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Obama criticized in reversal on child farm-labor regulations
Washington Post ^ | April 29, 2012 | By Sam hananel

Posted on 04/29/2012 6:58:19 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Obama administration’s move to scrap a plan that would prevent some children from working in dangerous farm jobs drew sharp rebukes Friday from child-welfare advocates who claim the president caved in to election-year pressure from farmers and Republicans.

The Labor Department spent more than a year working on the proposal to ban children younger than 16 from using power-driven farm equipment — including tractors — and prevent those under 18 from working in grain silos, feed lots and stockyards.

The goal was to protect children, who are four times more likely to be killed while performing farm work than those in all other industries combined.

But the proposal was routinely mocked in rural states such as Kansas and Montana, where farmers often have their kids do chores that can include operating heavy equipment.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said the government should not shirk its duty to keep working children safe.

“I am disappointed that the administration chose to walk away from regulations that were, at their core, about protecting children and which could have been revised to correct some of the initial proposals that generated the most concern,” Harkin said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: farms; nannystate; regulations; statism
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To: alancarp

...or have ever done farm chores?


21 posted on 04/29/2012 7:32:06 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is only one goal; overwhelm the system.


22 posted on 04/29/2012 7:33:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Accidents happen. One of my sons-in-law has a job persuading farmers to install roll bars on their tractors. But farm jobs are extremely gratifying. Hard and demanding, but gratifying. When you finish the job, you can take satisfaction in it. And it is great training for life.

And family farms are the very basis of a strong and independent nation. That was true in the Roman Republic, and it has been true pretty much everywhere else that I know of.

Virgil’s Georgics gets it right.


23 posted on 04/29/2012 7:40:33 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m glad this was overturned, b/c we don’t own the whole farm, Mr. Cloverfarm’s parents own 3/4s of it.

Furthermore, it appears kids would not have been allowed to work with livestock including their own 4-H cows, heifers and horses.

That said, our kids work on the farm but WITH us. Middle son often rode shotgun with Grandpa, who could not get up and down off the tractor easily, and middle son would fix whatever needed fixing. That was precious time they spent together.

A lot of the issue is, kids will be kids. One of DD’s classmates was helping haul manure, jumped down, fell in front of a small (Thank God) spreader and ended up with multiple broken ribs. Another neighbor boy, same age as my youngest, went out to do chores — feed calves or something. He did not come in and the family found him in a collapsed pile of grain, suffocated. Apparently it looked like it had made a cave or a tunnel and when he crawled in to play or explore it collapsed.

We drove by that farm often on the way to church. The day after the accident his little bicycle was still out by the grain pile and that made me cry.

Our own kids have been kicked, stomped on, dragged and thrown by the livestock and had a number of falls, sprains, cuts and bruises (including a chain-saw kickback that ended up — thank God — being just a big long bloody scrape)

I’m glad we have angels watching over us.

As for those rules I think it was partially a good idea but badly thought out.


24 posted on 04/29/2012 7:48:04 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The dems want the jobs to go to mexican farm workers instead. Means more dem votes.


25 posted on 04/29/2012 7:48:52 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You’re all missing the problem. It’s not that farm kids might be injured, it’s that farm kids might grow up competent and self-reliant.

And that needs to be stamped out at all costs.


26 posted on 04/29/2012 8:16:26 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said the government should not shirk its duty to keep working children safe.

Hey Harkin, can you show that to me in the Constitution?

The government's only duty is to get out of the way and let the free market do its thing.

27 posted on 04/29/2012 8:27:44 PM PDT by upchuck (Need is not an acceptable lifestyle choice; dependent is not a career. ~ Dr. Tim Nerenz)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...the president caved in to election-year pressure from farmers and Republicans.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The child-welfare advocates sure didn't complain when he yielded to their election-year pressures.

It must be frightening to them to realize that they don't hold as much clout as they thought they did.

28 posted on 04/29/2012 9:19:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said the government should not shirk its duty to keep working children safe. “

Maybe someday Iowans could through this communist fossil out on his fat ass for backing garbage like this. They’ll re-elect him en masse instead.


29 posted on 04/29/2012 9:37:21 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The more unpopular of Premier Hussein’s Marxist social regulations have been put on hold until the second term.

Then, Katie bar the door.


30 posted on 04/29/2012 10:37:28 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: driftdiver
And how many kids are killed & assulted every day in the liberal, socialist cess pool inner cities.....da hoods? Black on black crime is at epidemic rates. How about if the liberal RAT bastards & so called "child safety advocates" (yah, right) would get as excited about violence, death & mayhem in the inner cities? I would be willing to bet that more kids are killed & assulted in Detroit, MI in one year than the entire US farming community, including adults & kids.

This was nothing more than another overreach socialist, RAT bastard demoRAT & 0dumb0shit power play that got shot down because of overplaying their hand. Fortunately even demoRAT legislators turned against 0dumbo on this one, as well as Repub legislators.

31 posted on 04/29/2012 11:15:19 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This was Øbama’s first attempt to collectivized farms so the Marxist can control food production.


32 posted on 04/30/2012 3:06:27 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) “I am disappointed that the administration chose to walk away from regulations..."

Fed up yet, Iowa? Harkin has always put his politics before the state's best interest. I have never understood how this bastard keeps getting elected in Iowa.

33 posted on 04/30/2012 3:09:31 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Valpal1
All this excessive regulation over 12 accidental deaths. How many "youts" have died from crime and gang activities?

Hmmmm. I wonder how many youths apply their training on farms to jobs later in life working for someone else who doesn't supervise them properly? When I was a youth, I learned how to drive a tractor at about 10, and was allowed to mow and rake hay at about the same age. My uncle and grandfather watched me at first, after giving me explicit directions. I learned to drive the family pickup truck to haul hay at about 13. Initially supervised until they were comfortable I wouldn't kill myself. So preventing youths from learning in this manner will result in fewer deaths? If allowed to propogate, this proposed law would reesult in far more injuries and deaths, ultimately, albeit at a later age.

What's next... not allowing children to ride horses until their date of maturity? They won't have anything left to do except play video games, watch MTV, and have sex. They won't have grown up with any sense of responsibility. This administration is batty!

34 posted on 04/30/2012 3:14:03 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (OBAMA!!'s name is all caps as sarcasm to indicate a lack of respect, as he does not deserve it)
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To: jdege
farm kids might grow up competent and self-reliant

And a work ethic.

Most of the kids I grew up with in rural Iowa got up before dawn to do their chores, ate breakfast and then went to school. They accomplished more before 7am than our union led teachers did in a full week.

35 posted on 04/30/2012 3:14:48 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: alancarp

These people left their children in body bags in an abortion clinic.


36 posted on 04/30/2012 4:23:20 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Of the 16 children under the age of 16 who died from work-related injuries in 2010, 12 were in agriculture, according to Human Rights Watch.

The article states that 300,000 children under 18 work on farms and there were 12 deaths. How many kids drowned in swimming pools or while practicing or playing football? Doesn't sound like there is a need for far reaching and meddlesome new government regulations. Maybe a bulletin from the Department of Agriculture stressing farm safety.

37 posted on 04/30/2012 5:20:40 AM PDT by Will88
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To: wbill
A whole lot more than have been killed by farm equipment.

Bullsh!t.

Since 1973, have 53 MILLION been killed in the US by farm equipment? That's how many babies have been murdered under Roe v Wade.

What, are you a shill for the administration or something?

38 posted on 04/30/2012 8:43:26 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: backwoods-engineer
Stop. Take a breath. Read my post again.

We're all in agreement, here.

39 posted on 04/30/2012 8:52:50 AM PDT by wbill
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To: backwoods-engineer
Reading comprehension is your friend.

A whole lot more than have been killed by farm equipment.

Means farm equipment is not as dangerous as abortion, get it?

40 posted on 04/30/2012 8:54:19 AM PDT by JOAT
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