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Cantor-allied Young Guns Network urges non-Republicans to vote in Lugar race
http://www.politico.com ^ | 4/27/12 | By MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 04/28/2012 11:51:23 AM PDT by Maelstorm

I reported the other day that the Young Guns Network, a group led by two former top aides to House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, is spending $100,000 in the primary between Sen. Richard Lugar and state treasurer Richard Mourdock in a bid to protect the Indiana incumbent - and here's what some of that mail looks like.

A lit piece that the YG Network dropped focuses, as they'd said it would, on energy policy - but it is targeted to non-Republicans, as it reminds voters that Indiana's GOP primary is an open one in which Democrats and independents can vote.

"Indiana does not have party registration," the mail piece says over a picture of a smiling child giving a thumbs-up sign. "You simply need to show up at your polling location on May 8, 2012 to vote for Senator Dick Lugar in the Republican Primary."

In case anyone didn't get the point, the piece adds, "You can vote in the May 8th Republican Primary election! The May 8th Election is open to all voters."

At other points ,the piece says Lugar, who is seen as facing an uphill battle against the conservative-backed insurgent, "has always represented mainstream Indiana values."

Republicans urging Democrats and independents to vote in open primaries was a major point of contention in the Mitt Romney-Rick Santorum fights in the Midwest in recent months. But in this case it's a group with ties to House GOP leadership urging non-Republicans to vote in the primary, and against the conservative favorite.

As Alex reported a little while ago, the establishment backing of Lugar is already showing cracks, with the American Action Network canceling its air support of the incumbent. So having a different group allied with the House leadership encouraging non-Republiacns to vote against the conservative-backed choice is almost certainly not going to play well with the base, or some of the Republican caucus.

There are also still ruffled feathers over the $25,000 donation Cantor made (he blamed a staff error) to a super PAC geared toward knocking out several House GOPers facing primaries.

Barney Keller, a spokesman for the Club for Growth, which has been laying down heavy cash on Mourdock's behalf, said of the mailer, “Regrettably, Eric Cantor’s actions confirm the worst of what grassroots conservatives dislike about a Washington Republican leadership that is more interested in protecting its own than in promoting conservative principles and candidates.”

I've emailed a spokesman for the group and will update if I hear back.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cantor; in2012; lugar; mourdock; romney; sourcetitlenoturl
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I sure hope that Cantor will distance himself from this. If not I'm done with him. I'm tired of not knowing which Eric Cantor I'm going to get. He's married to a liberal which is a strike out the gate in my book.

http://loop21.com/eric-cantors-wife-pro-choice-pro-marriage-equality

1 posted on 04/28/2012 11:51:29 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

How is a group called young guns focused on maintaining the career of a nearly century old relic like Lugar? Sometimes the blinding stupidity of inside the beltway thinking is just not comprehensible.

For a guy like Cantor who has invested his own career and legacy into passing policies like the Ryan plan and balanced budgets, he is now supporting the very person who is most likely to prevent it from passing the Senate


2 posted on 04/28/2012 11:58:28 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Maelstorm

My mother, a lifelong registered Democrat inspite of the fact she has hardly voted for anything but GOP in 40 years, will be voting for Mourdock.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 12:02:49 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: Maelstorm

This is very disturbing as the NRCC has been a rather well organized and effective organization and was not as notorious for doing things like this as other party orgs have been. The Young Guns program is supposed to be exclusively for assisting nonincumbents in House races win either open seats or seats currently held by Democrats. Now these funds are being used not only for an incumbent in a primary, but not even for the House - a double whammy inappropriate use of these funds. $100,000 is an entire media campaign that could have helped, for example, Jesse Kelly in the special election coming up.


4 posted on 04/28/2012 12:06:03 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ilgipper

Its when I see things like this that I begin to believe there is really an unseen game afoot. That individuals like Cantor really have zero intention of ever passing anything close to ‘The Ryan Plan’. I’ve sensed this for a long time. Maybe I’m wrong but it appears that their is a political class that never is what it appears to be. There are also a sizable number of GOP that appear perfectly happy with big govt when it is THEIR big govt and they have the purse strings. I’ve met Eric and I generally like him personally but I always get this ambivalence vibe from him.


5 posted on 04/28/2012 12:06:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: MachIV

Excellent! Its not that Lugar is a ‘bad’ guy its that his time has passed. We need Senators with the fortitude to fight with clarity. Some of them like him just don’t get it. There is never an appropriate compromise when our liberty is at stake. There is no trading game with socialists because they don’t have any skin in the game. They are demanding more and more of OUR skin and act as though they are doing us a favor if they allow us to keep any of what we earn. We will never win with individuals like Lugar, Hatch, McConnell running the show.

I was just thinking the other day how nice it is that we have some Senators that we don’t have to worry about. Would we have rather had Bennett instead of Mike Lee or Grayson instead of Rand Paul or Charlie Crist instead of Marco Rubio? That is why it is so important we hold the line. We can’t elect people who then we have to fight to get to do the right thing.


6 posted on 04/28/2012 12:15:32 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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That individuals like Cantor really have zero intention of ever passing anything close to ‘The Ryan Plan’.

It would appear there is truth to this. The various groups that organize at the DC level consistently seem to work against passing anything meaningful. My opinion is this....I am 100% behind the GOP in 2012. The Republican party is the vessel which is the best route to changing course. If we succeed at the ballot box and the GOP works against these goals after the election, I am ready to part ways. I do not expect everything to pass, but they must muscle through some significant changes. If we win the White House and win a Senate majority..and continue to send more good conservatives to congress...they have the political will and the wind at their back to do some good things. If they can't, it is time for plan B.

7 posted on 04/28/2012 12:21:18 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Maelstorm

Cantor and The Club, that willingly showed up at Blair House, for the “Health Care” conference with The Coffee Server.

This will be the group that will be pushing, and are behind Mandate-Mitt pushing State-Mandated “Phony-Care”, after the current one is declared unconstitutional.


8 posted on 04/28/2012 12:21:38 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Phony-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Maelstorm

The Neo Democrat party at work.


9 posted on 04/28/2012 12:29:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Maelstorm

Eric Cantor is an enemy of God and Liberty.


10 posted on 04/28/2012 12:51:20 PM PDT by Waywardson (Carry on! Nothing equals the splendor!)
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To: Maelstorm
How is a group called young guns focused on maintaining the career of a nearly century old relic like Lugar?

Because the so-called young-guns are establishment hacks interested in maintaining the status-quo and protecting their own fiefdoms. Cantor just wants to keep riding the gravy train and he has demonstrated that more than a few times. This Lugar thing is about protecting the regulars they dine with at the Hill Club so they can have some one to lean on for a reciprocal favor later on. McCarthy is just a mutated narcissist limb that fell off of former Congressman Bill Thomas and took on a life of its own. Kevin has the biggest ego of anyone I've ever known in this business, his agenda is KEVIN, more fame and power for KEVIN and that's all that matters. Ryan has made himself king of GOP Wisconsin and his goals are to protect his kingdom while riding the train with his two pals to see who can go the farthest, and climb the highest. You may hear them utter conservative mantras now and then but don't let that distract from what they all have already shown is their number one goal -- looking out for number one.

11 posted on 04/28/2012 1:06:53 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Maelstorm

I’ve always had a gut feeling that this Cantor guy isn’t really a conservative. You can just look at him and listen to his voice to get that feeling before you learn anything about him. In that respect, I lump him in the same category as Lindsey Graham. He seems a little light in the loafers, if you know what I mean.


12 posted on 04/28/2012 1:13:46 PM PDT by Chiltepe
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To: Chiltepe

“I’ve always had a gut feeling that this Cantor guy isn’t really a conservative.......”
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I’m beginning to get that same feeling!


13 posted on 04/28/2012 1:18:30 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Maelstorm

Distance himself?

How about Cantor coming out and tell them to stop!

I’ve long been done with Cantor and Bonehead.


14 posted on 04/28/2012 1:57:44 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Maelstorm

“Young Guns” (drumroll) Here they are:
http://www.creativedirect.net/team.html

Odd, Lugar’s been doing what he does for 36 years, and his opponent received the NRA endorsement, but the Young Guns are behind him.


15 posted on 04/28/2012 2:13:36 PM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: cripplecreek
Hmmm...Yes I would say we have a Civil War on the Right

One Side Real Conservatives

On the Other, GOP-E.

BUT, The GOP-E are liberals at heart and therefore don't qualify to be on the "Right".

So I am unsure how to Classify our current political war, How About instead of the "Republican Civil War" we have the "War of Conservative Succession"

Make no mistake people we are at war with the Liberals in the GOP, and if they aren't somehow defeated we will TWO Permanent Left-Center parties.

16 posted on 04/28/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by KC_Lion (A Romney victory means that the socialistsÂ’ takeover of both parties is now complete)
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To: KC_Lion

The GOP is at war with the tea party. There are still a few good republicans in Washington but they face a tough fight against people who hold the reins of power.

We really need to concentrate on a party leadership change. Personally I’d love to put Michele Bachmann in the speaker’s chair. She’s obviously tougher than Johnny the Jellyfish. That Preibus clown needs to go too.


17 posted on 04/28/2012 3:07:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Maelstorm
Cantor is part of Virginia's Republican Establishment that is backing Romney, and which went so far as to change the nominating petition rules at the last minute so that Romney was the only candidate.

You can expect all sorts of things out of that crowd.

18 posted on 04/28/2012 3:12:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

Why would you want Michelle? She’s clearly a Romney groupy.


19 posted on 04/28/2012 3:13:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Chiltepe

Cantor has been shot at by Democrats.


20 posted on 04/28/2012 3:15:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Whatever moron.


21 posted on 04/28/2012 3:16:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Republican Wildcat
As Mittbots and their cronies worm their way into more and more of the regular Republican party structure you will see more and more corruption ~ some of it of mind bending proportions.

What these people did in Virginia is instructive. They do not play by the rules.

22 posted on 04/28/2012 3:30:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/thanking-rivals-by-name-mitt-romney-embraces-gop-nomination-at-gop-gathering/ ~ get Michelle to REPUDIATE Romney and we’ll think about a reconsideration, but I’m sticking with what I said.


23 posted on 04/28/2012 3:35:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

I really don’t care what you clowns think. You’ve acted like a bunch of middle school girls through the whole election and I have even less respect for you than I do the democrats.


24 posted on 04/28/2012 3:40:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Maelstorm

Cantor needs to get primaried.


25 posted on 04/28/2012 3:43:47 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Maelstorm
Excellent! Its not that Lugar is a ‘bad’ guy its that his time has passed.

He's a gun grabber. Good riddance to him.

26 posted on 04/28/2012 3:44:57 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: cripplecreek
Sorry, the man and his rabble of followers came in here and took away the primary race.

He cannot be forgiven.

27 posted on 04/28/2012 3:48:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
What good would running the mouth do with some BS 'repudiation'? It would do nothing constructive. Bachmann didn't even endorse Romney. That says more right there. If Romney wants it, he'll have to work for it. It's a bargaining chip.
28 posted on 04/28/2012 3:51:39 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Maelstorm

Cantor is a disgrace, and must be removed from any leadership position. My problems with him started years ago when I saw his “liberal” wife with him on CSPAN and my wife told me “never trust him!” Sh has been proven right ever since.


29 posted on 04/28/2012 5:23:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Well, yes, but didn’t Reagan and the two Presidents Bush have liberal wives too? Nancy spoke out against Oliver North in VA in 1994.


30 posted on 04/28/2012 7:22:14 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Darren McCarty
Bachmann didn't even endorse Romney.

I think its funny that the ones the idiots accused most of working for Romney are the ones who haven't endorsed him.

However, there is a small handful of posters who happily went down the line to destroy every candidate with the same rhetoric. Bachmann made them especially rabid and they embraced their inner Bill Maher.
33 posted on 04/29/2012 3:50:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Bachmann was a threat to the cult of Palin. That is to be distinguished from Palin or even many Palin supporters. The Cult wanted the field cleared for when she ran for president, despite no indications that she would so. Therefore, the Cult had to destroy all in the way.


34 posted on 04/29/2012 6:17:20 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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To: Darren McCarty
Bachmann was a threat to the cult of Palin. That is to be distinguished from Palin or even many Palin supporters. The Cult wanted the field cleared for when she ran for president, despite no indications that she would so. Therefore, the Cult had to destroy all in the way.

And they gave us Romney. However I do think we had some party operatives who were here at FR helping to stoke the fire. I did some deep digging into the posting history of a few and found that they have 4 year gaps in their posting histories but become quite prolific when it comes to the primaries. They've fallen silent again.
35 posted on 04/29/2012 6:25:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
As you know that's not true about me ~ nor about you ~ but you're right, there are party operatives on these threads. Currently we are a bit short of Obots ~ which is startling. Four years ago the Truth Squad was already operating full time.

Is Obama being forced to husband his resources? THIS COULD BE HUGH AND SERIES!

Stay tuned for later events.

36 posted on 04/29/2012 6:29:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
And this, friends, is a statement showing the mentality level of what is considered a serious voter I think you should wipe the Newt Juice off your chin you pathetic democrat undergarment stain. It was child's play for Mitt's strategist's to create a successful web of deceit to dupe them to take over - not much going on upstairs and when it's done they will be none the wiser.
37 posted on 04/29/2012 8:48:54 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I don’t care what trash like you thinks.


38 posted on 04/29/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: presently no screen name; cripplecreek

I am living in Indiana. I will not support Dick Lugar because I have watched him in action. When I do write a letter to him, I get rude responses for not supporting UN causes.

That said any piece of nasty foulness like PNSN, should keep their foul pie hole shut lest they get Lugar re-elected.

PNSN is no “REAL” conservative. Just a hateful piece of garbage sent to us to ruin “real” conservatives.

A place in Hell is waiting for that person with their name burnt into it and yes PNSN, I am going to flash my “dirty pillows” right at ya once again. They are old a saggy too, you perv.

PNSN hates everyone, including his/herself. The feeling is entirely mutual.


39 posted on 04/29/2012 9:09:55 AM PDT by dforest
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To: cripplecreek
Here's what I think, that you are incapable of, as you did it yourself.

Mitt spends millions on attacking - Patriot ‘We The People’, Pro Constitution candidates - should be a clue he disagrees with what they stand for.

Pity Americans who rejoiced and took part in that action - they are left with a hater of all that is good.

40 posted on 04/29/2012 9:12:19 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: dforest

Not much thought going on there, dforest - Mitt supported Lugar. I’m with PALIN. You would be wise to keep your thoughts to yourself, since you counteract your own post. “A double-minded man is unable in all his ways”.


41 posted on 04/29/2012 9:18:02 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Palin has expressed she will be with Romney you fool.

I might also add that YOU and people like YOU are the people that ruined her chances. Who wants a foul and nasty bombthrowing hypocrite FOR them.

A person needs decent people FOR them, not foul shrews.

Big sabotage turnoff you are.


42 posted on 04/29/2012 9:22:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

Lugar was the the first proud “conservative” to latch onto the global warming scam by getting Lugar Farms listed on the Chicago Climate exchange for carbon sequestration.


43 posted on 04/29/2012 9:26:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

I sure know that. That is why I received nasty responses from them.

You bet I will be at the polls Primary day. That will be my “primary” reason.


44 posted on 04/29/2012 9:33:54 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Maelstorm

For NOW I won’t hold against Cantor what some former aides have done. But those aides, if they continue loyalty*** to Cantor, need to be reminded: what goes around comes around. VA doesn’t have party registration, either, and *some* might encourage Dems in the Cantor’s district one day to vote in a GOP primary for Cantor’s opponent.

*** such as loyalty might mean in politics


45 posted on 04/29/2012 10:05:33 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Maelstorm

Take a look at the SOPA bill (internet takeover) that just passed the House, the vast majority of those ‘small gov’ repubs voted in favor! We have a a big problem in DC and voting is not going to take care of it as they all approve of cheating!


46 posted on 04/29/2012 10:31:12 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: dforest

You are one dumb clueless voter - Palin endorsed Lugar’s opponent. You are TOO MITT MINDED to keep focused!!

As mittminded you proved yourself to be - you need to force yourself to be honest, it doesn’t come naturally with a deceived mind. THE Palin’s supported and voted for NEWT!


47 posted on 04/29/2012 10:59:48 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: cripplecreek
I don’t care what trash like you thinks.

Trash to you is truth that you are incapable of admitting to. Pride always comes before the fall.

48 posted on 04/29/2012 11:05:37 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I already knew that. Palin doesn’t need a totally whacked out freak as a fan. Get a life.

Go play with your snakes or something. You are worthless.


49 posted on 04/29/2012 11:27:58 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Maelstorm
I sure hope that Cantor will distance himself from this.

How do you do that? Blame someone else, say you didn't do it? We don't understand how it works? Those other guys are liars?

Which one of those positions would make you believe he isn't really a GOPe scumbag?

50 posted on 04/29/2012 11:30:35 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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