Skip to comments.Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.
You aren't taking a stand. You are surrendering to liberal control. Romney wasn't chosen by the people but by a small faction of those in control. FR has drawn a line in the sand and will not cross it. We supported McCain. Do you really think surrendering principles again will change anything?
That is not what you are doing. This is a fund raising thread and you have taken this opportunity to take shots at FR for standing on principle.
Principles matter? Are you kidding. They are so fluid here, I’m not even sure they exist. Many of the “Go Newt!” crowd were flaming him as a liberal they couldnt vote for as late as last December.
Why are you supporting a communist? See how easy this is.
I AM standing on principle. You just don’t happen to like my principles.
This thread is not about any candidate. It is about supporting the forum that you use. If you do not wish to donate, or cannot, that is fine. Why stir the pot? Are you obliquely trying to discourage others from donating?
I support neither candidate. They will both destroy this country.
It makes you wonder: Why would someone donate if they could be banned the next day (and be insulted at the same time)?
Again, this is a fund raising thread. What is your objective?
I dont know, are you?
Romney was chosen by people voting for him. Its not some huge conspiracy.
I think that is the point. The thread is about fundraising, which is down. And this thread is a good example of why. Its a healthy debate that you seem to be afraid of.
Jim was warned years ago that banning and insulting his followers was going to lead down this path. He chose arrogance, pride and misguided principles (whatever they may be at the moment) over the financial health of this site and now he’s reaping the rewards. You want our money? Change the way you do business. Simple as that.
Unfortunately, there’s a lot of that going around. It started with beginning of the primaries, and has on occasion gone nearly rabid with entire mobs piling on—often led or at least encouraged by mods. I’ll never understand why conservatives so viciously attack other conservatives, simply because they favor a different candidate in the primaries. Whole threads celebrated the ensuing zots—without considering that they just (a) cut off a good revenue source, and (b) ran off a good conservative, whose only “crime” was supporting someone other than Cain or Gingrich.
It’s ironic, though, that everyone the wilding zotters favored were duds at the polls.
Let's go back to Florida. The RNC's own rules state that it is no longer a "winner take all" state. Gingrich had momentum from SC. The RNC refused to make a ruling. Florida was given to Romney and the press touted him as THE candidate. That has continued. Santorum started winning. What came of that? The press said "Romney has momentum!" They even cheated Santorum in Iowa.
Sam, have you missed all the shenanigans?
Well, in blasting the only option available, that is exactly what is happening. Those that are too young need to Google Ross Perot.
Those banned for various reasons know the rules.
Disagreement was not really on the list for banning, but sure seems that way now.
You've got money? Lucky bastard.
This is a conservative, activist site that cannot support a socialist. It goes against everything Free Republic stands for.
Oh yeah. That helps a lot. (Not.)
Trouble is, to many, anyone supporting anyone but Cain or Gingrich is a “troll.” So keep encouraging good conservatives who disagree with your choice of political candidate to “be gone.” Eventually, Free Republic will be pretty sparsely populated, left only to the remaining mutual admiration society.
Exactly. I still give a monthly donation, but mostly out of inertia.
“FR wants my money, but not my opinions” - that’s been my prevailing thought since I committed the apostasy of saying Romney gave a decent speech one night many months ago. Amazingly, I wasn’t summarily banned, but the rebuttals were quite rabid, and really were a game changer in my attitude towards the site, of which I’ve been a member off and on since the Clinton days. Add to that my non-Christian beliefs, and a profession that many here strongly despise, and it’s clear I don’t really belong.
I still come here for the news and the often entertaining reactions to it, but I no longer believe the local denizens represent the views of the vast majority of conservatives I know (fortunately), and I certainly no longer throw the raw meat of any serious opposition opinions to the self-righteous who control things here.
Many who might have provided financial support have literally been run off or banned, but an even greater number, I believe, have simply been alienated. The folks who run the site - officially and unofficially - are, of course, free to do so however they want, but it is naive to then also expect, after creating so much divisiveness, that a wide swath of conservatives are going to pony up donations out of a sense of good will.
The past 2-3 months? Not really. I haven’t been posting much for fear of saying the wrong thing and getting zotted by one of the mods gone wild.
I cant understand the mindset of people who celebrate kicking someone off of a website. There are more important things in life.
Continuing to support a socialist on FR is against the rules. There has also been outside influences at work here. It’s called trolling. The aim is to destroy FR. Why FReepers want to help that goal is beyond me but they are being influenced.
Trouble is, to you folks, a different opinion automatically makes the perp “socialist.”
No, they dont. It stated that if a WTA scheduled before a certain date, they would either have to switch to proportional or lose delegates. Florida chose to lose delegates. But Florida wasnt given to Romney. The other candidates just failed to beat him there.
You can look for conspiracies in everything if thats what you need to rationalize, but that doesnt mean they are real.
Doesn’t matter. They are the in-crowd, we are not. I’ve seen a lot of good conservatives either get the zot, or leave because of the insults.
You are. The second people started saying why donations were down, you tried changing the subject.
Not me. I never take for granted that I know why someone was zotted.
Unfortunately the tipping point has been reached.
Asking for more and more money - from fewer and fewer folks. Many who used to contribute, both money and commentary, have left, been banned, or have gone into lurk mode for reasons that have been well laid out.
That boat won't float. All the problems come from within this site. People know they have to fall in line or pay a price for it. These are self inflicted wounds.
There is nothing so silent on FR as the zotted conservatives. But at least it felt good to ban them, I guess? And celebrate with a zot thread after? Good job--anti-freepers and the left couldn't have done it better.
wtc911 is a troll? Please, get real.
When it’s only the in-crowd left, it will be interesting which of them will be targeted for the next purge.
With them it will always be:
My religion is the only true one.
My denomination is the only true one.
My sect is the only true one.
My sub-sect is the only true one.
My splinter group is the only true one.
My line of scripture trumps your line of scripture.
And so on.
Wanna know why funds are down? There you have it.
I don’t get scared away. I thrive on it. As far back as 1984, far before the internet, I was doing the whole repartee thing in a worldwide forum with people who could skin a cat with mere words alone.
So I’m well versed and have enormously thick skin.
In the real world the most rabid here are a drop in an ocean. If they sit out the election because they do not find Romney palatable they simply won’t count. Theirs was one vote among millions. The rest of the grown ups will pick up the fight against this dictator wanna-be Obama and remove the stain from this once great country.
Romney clearly isn’t perfect but he’s no where near the anti-Christ he’s portrayed to be in here and by some zealots in the blog-o-sphere.
As far as fundraising you would need to speak with my financial adviser (i.e. wife). Good luck.
You did miss it. There are no "winner takes all" states before April 1st.
As noted by Chariman Priebus, winner-take-all states cannot hold a primary or caucus before April 1, 2012.
I’m not sure people are trying to discourage donations—I think they are (rightly) pointing out that if the atmosphere here would clear significantly, the donations would go up. The zot-fests are not good fund raisers.
I’m okay with ads as well.
I’ve always contributed in the past and have only delayed this go round because I am committed to speaking my mind and there are people (several) who immediately ping Jim when they reply to me.
Back in the schoolyard we would have called them tattletales.
Their aim seems to be to get me banned because I want to get rid of Obama and don’t buy their foolish rhetoric.
Why would FREE Republic want to get people banned?
I remember when Free Republic was a heroic bastion of liberty.
Remember when this site took down Dan Rather and protected George Bush from being crucified with a lying scheme by CBS (was it CBS).
Now it seems to be a favorite sport here to belittle George W. Bush.
What in the wide, wide world of sports is going on?
I have no objection to ads, but I have no objection to supporting this site with whatever pitiful sum I can come up with.
If I survive this primary season, I will do so.
Most people aren’t being influenced by anything other than there is nothing worse than Barack Obama. They do not feel this is the time to make a stand. Especially when conservatives didn’t have any good primary choices to offer. Sometimes you have to take small increments when you can get them and work for a larger goal.
One thing the left has, that we do not, is that they were patient. They started with Clinton and worked and waited to push the far left Obama.
People have kids and grandkids and they want the most corrupt administration ever conceived kicked to the curb.
That has a lot of sway.