People? The article is incomplete in that area.

48 posted on 04/27/2012 6:13:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

+2...one for first laugh of the day and bonus point for utilizing dark humor...LOL!

I guess there’s a new FR acronym now... SOBO ...Son Of Barack Obama ;^)


49 posted on 04/27/2012 6:20:37 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: Paleo Conservative

It would seem to me that there were enough grounds for a double tap eventhough the perp wanted to yell Allah Ahkbar.


50 posted on 04/27/2012 6:22:00 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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