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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Free discussion...” LOL! How can you even post such a lie. I told the goon squad last January they were losing donations due to their stupid antics of Zotting,tattle tailing and brow beating posters that don't tow the line. Now you come with your tin cup in hand wondering where the money went. It's NOT the economy but you all won't listen anyways.
51 posted on 04/27/2012 7:20:20 AM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Raider Sam

Troll?


52 posted on 04/27/2012 7:20:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: w1andsodidwe
Believe me I am extremely conservative, but feel that it is more important to remove Obama than anything else. That is obviously no longer the objective on this site. Instead it seems to be to insult anyone who believes as I do.

You aren't taking a stand. You are surrendering to liberal control. Romney wasn't chosen by the people but by a small faction of those in control. FR has drawn a line in the sand and will not cross it. We supported McCain. Do you really think surrendering principles again will change anything?

53 posted on 04/27/2012 7:22:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: norwaypinesavage
I don't believe that telling the truth is "stirring the pot". Sometimes the truth hurts, but that's usually when it most needs to be said.

That is not what you are doing. This is a fund raising thread and you have taken this opportunity to take shots at FR for standing on principle.

54 posted on 04/27/2012 7:25:45 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Principles matter? Are you kidding. They are so fluid here, I’m not even sure they exist. Many of the “Go Newt!” crowd were flaming him as a liberal they couldnt vote for as late as last December.


55 posted on 04/27/2012 7:25:47 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why are you supporting a communist? See how easy this is.


56 posted on 04/27/2012 7:29:46 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I AM standing on principle. You just don’t happen to like my principles.


57 posted on 04/27/2012 7:30:32 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Raider Sam

This thread is not about any candidate. It is about supporting the forum that you use. If you do not wish to donate, or cannot, that is fine. Why stir the pot? Are you obliquely trying to discourage others from donating?


58 posted on 04/27/2012 7:30:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Raider Sam

I support neither candidate. They will both destroy this country.


59 posted on 04/27/2012 7:31:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: w1andsodidwe

It makes you wonder: Why would someone donate if they could be banned the next day (and be insulted at the same time)?


60 posted on 04/27/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Caving to liberal Republican control is standing on principle? You're right. I don't agree.

Again, this is a fund raising thread. What is your objective?

61 posted on 04/27/2012 7:33:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JoeProBono

I dont know, are you?


63 posted on 04/27/2012 7:34:51 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Romney was chosen by people voting for him. Its not some huge conspiracy.


64 posted on 04/27/2012 7:35:46 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: w1andsodidwe
The Grinding Down of America
65 posted on 04/27/2012 7:36:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I think that is the point. The thread is about fundraising, which is down. And this thread is a good example of why. Its a healthy debate that you seem to be afraid of.


66 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:38 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

67 posted on 04/27/2012 7:37:57 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jim was warned years ago that banning and insulting his followers was going to lead down this path. He chose arrogance, pride and misguided principles (whatever they may be at the moment) over the financial health of this site and now he’s reaping the rewards. You want our money? Change the way you do business. Simple as that.


68 posted on 04/27/2012 7:40:10 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Second Amendment First

Unfortunately, there’s a lot of that going around. It started with beginning of the primaries, and has on occasion gone nearly rabid with entire mobs piling on—often led or at least encouraged by mods. I’ll never understand why conservatives so viciously attack other conservatives, simply because they favor a different candidate in the primaries. Whole threads celebrated the ensuing zots—without considering that they just (a) cut off a good revenue source, and (b) ran off a good conservative, whose only “crime” was supporting someone other than Cain or Gingrich.

It’s ironic, though, that everyone the wilding zotters favored were duds at the polls.


69 posted on 04/27/2012 7:42:22 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: Raider Sam
Except that it is.

Let's go back to Florida. The RNC's own rules state that it is no longer a "winner take all" state. Gingrich had momentum from SC. The RNC refused to make a ruling. Florida was given to Romney and the press touted him as THE candidate. That has continued. Santorum started winning. What came of that? The press said "Romney has momentum!" They even cheated Santorum in Iowa.

Sam, have you missed all the shenanigans?

70 posted on 04/27/2012 7:42:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll pass.


71 posted on 04/27/2012 7:43:02 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: DJ MacWoW
The owner has made clear that Conservative FR will not support a socialist.

Well, in blasting the only option available, that is exactly what is happening. Those that are too young need to Google Ross Perot.

Those banned for various reasons know the rules.

Disagreement was not really on the list for banning, but sure seems that way now.

72 posted on 04/27/2012 7:44:25 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Raider Sam; 2ndDivisionVet
Who is afraid? Am I posting and answering? Yes. What I didn't want was to take 2ndDivisionVet's thread off topic. Others had different ideas.

Sorry 2ndDivisionVet.

73 posted on 04/27/2012 7:44:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ace of Spades
You want our money?

You've got money? Lucky bastard.

74 posted on 04/27/2012 7:45:38 AM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: Ace of Spades

This is a conservative, activist site that cannot support a socialist. It goes against everything Free Republic stands for.


75 posted on 04/27/2012 7:46:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh yeah. That helps a lot. (Not.)

Trouble is, to many, anyone supporting anyone but Cain or Gingrich is a “troll.” So keep encouraging good conservatives who disagree with your choice of political candidate to “be gone.” Eventually, Free Republic will be pretty sparsely populated, left only to the remaining mutual admiration society.


76 posted on 04/27/2012 7:46:52 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: norwaypinesavage

Exactly. I still give a monthly donation, but mostly out of inertia.

“FR wants my money, but not my opinions” - that’s been my prevailing thought since I committed the apostasy of saying Romney gave a decent speech one night many months ago. Amazingly, I wasn’t summarily banned, but the rebuttals were quite rabid, and really were a game changer in my attitude towards the site, of which I’ve been a member off and on since the Clinton days. Add to that my non-Christian beliefs, and a profession that many here strongly despise, and it’s clear I don’t really belong.

I still come here for the news and the often entertaining reactions to it, but I no longer believe the local denizens represent the views of the vast majority of conservatives I know (fortunately), and I certainly no longer throw the raw meat of any serious opposition opinions to the self-righteous who control things here.

Many who might have provided financial support have literally been run off or banned, but an even greater number, I believe, have simply been alienated. The folks who run the site - officially and unofficially - are, of course, free to do so however they want, but it is naive to then also expect, after creating so much divisiveness, that a wide swath of conservatives are going to pony up donations out of a sense of good will.


77 posted on 04/27/2012 7:47:28 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The past 2-3 months? Not really. I haven’t been posting much for fear of saying the wrong thing and getting zotted by one of the mods gone wild.


78 posted on 04/27/2012 7:47:48 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: MizSterious

I cant understand the mindset of people who celebrate kicking someone off of a website. There are more important things in life.


79 posted on 04/27/2012 7:48:23 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: SouthTexas

Continuing to support a socialist on FR is against the rules. There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR. Why FReepers want to help that goal is beyond me but they are being influenced.


80 posted on 04/27/2012 7:49:05 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: bigheadfred

LOL


81 posted on 04/27/2012 7:49:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Trouble is, to you folks, a different opinion automatically makes the perp “socialist.”


82 posted on 04/27/2012 7:50:15 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: DJ MacWoW

No, they dont. It stated that if a WTA scheduled before a certain date, they would either have to switch to proportional or lose delegates. Florida chose to lose delegates. But Florida wasnt given to Romney. The other candidates just failed to beat him there.

You can look for conspiracies in everything if thats what you need to rationalize, but that doesnt mean they are real.


83 posted on 04/27/2012 7:51:36 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Ace of Spades

84 posted on 04/27/2012 7:52:08 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Doesn’t matter. They are the in-crowd, we are not. I’ve seen a lot of good conservatives either get the zot, or leave because of the insults.


85 posted on 04/27/2012 7:52:23 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are. The second people started saying why donations were down, you tried changing the subject.


86 posted on 04/27/2012 7:53:36 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: MizSterious

Not me. I never take for granted that I know why someone was zotted.


87 posted on 04/27/2012 7:54:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Unfortunately the tipping point has been reached.

Asking for more and more money - from fewer and fewer folks. Many who used to contribute, both money and commentary, have left, been banned, or have gone into lurk mode for reasons that have been well laid out.


88 posted on 04/27/2012 7:54:33 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Continuing to support a socialist on FR is against the rules. There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR. Why FReepers want to help that goal is beyond me but they are being influenced.

That boat won't float. All the problems come from within this site. People know they have to fall in line or pay a price for it. These are self inflicted wounds.

89 posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:27 AM PDT by fml
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Anti-freepers and the left want FR silenced. Why are you trying to help them?"

There is nothing so silent on FR as the zotted conservatives. But at least it felt good to ban them, I guess? And celebrate with a zot thread after? Good job--anti-freepers and the left couldn't have done it better.

90 posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll pass.


91 posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:53 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: JoeProBono

wtc911 is a troll? Please, get real.


92 posted on 04/27/2012 7:57:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: MizSterious

When it’s only the in-crowd left, it will be interesting which of them will be targeted for the next purge.

With them it will always be:

My religion is the only true one.
My denomination is the only true one.
My sect is the only true one.
My sub-sect is the only true one.
My splinter group is the only true one.
My line of scripture trumps your line of scripture.
And so on.


93 posted on 04/27/2012 7:59:59 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: JoeProBono
FReep Troll-b-Gon

Wanna know why funds are down? There you have it.

94 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:31 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: MizSterious

I don’t get scared away. I thrive on it. As far back as 1984, far before the internet, I was doing the whole repartee thing in a worldwide forum with people who could skin a cat with mere words alone.

So I’m well versed and have enormously thick skin.

In the real world the most rabid here are a drop in an ocean. If they sit out the election because they do not find Romney palatable they simply won’t count. Theirs was one vote among millions. The rest of the grown ups will pick up the fight against this dictator wanna-be Obama and remove the stain from this once great country.

Romney clearly isn’t perfect but he’s no where near the anti-Christ he’s portrayed to be in here and by some zealots in the blog-o-sphere.

As far as fundraising you would need to speak with my financial adviser (i.e. wife). Good luck.


95 posted on 04/27/2012 8:00:53 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Raider Sam
No, they dont. It stated that if a WTA scheduled before a certain date, they would either have to switch to proportional or lose delegates.

You did miss it. There are no "winner takes all" states before April 1st.

Newt 2012 Statement on Florida Delegate Allocation

As noted by Chariman Priebus, “winner-take-all” states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.

96 posted on 04/27/2012 8:01:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m not sure people are trying to discourage donations—I think they are (rightly) pointing out that if the atmosphere here would clear significantly, the donations would go up. The zot-fests are not good fund raisers.


97 posted on 04/27/2012 8:01:41 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now that Perry's out, I guess I'll just have to vote for "Generic Republican Candidate")
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To: randita

I’m okay with ads as well.

I’ve always contributed in the past and have only delayed this go round because I am committed to speaking my mind and there are people (several) who immediately ping Jim when they reply to me.

Back in the schoolyard we would have called them tattletales.

Their aim seems to be to get me banned because I want to get rid of Obama and don’t buy their foolish rhetoric.

Why would FREE Republic want to get people banned?

Beats me.

I remember when Free Republic was a heroic bastion of liberty.

Remember when this site took down Dan Rather and protected George Bush from being crucified with a lying scheme by CBS (was it CBS).

Now it seems to be a favorite sport here to belittle George W. Bush.

What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on?

I have no objection to ads, but I have no objection to supporting this site with whatever pitiful sum I can come up with.

If I survive this primary season, I will do so.


98 posted on 04/27/2012 8:01:45 AM PDT by altura
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To: DJ MacWoW

Most people aren’t being influenced by anything other than there is nothing worse than Barack Obama. They do not feel this is the time to make a stand. Especially when conservatives didn’t have any good primary choices to offer. Sometimes you have to take small increments when you can get them and work for a larger goal.

One thing the left has, that we do not, is that they were patient. They started with Clinton and worked and waited to push the far left Obama.

People have kids and grandkids and they want the most corrupt administration ever conceived kicked to the curb.

That has a lot of sway.


99 posted on 04/27/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: norwaypinesavage
Many believe that Free Republic is now inadvertently acting to re-elect a Socialist devout MARXIST President. ________________________________________ There, fixed it
100 posted on 04/27/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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