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Elizabeth Warren has no reservations on Native status (Is Warren Harvard's Ward Churchill?)
Boston Herald ^ | April 28, 2012 | Hillary Chabot and Matt Stout

Posted on 04/30/2012 7:06:16 AM PDT by Qbert

Elizabeth Warren said yesterday she is “proud” of her Native American heritage and indicated she had no problem with Harvard Law School using her roots to claim her as a diversity hire, but her campaign still could not produce documents proving her lineage.

“I am very proud of my Native American heritage, thank you,” said Warren when asked if she disapproved of the school counting her as a minority woman on the faculty. “These are my family stories ... This is our lives and I am very proud of that.”

The Herald reported yesterday that Harvard Law School officials listed Warren as Native American in the ’90s, when the school was under fierce fire for their faculty’s lack of diversity.

Warren, who will likely face off with U.S. Sen. Scott Brown this fall, said she didn’t know the school has counted her as a minority faculty member until “I read it on the front page of the Herald.”

Her campaign said yesterday it is still working to produce documents proving that the 62-year-old Oklahoma native, whose maiden name is Herring, is a descendent of the Delaware and Cherokee tribes.

They said the Delaware Tribe that Warren is from had become assimilated, and because of that there is lax record-keeping.

Warren, who said she was told through family lore that her maternal parents were from the Cherokee and Delaware tribes, said she could not “recall” ever listing her Native American background when applying for college or a job.

Chris Miller, a secretary with the Delaware Tribe in Oklahoma, said he could not find Elizabeth Herring or Elizabeth Warren listed in the tribe’s official records.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cherokee; dncresumefraud; dncrico; elizabethwarren; greatgreatgreatgrand; harvardresumefraud; indians; massachusetts; nativeamerican; resumefraud; scottbrown; warren

1 posted on 04/30/2012 7:06:30 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

Send her DNA to one of those dog breed investigation services.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 7:09:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Qbert

‘I am very proud of the stories told around the kitchen table when I was a child’

Yeah, OK


3 posted on 04/30/2012 7:10:39 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Qbert

She also gives them another diversity point for one more “ugly, arrogant, liberal she-male”.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 7:10:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (If Repub's paid as much attention to Rush Limbaugh as the Dem's do, we wouldn't be in this mess)
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To: Qbert
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

Dr. Martin Luther King

I too, have a dream. I dream of a day where any person will be able to get a job, not by virtue of the color of his skin, the happenstances of his heritage; but by the content of their experiences, their qualifications and ability to do the job.

5 posted on 04/30/2012 7:12:34 AM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Qbert
They said the Delaware Tribe that Warren is from had become assimilated, and because of that there is lax record-keeping.

Yeah, so much so that the DuPont family are members and didn't even know it!
6 posted on 04/30/2012 7:16:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Paladin2

BEST suggestion
“Send her DNA to one of those dog breed investigation services.”

so Warren says she can not remember telling anyone at harvard her’ family story”
harvard just out of the blue decided she had high cheekbones and must be indian?

This proves for sure Warren is NOT
She speaks with a forked tongue


7 posted on 04/30/2012 7:17:13 AM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Qbert
[ . . . ]the 62-year-old Oklahoma native, whose maiden name is Herring, is a descendent of the Delaware and Cherokee tribes.

It looks like this who thread is about a Red Herring!

The jokes write themselves, folks!
8 posted on 04/30/2012 7:18:00 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Qbert

Elizabeth Warren has no “reservations” about tribal status?

Is this headline hinting about Indians who live on reservations?

Who the heck writes these headlines? Is this mention of “reservations” supposed to be a play on words????


9 posted on 04/30/2012 7:18:39 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Qbert
It is ‘family lore’ in just about EVERY American family that there is some vague Native American ancestry somewhere in the lineage - absolving one presumably of the white guilt for us being better at warfare and enacting the historic trend of agricultural societies dominating and replacing horticultural societies.

I fell prey to it myself - thinking my paternal great grandmother was half Blackfoot based upon “family lore”.

Then I saw a picture of my paternal Grandfather's mother - and she was about as German looking a Fraulein as I had ever seen.

But I guess I have as much evidence as Warren - better count me as a “minority hire”!

What a crock!

10 posted on 04/30/2012 7:18:58 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Dr. Sivana

As I recall. Two Boston Fire Fighters were fired for faux Indians.


11 posted on 04/30/2012 7:19:35 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: libertarian27

The Cherkee kept very good records. I am only 1/64 & can trace back to 1750. If her family didn’t enroll or were not on any Indian census she most definitely is not qualified to be a diversity hire, no matter how many stories she heard!


12 posted on 04/30/2012 7:20:41 AM PDT by PoplarBluffian
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Is this mention of “reservations” supposed to be a play on words????

The only reservation Elizabeth Warren has ever been on is a mental reservation.
13 posted on 04/30/2012 7:20:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Qbert

Dances with Occupiers.


14 posted on 04/30/2012 7:21:16 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Qbert

"Hast du gesehen in deine leben?"

15 posted on 04/30/2012 7:21:55 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Qbert
Yep. she is an Indian all right. As a Harvard lawyer, she is a member of the Sue Tribe.

She should start calling herself Crazy Bitch or Slinging Bull.

16 posted on 04/30/2012 7:25:35 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: allmendream
It is ‘family lore’ in just about EVERY American family that there is some vague Native American ancestry

Exactly. I am as white as a bleached sheet and there is family lore in my family that my grandmother's grandmother was an Indian. Maybe she was, but for me to claim to be one is PC silliness. Warren is making an even bigger fool of herself in doing this than she already has with her positions.

17 posted on 04/30/2012 7:28:45 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Qbert

Does “Hippie” count as “Native American”?


18 posted on 04/30/2012 7:29:55 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: dfwgator

“LOYZEM GAYNE!”


19 posted on 04/30/2012 7:31:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Qbert

Everyone is part Cherokee. Just ask them.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 7:31:46 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Qbert

her campaign still could not produce documents proving her lineage.
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No credible hereditary society will accept her without those proofs...

Shes not until she produces them..


21 posted on 04/30/2012 7:32:29 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: PoplarBluffian

“The Cherkee kept very good records. I am only 1/64 & can trace back to 1750. If her family didn’t enroll or were not on any Indian census she most definitely is not qualified to be a diversity hire, no matter how many stories she heard!”

Yep. She apparently was also claiming minority status as a professor at other schools even before she was hired at Harvard:

http://volokh.com/2012/04/28/elizabeth-warren-herself-claimed-minority-status/


22 posted on 04/30/2012 7:32:52 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: pallis

“CHEROKEE PEOPLE....CHEROKEE PRIDE....”


23 posted on 04/30/2012 7:33:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Qbert

What a great rhetorical question.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 7:34:04 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Hodar
I too, have a dream. I dream of a day where any person will be able to get a job, not by virtue of the color of his skin, the happenstances of his heritage; but by the content of their experiences, their qualifications and ability to do the job.

A worthy dream...

25 posted on 04/30/2012 7:35:19 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Zimmered": To make a crime victim a criminal so racists can make money. freeper GrandJediMasterYoda)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Yes, always a grandmother’s grandmother - or otherwise far enough removed!

Unless I see a black and white wedding picture of a honky and a squaw - I ain't buying it!

26 posted on 04/30/2012 7:41:29 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Qbert
I am curious if she used her unsubstantiated native American status to obtain tuition funding. Her claim that she was unaware of the Harvard claim does not fly as prior to Harvard she was listed in a national professors directory as native American. That directory obtains its information directly from the professor. she is a fraud.
27 posted on 04/30/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: Qbert
"Chris Miller, a secretary with the Delaware Tribe in Oklahoma, said he could not find Elizabeth Herring or Elizabeth Warren listed in the tribe’s official records."

Shucks! I was thinking maybe Herring was one of those animal names like "Running Bear" or "Crazy Horse"--something like that--maybe Warren had something to do with rabbits.

Anyway, she could claim that as evidence. The press will back her up. Even "discover new evidence" to prove the Tribes wrong.

Elizabeth's not worried. She knows as well as anybody that the Left doesn't give a flip about truth; so the whole exposé is red herring.

Exposure of a forked-tongue never interfered with a Leftist powwow.

Massachusetts is like Arkansas. ('Scuse me, Arkansas.) (I couldn't resist knowing how much Massachusetts Leftists would hate the comparison.)

Remember when the reporter told that Arkansas woman that Clinton had had an affair. And she said: "I don't believe it." And the reporter said: "But he has admitted it." And the woman said: "I still don't believe it."

Truth is of no interest to the Left.

Much as they love to deny it--what they care about is WAMPUM!

28 posted on 04/30/2012 7:46:03 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Nothing is more enlightening than truth. Nothing is darker than mendacity.)
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To: PoplarBluffian

About 20-30 years ago, my two stepsons received a check from the federal government because their names were on the Delaware tribal role. So the Delawares also keep pretty good records.


29 posted on 04/30/2012 8:11:20 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Qbert

It’s easy enough to believe she’s a “Native American” as am I. Descended from Indian tribes? Another story altogether.


30 posted on 04/30/2012 8:17:26 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Tennessee Nana
No credible hereditary society will accept her without those proofs...

Shes not until she produces them..

...and yet Zer0 is still "President.".........(sigh)

31 posted on 04/30/2012 8:17:51 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: allmendream

I got one for my family. Black and white photo of a methodist minister and a full blooded Cherokee squaw on a covered wagon. They both look mean as snakes too!


32 posted on 04/30/2012 8:35:24 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Well good for you.

The vast majority of those making a vague claim of vague Native American ancestry don't seem to have one wit of evidence.

They apparently belong to the Wardahoe tribe like Proff. Churchill.

33 posted on 04/30/2012 8:38:23 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: PoplarBluffian
Ditto that.

Warren is a fraud to claim that she is proud of a heritage that may not exist and which she has not researched. The resources to do that research are readily available.

The lore in the family of my ex-wife is that the fellow that took them through the Gap circa 1820 was the half-breed son of a man who eventually became the head of the Cherokee nation. After much research, the only evidence I found that would support that claim were pictures of an ancestor of my daughters who certainly seemed to have Native American blood based solely upon her appearance and a reference online to writings by the pioneer himself that apparently claim that heritage. The various censuses and rolls of the Cherokee do not support it. I tend to doubt it, because the Chief would have had to have been about 14 years old at the time of the pioneer's conception. On the other hand, people were very precocious in those days, and one of the Chief's many acknowledged children did bear a name identical to that of that of the pioneer. So, who really knows what happened so many years ago?

34 posted on 04/30/2012 8:38:37 AM PDT by p. henry
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Warren, who said she was told through family lore that her maternal parents were from the Cherokee and Delaware tribes,

I wonder if that's a reporter's blunder, or if Prof. Warren really said "maternal parents."

35 posted on 04/30/2012 8:41:37 AM PDT by untenured
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That “family lore” thingy...

There are people who will say a great aunt said they were directly descended from George Washington...

Now since there would be lots of prestige and lots of societies that one can belong to who wouldnt like that ???

But then they want someone else to find them the proof..

Well of course there is none...

George Washington never had any children of his own...

He married Martha a widow with 2 children..

The line would go up from John Parke Custis the one child who had children not to George but to that dead husband and father Daniel Custis, and to his ancestors...

As in this case, whoever is in the direct bloodline ...

and I dont know of many Native Americans who havent proven their lineage...

We’re talking about a rich educated family who would have no reason not to have knowledge of their forebears and have some documentation or other...

HEY !!!

even 1/16 is only back 4 generations..

one of her great great grandparents would be Cherokee or Delaware etc...

Since shes 62 that ancestor would have been living about the time of the Civil War

Maybe he/she lived till 1900

How hard would documentation be to find ???

Im sure Who Do You Think You Are? would love to take a crack at this for her...


36 posted on 04/30/2012 9:13:10 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Roccus

Heres a thought too...

If her parent or grandparent were a proven member of a tribe she wouldnt have to go back that far to the original full blooded Cherokee...


37 posted on 04/30/2012 9:16:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Qbert

I’m a Native American too. I was born here - that makes me a native to America. I’ll start putting that on all my offical documents from now on.


38 posted on 04/30/2012 9:28:57 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: allmendream
It is ‘family lore’ in just about EVERY American family that there is some vague Native American ancestry somewhere in the lineage - absolving one presumably of the white guilt for us being better at warfare and enacting the historic trend of agricultural societies dominating and replacing horticultural societies.

I fell prey to it myself - thinking my paternal great grandmother was half Blackfoot based upon “family lore”.

Then I saw a picture of my paternal Grandfather's mother - and she was about as German looking a Fraulein as I had ever seen.

I was sent some old family apocrypha that contained one single reference about one of my ancestors having "indian" antecedents. I felt it unlikely that there were a lot of Native American women surnamed "Jones" in 1820s/1830s Ohio, but if all it takes is wishful thinking, well...

Mr. (possibly "Chief") niteowl77

39 posted on 04/30/2012 10:27:45 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The last Republican will vote to fund the rope that the Democrats hang him with.)
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To: PoplarBluffian
The Cherkee kept very good records. I am only 1/64 & can trace back to 1750.

I didn't realize that. I should look into their records someday. It's never been clear if the Cherokee woman introduced to my father as his grandmother was, in fact, a blood relative or a woman his grandfather had later taken as a wife. We don't have family records from that branch beyond perhaps two photos of his parents. They were too rural, too poor, too lacking in education.

40 posted on 04/30/2012 10:17:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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