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Are you obtuse or ignorant? A) Mr. Zimmerman wasn't on neighborhood watch, he was on his way to the store when he spotted 6ft 3in Trayvon Martin scoping out apartments in the rain. (B) Mr. Zimmerman had a concealed weapons carry permit from the state of Florida (C) he says he was attacked by Trayvon Martin, knocked to the ground and had his head beaten repeated ly against the pavement and (D) he was asked by his neighbors to start the neighborhood watch. Plus, it turns out that Mr. Zimmerman has more black ancestry than your supposed "first black president."
1 posted on 04/27/2012 10:12:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Martin’s shooter, was unnecessarily armed with a 9 mm pistol.


If he had not been ‘unnecessarily’ armed, he would most likely be in a coma, or worse.


2 posted on 04/27/2012 10:15:55 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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Mr. Zimmerman has more black ancestry than your supposed "first black president."

Well, no.

Obama is at least 50% black.

Zimmerman probably is no more than 1/8 black by ancestry.

3 posted on 04/27/2012 10:19:44 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I agree. Why was a 9mm there? I carry .357 mag at least. Better stopping power.


4 posted on 04/27/2012 10:21:17 AM PDT by jrg
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>>Zimmerman apparently thought so, but I beg to differ.<<

The free exercise of a right specifically granted by the Bill Of Rights is not somthing to which you are allowed to “differ.”


5 posted on 04/27/2012 10:22:02 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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Further, personally owned guns are notoriously turned against the very individual who owns them.
Ah ah! Mystery solved!

Zimmerman was trying to shoot HIMSELF and Martin stepped in to take the bullet for him!

Wow! What would we do without our liberal anti-gun friends?

What would we do without their big giant brains to solve these thorny issues?

7 posted on 04/27/2012 10:25:38 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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I’ll tell you what, Jessica.

Why don’t you let me punch you in the face hard enough to break your nose. Then let me slam your empty head into the sidewalk repeatedly with obvious intent to cause grievous bodily harm.

Then you and I can discuss whether or not a gun would be a handy tool to have in that situation.

It’s writings like this that have convinced me that the voting age should be raised to 25 at least.


10 posted on 04/27/2012 10:28:08 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Someone posted (on fb) a pic of someone holding a sign that read "It's called a neighborhood 'watch'....you don't bring a gun to a 'watch'".

I think that was one of the stupidest things I've seen posted, and I've seen some pretty stupid things posted.

11 posted on 04/27/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by reformed_dem
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If Zimmerman didn’t have a gun he would be the one dead now and I doubt that Martin would be the one arrested.

When the idiot writer stated this I quit reading:
urther, personally owned guns are notoriously turned against the very individual who owns them. According to a study done by Director of RAND Health Arthur Kellermann, a member of a household where a gun is present is almost three times as likely to be a victim of homicide compared to gun-free households.

It is from a study done by Kellerman and after his work was researched it was found that he based his findings on false research. Even he had to agree his findings were false after admitting his research was based on incorrect data.

Anyone using Kellerman as their basis is doing so out of ignorance to the fact that the findings were proven false. Therefor the writer is an uninformed idiot using lies to prove their point.

Enough said.


13 posted on 04/27/2012 10:30:55 AM PDT by Jack Burton007 (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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"According to a study done by Director of RAND Health Arthur Kellermann, a member of a household where a gun is present is almost three times as likely to be a victim of homicide compared to gun-free households."

Wonder how these statistics, if true, are skewed by the presence of guns in drug dens and the homes of thugs? Lots of killin' going on there that has nothing to do with a law abiding citizen keeping a gun in the home for protection.

14 posted on 04/27/2012 10:31:34 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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Presence of firearm in Martin case woefully unaddressed
Yeah, that's right, Jessica.

No anti-gun lefties have even thought about criticizing gun ownership in this case.

They all were waiting for your Big Giant Brain to think up this idea!

They owe you a big thanks!

20 posted on 04/27/2012 10:38:45 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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While I do not deny the significant role race played in Martin’s death, a key element of the case has seemingly gone unnoticed – 28-year-old George Zimmerman, Martin’s shooter, was unnecessarily armed with a 9 mm pistol.

I smell some "unnecessary" free speech.

24 posted on 04/27/2012 10:47:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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I don’t know what kind of friggin fool wrote this tripe, but the fact is that if Zimmerman had not had a gun , he would be the one that 6 carried to the grave.


25 posted on 04/27/2012 10:47:17 AM PDT by Venturer
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According to the law, an individual without a weapon may react violently even if a gun isn’t directly pointed at them.
What law is that?
28 posted on 04/27/2012 10:50:17 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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Liberals live in a dream world. There are no “bad” people. No one ever needs punished. If everyone just loved one another we wouldn’t need anything. But, oh boy, take away their apple products and so help them, they will uprise.


31 posted on 04/27/2012 11:06:55 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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ALL VALID POINTS THAT THE LEFT CARES TO IGNORE....


32 posted on 04/27/2012 11:15:13 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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Dum dum doesn’t know what the second amendment is. She probably does not know what a constitution is. If something makes dum dum emote, it should be banned.


33 posted on 04/27/2012 11:20:51 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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That is the best argument I have heard on disarming police persons.


35 posted on 04/27/2012 11:30:51 AM PDT by OldEagle
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I posted this on the referenced web site:

“Regardless of Martin’s race and Zimmerman’s intentions, why was a 9 mm handgun in play? Is this a necessary weapon to carry when on neighborhood watch? Zimmerman apparently thought so, but I beg to differ. “

Beg to differ all you want. Mr. Zimmerman was simply exercising his PERSONAL 2nd Amendment right to carry a personal firearm. End of story. Still, it’s a good thing Mr Zimmerman was armed when Mr. Martin snuck up on Mr. Zimmerman while Mr. Zimmerman was attempting to enter his vehicle, and then proceeded to knock Mr. Zimmerman to the pavement and bash Mr. Zimmerman’s head into said pavement until Mr. Zimmerman was forced to shoot Mr. Martin in self-defense in order to stop Mr. Martin from beating Mr. Zimmerman to death. No doubt you would have preferred for Mr. Zimmerman to be defenseless and to be beaten to death by Mr. Martin.

I suggest that everyone who reads this post go make a post there as well.


37 posted on 04/27/2012 11:55:51 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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In this Country, blacks attack whites over... ONE THOUSAND TIMES EVERY SINGLE DAY! Hell Zimmerman should have had two guns.


38 posted on 04/27/2012 11:56:42 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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9 mm handgun in play? Is this a necessary weapon to carry when on neighborhood watch? Zimmerman apparently thought so, but I beg to differ.

Beg is what you would have to do for your life from a thug since you refuse to be a responsible adult and protect yourself. Good luck with that.
44 posted on 04/27/2012 11:09:19 PM PDT by D1X1E
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