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Sales of women and girls booms in Europe (slavery)
EU Observer ^ | 26.04.12 @ 18:21 | Nikolaj Nielsen

Posted on 04/29/2012 9:32:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Human trafficking is booming in Europe, the Hague-based Eurojust, the EU’s crime-fighting unit, said on Thursday (26 April). But the number of cases brought against traffickers is grossly disproportionate to the number of reported victims.

“Something is wrong; not enough people are being brought to justice. One thing is sure is that it is a booming business,” said Michèle Coninsx, President-elect of Eurojust. Eurojust, which coordinates with national judicial authorities on serious cross-border crimes, is aiming to get member states to bring more cases to it.

Despite the alarming numbers, Eurojust handled 74 registered cases in 2009, up from only 19 in 2004. Yet the United Nations estimates that globally, the traffic of human beings nets some €32 billion every year. In Europe, the overall profit numbers are vague but officials say the rise in trafficking is indisputably linked to the massive profit returns.

One indicator is the sharp increase of trafficking when Bulgaria and Romania joined the Union in 2007. Existing organized crime groups in Europe, some based in the Netherlands for instance, used the opportunity to lure poor and poverty-stricken girls from these countries with promises of work. …

A 2010 opinion by the European Commission expert group on human trafficking found that member states are not investigating these types of cases because other crimes are easier, less expensive and more practical to prosecute.

The same year, not a single member state provided statistics on the number of cases and prosecutions involving human trafficking, says Eurojust. Consequently, the unit is pushing member states to oblige them to report and better monitor human trafficking.

“The obligation already exists for terrorism, and we want that to apply it to human trafficking as well,” James Thuy, Eurojust spokesperson told EUobserver.

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; humantrafficking; moralabsolutes; prostitution; sex; slavery; whiteslavery

1 posted on 04/29/2012 9:32:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

People are obviously being paid off.


2 posted on 04/29/2012 9:35:04 PM PDT by wastedyears (There can be only one.)
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To: Olog-hai
Once upon a time, I thought slavery was very 18th century. And then I met someone directly affected by the slavery that goes on today in the Muslim world and Africa.

All slavers must die upon capture. Period. No quarter.

/johnny

3 posted on 04/29/2012 9:37:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wastedyears

As was the case at the time of our founding, much of the slave trade is run by Muslims.

Europe has made them a protected class.


4 posted on 04/29/2012 9:38:39 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Olog-hai

Is this proportional to the rise of Islam in Europe?

Is it “racist” to even ask?


5 posted on 04/29/2012 9:38:56 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: JRandomFreeper

On this subject I’m more libertarian than most. I think prostitution, as long as everyone involved is over 18, should be legal. Pimping, however, should carry an immediate and irrevocable death sentence.

Slavers should be drawn and quartered in the public square.


6 posted on 04/29/2012 9:46:05 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
I didn't cry when Dad died. I didn't cry when Mom died. I didn't cry when I was rolling craps on the side of a mountain in a blizzard and came within an ace of checking out myself.

But I cried like a little girl when I met and heard the story of someone that was directly affected by the ongoing slave trade in the Muslim world and Africa.

I feel very strongly about slavery. Slavers must die.

/johnny

7 posted on 04/29/2012 9:51:47 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Agreed. It’s happening everywhere, and it’s a protected racket. Educating young folks about it is a good first step. Further steps are best discussed in more private discussions.


8 posted on 04/29/2012 9:56:07 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Lurker

Ah, this is stuff of news because the governments want to be the pimps. THis is what the Fluke issue was all about. If the tax payer pays the bill that allows her to be purchased for sex, it is ok, you see.


9 posted on 04/29/2012 9:56:57 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JRandomFreeper

On that subject you and I are in complete agreement.

Good night, sir.


10 posted on 04/29/2012 9:57:09 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Olog-hai

"Your women. I want to buy your women. The little girl, your daughters... sell them to me. Sell me your children."

11 posted on 04/29/2012 9:58:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Lurker; little jeremiah; wagglebee
Fail.

Pimps have not been eradicated because they are an order of magnitude less a threat to the prostitutes than the johns and the johns significant others are.

Perhaps you might spend some time working at a shelter or rescue mission. You don't really have even a vague clue about the issues here.

Prostitution needs to be illegal not to punish the prostitutes, but to get them help in changing their lives. Much like laws against suicide.

And we haven't even touched on the diseases and physical injuries that of necessity go hand and hand with the business.

Moral absolutes ping.

12 posted on 04/29/2012 10:00:37 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wastedyears

Well, EU socialist secularists have their heads up their arses. How can you stop prostitution when socialism and destruction of the family is prostitution?


13 posted on 04/29/2012 10:01:29 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: familyop
I don't know why private discussions are needed. If I run across a slaver, he's a dead man. Period.

/johnny

14 posted on 04/29/2012 10:04:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Lots of Americans acts so outraged by slavery 150 ago in USA, but couldn’t care less about slavery in the world today.


15 posted on 04/29/2012 10:13:55 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: MNDude
It's almost (ironic) funny. The Republican party was started as an abolitionist movement.

I don't hear anything from them about slavery today.

/johnny

16 posted on 04/29/2012 10:20:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Olog-hai

Since I lost my wife 16 years ago I could use a good woman but somehow I doubt one that you buy on the black market could EVER replace one who would marry you for real love.

Just in case there is one of you out there that is available to be purchased and could (or would) be able to love and be faithful (as well as happy), please let me know how much the asking price is and we’ll work something out.

—— on the other hand I really don’t think that this could EVER be a real possibility.

Just not something in the stars, to expect love to come my way again - especially under such terms and conditions.


17 posted on 04/29/2012 10:42:45 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: wastedyears

When you end up as a victim in a Muslim crime situation, if you tell, they threaten to kill you and your family.

The justice systems are lax in Europe and you can bet that even if they get convicted of sexually abusing a minor, or slavery, they will be out in a couple of years to kill the victim if their dad, brother or uncle did not do it for them after the trial.

It’s a secret and brutal society. Brit authorities are afraid of them and afraid of the politically correct elite class that protects them as “victims.” They have no backing for the kind of force it would take to stop the Muslim abuse of girls and women.


18 posted on 04/29/2012 11:25:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: JRandomFreeper

>Once upon a time, I thought slavery was very 18th century. And then I met someone directly affected by the slavery that goes on today in the Muslim world and Africa.
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>All slavers must die upon capture. Period. No quarter.
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>/johnny

As horrible as slavery is; I think that abortion is worse*... so until we’re willing to apply such measures against abortionists, forcing capital punishment on slavers seems a bit hypocritical (not the EXACT word I want to use, but it’ll have to do).

* Because at least w/ slavery the slave is still alive; with abortion the aborted is not.


19 posted on 04/29/2012 11:38:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: jongaltsr

...”Since I lost my wife 16 years ago I could use a good woman but somehow I doubt one that you buy on the black market could EVER replace one who would marry you for real love”...

Ya’ Think? It is very doubtful that a little slave girl could ever have normal feelings of love for someone who has enslaved her. She has to wonder whether she will be cast aside or killed when she is no longer used like any other kind of toy. Without a doubt, governments have to be involved in the trafficing of human beings and children..We go to war for matters much less important than this. It could be stopped if those at the top were not involved in this “product” themselves. What a world!!!


20 posted on 04/30/2012 1:13:38 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: jazzlite

Of course, our precious children are human beings..I meant to say young adults and children.


21 posted on 04/30/2012 1:16:10 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: dfwgator

“The salads are fine.”


22 posted on 04/30/2012 1:58:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Lurker
Slavers should be drawn and quartered in the public square.

Agreed!

23 posted on 04/30/2012 2:04:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: jongaltsr

Head in the other direction. About 98% are devout Christians and speak English:

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com


24 posted on 04/30/2012 2:10:13 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Lurker

The trouble is few women get involved in prostitution without a pimp. While overseas I saw women being sold to bar owners. I ran across american girls who had been forced into prostitution and were too scared to even ask for help.

These girls can’t protect themselves and don’t exist without a pimp and a customer. BTW the worst pimps are usually women.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 3:16:37 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Olog-hai

Reminds me of an old W.C. Fields line, “Children? I like children, girl children, about 19 or 20”.

Seriously I use to work with a guy who went to Bahrain to work for 18 months. He has daughters and the gents there would seriously offer him vast sums of money to sell them his blond hair blue eyed daughters.


26 posted on 04/30/2012 3:38:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: driftdiver

More misinformation.

While customers are a requirement, pimps are not.

What is true is that freelancers who work a route of regular outcall clients rather than having a pimp or doing street and escort work rarely come to the attention of the gendarmerie or the press...unless they are murdered. This does not mean that there are not a lot of them.


27 posted on 04/30/2012 4:07:50 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

No its not misinformation. The vast majority of prostitutes are not the high class variety that NJ Gov’s visit and pay $5000.


28 posted on 04/30/2012 4:19:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: MrEdd

The cancer that inflicts the world is at our back door and it’s keepers and supporters are in high places in this country. Kaos is thier key. When they say we are at a crossroad they are correct


29 posted on 04/30/2012 4:22:26 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: driftdiver

I posted zero about high class.

I posted that much of prostitution is paid sex workers who go to the clients location, an who work for themselves.

I pointed out that this business model seldom comes to the attention of law enforcement. None the less, there are more prostitutes working that way than there are streetwalkers and bar girls.

Pimps can still enter the picture if the prostitute feels a need for protection from the johns (always a good idea working street) but with many sub groups the prostitute may not feel the need enough.

The violent pimp with a string of girls thing does happen, and those will be the easiest pickings for a john to find. That is, however, only the most easily seen layer of prostitution.


30 posted on 04/30/2012 5:34:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

Well I guess if we can’t see it then its ok.


31 posted on 04/30/2012 5:45:00 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I never said it was okay.

I said there is more prostitution of that business model than there is of the moreopen streetwalker model.

The diseases, damaged families for the johns, physical injuries and potential for rape or assault for the prostitutes remain.

I am not advocating it, just pointing out that streetwork is the tip of the iceberg, as it were.


32 posted on 04/30/2012 5:54:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Lurker
I'm pretty close to 100% libertarian on most issues but don't support fully legalized prostitution for any age.

The problem is that the “product” in this industry is always someone’s body and bodily orifices. Not their skills, hard work, personality, etc. You can keep a pretty girl locked in a room, even drug her into a stupor, and johns will give you money for a few minutes with her. The girl is reduced to an orifice with less mental value than many farm animals or dogs. If you mistreat a working dog or horse, they wont be of much value to you. If you mistreat a cashier, their value will go down. But a prostitute will always have value as long as she's warm.

It is much different from nearly any industry where work ethic, skills, mental health and sobriety matter. Yes, there are high end prostitutes with special skills, acting, etc but there are more than enough johns who don't care about any of that.

I think it should only be allowed with very close oversight of the prostitutes to make sure they are not exploited. The free-for-all you see in some places in the world creates an open door for slavery.

33 posted on 04/30/2012 5:58:40 AM PDT by varyouga
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