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Obama Campaign Grapples With New Voter ID Laws
New York Times ^ | April 29, 2012 | by Michael D. Shear

Posted on 04/29/2012 8:42:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON — Field workers for President Obama’s campaign fanned out across the country over the weekend in an effort to confront a barrage of new voter identification laws that strategists say threaten the campaign’s hopes for registering new voters ahead of the November election.

Many of the laws in question — including the ones in Florida and Wisconsin — are the subject of legal challenges by Democratic groups who say they are part of a partisan, Republican effort to dampen the turnout of voters, particularly members of minority groups, for Mr. Obama and his party.

But senior aides to Mr. Obama said the campaign was preparing for the laws to be upheld and in force this fall — just in case.

“We have to assume that these laws will be in effect in November,” Jeremy Bird, the field director for the campaign, said in an interview. “We are not allowing laws that are challenging and put in our way to stop us from doing what we need to do.”

Campaign officials declined to put a price tag on the new efforts to comply with voter identification laws, saying the extra time and expense were being built into the budgets for each state’s campaign.

Four years ago, Mr. Obama’s campaign used novel approaches to expand the pool of voters, including registration drives at barbershops and beauty salons in African-American neighborhoods. The campaign plans to expand those efforts, setting up voter registration outposts in those settings.

If the new state laws prevent the campaign from reaching those goals, it could cost Mr. Obama a second term.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012votefraud; ballotstuffing; election2012; howtostealanelection; votefaud; voterid

1 posted on 04/29/2012 8:42:53 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If the new state laws prevent the campaign from reaching those goals, it could cost Mr. Obama a second term.

Poor dems, they're finally beginning to have to actually try and win elections without massive voter fraud.

No worries though, since they have a foreign company slated to count votes in the upcoming election, they can just commit their fraud at that level instead. It's not like the Republicans will try to do anything about it other than look the other way.
2 posted on 04/29/2012 8:50:43 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The fraud will be a multipronged approach to give Obama the votes that are needed in each state.

Illegal workers - fake ID cards
Challenge ID cards of registered republicans
transporting of voter machines
counting of votes


3 posted on 04/29/2012 8:54:51 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We have to show a photo id or similar id. when we vote in every election in Virginia. What’s so hard about it?

I have a govt. id, a state driver’s license, a state disabled persons id for handicapped parking, a voter precinct card, a photo card for doing research at the National Archives system, an id. card for my cardiac stent and defibrilator implants, AAA membership, insurance cards, car insurance card/papers with home address, letters from Social Security to me, gas bills, phone bills, cable bills, water bills/county bills, state tax papers, IRS papers, county tax bills, etc., and that is just in my wallet.

The elderly, disabled and non-English-speaking legal aliens/immigrants can all get official state and local govt documents without any problems. Those who already get social services from any level of government will have govt issued id. cards for those services.

Any claim to that “poor, minorities, immigrants, and the handicapped” can’t get a government id. is a pure leftist lie and we should call them on it every time it pops up, whether on TV, radio talk shows, in newspapers, or at meetings.

Don’t let the lying leftist bastards get away with this.

Also, you can check with your local government or state agencies about what ids. you can get if you need them.


4 posted on 04/29/2012 8:58:30 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The one type of voter fraud I never see mentioned is among college students. They can easily register on campus and also at their parent’s home, then vote the “home” location absentee and the campus one in person. Voter fraud laws need to be national with all registrations checked against the national voter database to ensure no duplications.


5 posted on 04/29/2012 9:02:43 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These laws won't "dampen" any legal voter!
6 posted on 04/29/2012 9:15:36 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“We are not allowing laws that are challenging and put in our way to stop us from doing what we need to do.”

They won’t let a little thing like a law stop them.


7 posted on 04/29/2012 9:17:43 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...the subject of legal challenges by Democratic groups who say they are part of a partisan, Republican effort to dampen the turnout of voters...

Nah, we'd just like the voters that do turn out to be living, breathing US citizens. Oh, and we'd only like them to turn-out once and vote just once per election. That's not too much to ask, is it? Hey 'rats, you don't want illegal or other non-citizens voting, do you?

We are not allowing laws that are challenging and put in our way to stop us from doing what we need to do.

Well now that's chillingly honest. Is he saying they'll basically do whatever they need to in order to get the vote out - no matter what the laws say? A rare bit of honesty slips through into their "for public consumption" message.

8 posted on 04/29/2012 9:44:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kellis91789
Voter fraud laws need to be national with all registrations checked against the national voter database.

I think what your'e describing is a secure national ID. I'd guess the US is the only first-world country that does not have it.

Unfortunately there is so much distrust of a centralized national government, national ID has never been developed here.

9 posted on 04/29/2012 9:49:34 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: Pox
Let me preface that I am no Romney supporter, but if he gets the nomination I will vote for him.

One attribute Mitt has, is tenacity. I don't think after campaigning for 6 years, he will just roll over like that damn mccain did when he knew the dems cheated big time.

I don't think the nobama bunch thought ahead that the SCOTUS would turn out to be his all powerful Nemesis and the unlikelihood the Supreme Court will not see Voter ID as essential to free elections. Not a good time to be dem.

10 posted on 04/29/2012 10:03:47 PM PDT by X-spurt (Its time for ON YOUR FEET or on your knees)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

After you sign up for welfare, take your check and open a bank account. Then stop at the liquor store, then buy a pack of smokes, make a return at Walmart, pay with a check at the garage, buy a vendors license, buy a house, get a loan, pawn your stolen bling, buy a car, buy a gun, enroll your kid in school, stop at the ER and then stop at the county office to make a restitution payment and a child support payment so you don’ t go to jail. Then if you aren’t too tuckered out stop and vote...and show the same $&@”?;/ photo ID that you had to show when you performed all of the previous transactions and didn’t say a damn word.


11 posted on 04/29/2012 10:23:31 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Democrats rely heavily upon both the dead and non-citizens for their votes; in the event that such non-citizens are disqualified in significant numbers, election victories are placed in jeopardy.

Thus, the effort to make sure such “voters” are maintained on voter lists.


12 posted on 04/29/2012 10:29:29 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wonder if we could post prominent signs at ALL polling places stating the penalties for voter fraud?


13 posted on 04/29/2012 10:40:43 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Fathom the Hypocrisy of a Government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen..


14 posted on 04/29/2012 10:54:08 PM PDT by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: XHogPilot

National I’d == passport. That’s the downside. States rights is another. States issue driver’s licenses. Not the fed. They’d let TSA take charge of it if feds ran it.


15 posted on 04/29/2012 11:09:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: XHogPilot

It wouldn’t need to be based on a national ID card. In each state, there is a Driver’s License or State ID card available. Whichever ID is used for voter registration goes into the database and is linked to the other number if one is issued, so people can’t register once with DL and again with ID.

I suppose people could still get multiple IDs from different states, but that seems like more trouble than most college students would go to. I just worry that it is ridiculously easy for them now to double their vote.

I wouldn’t mind if voting was by fingerprint or retinal scan, myself. That is the defacto standard for police ID after all.


16 posted on 04/29/2012 11:34:57 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If BO was elected legally, then there is nothing to grapple with.


17 posted on 04/30/2012 12:09:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In Washington State we have vote by mail only. I can imagine all the ways DemonRATs can stuff the ballot with fraud when the ballots now do not need to come from a real voter.


18 posted on 04/30/2012 12:13:00 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Kellis91789

...”The one type of voter fraud I never see mentioned is among college students. They can easily register on campus and also at their parent’s home, then vote the “home” location absentee and the campus one in person. Voter fraud laws need to be national with all registrations checked against the national voter database to ensure no duplications”...

Folks, this is the year to volunteer to help in the election if you have not done that in the past. Call and ask if you can help in any way. Let it be known in your state that you are concerned about voter fraud. Also, give money to your candidate..It has never been more important than now.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 1:37:28 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Eagles6

...”After you sign up for welfare, take your check and open a bank account. Then stop at the liquor store, then buy a pack of smokes, make a return at Walmart, pay with a check at the garage, buy a vendors license, buy a house, get a loan, pawn your stolen bling, buy a car, buy a gun, enroll your kid in school, stop at the ER and then stop at the county office to make a restitution payment and a child support payment so you don’ t go to jail. Then if you aren’t too tuckered out stop and vote...and show the same $&@”?;/ photo ID that you had to show when you performed all of the previous transactions and didn’t say a damn word”...

YES, YES, YES, a thousand times YES! What kind of dumbed-down brain would be against showing an ID at the polls? Only those with criminal minds who want voter fraud, that’s who.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 1:42:13 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Four years ago, Mr. Obama’s campaign used novel approaches to expand the pool of voters

Like collecting more illegal overseas campaign dollars then Bill Clinton ever dreamed of.

21 posted on 04/30/2012 2:47:27 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: jazzlite

To hear the ‘Rats one would think there is a large homebody population that never gets out to perform any transaction needing photo identification — except to vote.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 3:20:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: The SISU kid

That is amazing isn’t it?


23 posted on 04/30/2012 3:53:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: XHogPilot
I think what your'e describing is a secure national ID. I'd guess the US is the only first-world country that does not have it.

I don't think Canada does.

24 posted on 04/30/2012 4:30:31 AM PDT by expat1000
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25 posted on 04/30/2012 4:44:54 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
confront a barrage of new voter identification laws that strategists say threaten the campaign’s hopes for registering new illegal and dead voters ahead of the November election.

Corrected to reflect what true journalistic integrity would look like.

26 posted on 04/30/2012 4:56:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Pox

“No worries though, since they have a foreign company slated to count votes in the upcoming election, they can just commit their fraud at that level instead. It’s not like the Republicans will try to do anything about it other than look the other way”

They can also have more black panthers stationed at voting centers swinging their billy clubs and shouting epitaphs at voters since that has already been given the go ahead by holder and HIS DOJ.


27 posted on 04/30/2012 5:25:38 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Pox

Last time I went to the polls in WI (last month)nobody asked for an ID. I told them my name, they looked it up in the book with registered voters names in it. What really bothered me was that they wrote a number next to my name in the book, then wrote the same number on my ballot. I thought that elections were supposed to be by secret ballot.


28 posted on 04/30/2012 6:42:44 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; bcsco
"...in an effort to confront a barrage of new voter identification laws that strategists say threaten the campaign’s hopes for registering new voters ahead of the November election."

Bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha! Spewed coffee worth it for the laugh. As if no one knows the real reason that Demwits fear and loathe photo ID requirements for voting.

If Demwits have to present photo IDs, two out of three of them will be pictures of corpses. Demwits always field more voters than there are residents in their districts, and everybody knows it.

I'll say it again, "If you have to cheat, YOU DIDN'T WIN!"

29 posted on 04/30/2012 7:48:02 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady
If Demwits have to present photo IDs, two out of three of them will be pictures of corpses.

Well, here's two that fit that category perfectly. We should check to see if they vote this November...

30 posted on 04/30/2012 7:51:51 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Eagles6
What penalties for voter fraud?

Penalties may be on the books, but The Demwits, who haven't won an election honestly since the 50's, never suffer them.

Year after year, they cheat and sue their way into office, and not one of then ever pays the price for their crimes.
31 posted on 04/30/2012 7:56:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: bcsco

Yes, freshly minted Obama voters, all ready to vote three times each for the won.


32 posted on 04/30/2012 8:09:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

I kind of like the term “freshly bagged” myself. It’s pertinent in oh so many ways...


33 posted on 04/30/2012 8:14:15 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco

Indeed. “Freshly bagged” it is.


34 posted on 04/30/2012 8:55:33 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

How about “freshly bagged for a dumpster near you”?


35 posted on 04/30/2012 9:29:17 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco
LOL! Even better, but they'll still be voting Demwit. Thrice.  ;-P
36 posted on 04/30/2012 9:40:54 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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