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Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make
Country Thinker ^ | april 7, 2012 | Ted Lacksonen

Posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by Mozilla

Why am I so pas­sion­ate today? Well, most read­ers who visit here know the coun­try is in deep doo-​​doo. I’m here to tell you that vot­ing for Mitt Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will not change that fact and may make things worse. I will explain two things. First, Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the pre­sump­tive Repub­li­can nom­i­nee pre­cisely because he will do noth­ing to improve our country’s for­tunes. He is the cho­sen one because he will main­tain the sta­tus quo. That is what the GOP machine has cho­sen him to do.

Sec­ond, you can­not “take over” the Repub­li­can machine and turn it into some­thing in decent. I have made that state­ment before, but I’m going to describe the machine in greater detail. Keep in mind that this is infor­ma­tion I have obtained from cur­rent and for­mer GOP insid­ers. Every­one on the inside agrees that the Party has been con­structed so it can­not be taken over. They have also con­structed a polit­i­cal sys­tem so the polit­i­cal duop­oly is very, very dif­fi­cult to chal­lenge. (Repub­li­can insid­ers HATE polit­i­cal free­dom, like so many other free­doms.) Whether that’s a good thing or bad thing is a mat­ter of judg­ment. For con­ser­v­a­tives and lib­er­tar­i­ans it’s bad. For estab­lish­men­tar­i­ans it’s wonderful.

Finally I will explain why vot­ing for Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the worst thing you can do, regard­less of whether you’re a “prin­ci­pals” voter or a “strate­gic” voter.

If you are not one hun­dred per­cent con­vinced that I am cor­rect in those state­ments, you absolutely must read the rest of this piece and tell me where I’m wrong. I know I’m cor­rect, and I can assure you that if you vote for Rom­ney (D-Mass.) it will be the great­est polit­i­cal regret of your life.

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What is the Repub­li­can Party?

So what is the Repub­li­can Party? (This also applies to the Demo­c­ra­tic Party to a slightly lesser degree.) Politi­cians are not the Party. This is an extremely point to under­stand. When you open your eyes to this basic fact, you will see how futile it is to think that you can change things through the bal­lot box.

To com­pare the Repub­li­can Party to a car, politi­cians are the hood orna­ment. Money is the gaso­line, and spe­cial inter­ests are the dri­ver, mechanic, and gas sta­tion atten­dant. The rest of the vehi­cle is built of con­sul­tants, cam­paign man­agers, advi­sors, bureau­crats, media and mar­ket­ing folks, state and national com­mit­tee mem­bers, etc., etc. Within the con­text of Repub­li­can Party pol­i­tics, elected offi­cials yield the least influ­ence. The pres­i­dent may be the most pow­er­ful per­son in the world, but that doesn’t mean he’s in charge. Politi­cians who sin­cerely want to do a good job are deemed “Out­liers” and are given lit­tle influ­ence, or are openly attacked by the Party; see the sor­did story of Gov­er­nor John Kasich (R-​​Oh.) below. (Obama works off-​​script an unusu­ally large amount of the time for a pres­i­dent, which is why the Demo­c­ra­tic estab­lish­ment can’t stand him and can’t wait for his next term to fin­ish. Hillary Clin­ton will be much more compliant.)

The role of the Repub­li­can Party is to dole out America’s resources in the man­ner the major donors wish. The role of politi­cians, espe­cially the pres­i­dent, is to put a smil­ing face on it, which is why Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the GOP’s anointed one. The fact that he is so effec­tive at fundrais­ing should scare the crap out of any sen­tient being. He’s a hand­some, smil­ing bobble-​​head; noth­ing more. It tells you that he will exert lit­tle influ­ence over his admin­is­tra­tion if elected.

So the GOP can­not be taken over at the bal­lot box. You must move to Wash­ing­ton and evict all of those who com­prise the struc­ture of the machine. Good luck with that, espe­cially when you’re going to have to beat the money-​​men to pull it off.

Smart com­pa­nies like Gold­man Sachs and Gen­eral Elec­tric donate to both Par­ties. GS was Obama’s biggest donor last elec­tion cycle, and if polls show Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) likely to win, they will be his biggest donor. The rea­son should be obvi­ous; the firm and the other big banks wrote most of Dodd-​​Frank, and unsur­pris­ingly their mar­ket share has increased sig­nif­i­cantly since the bill was enacted. Had Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) been pres­i­dent, he would have signed it, too. (Addi­tion­ally, Bush and Obama have had thou­sands of Wall Street folks work­ing in their admin­is­tra­tions. It’s a modern-​​day spoils sys­tem, and Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will do the same.)

Thus, Nancy Pelosi’s infa­mous “you have to pass the bill to find out what’s in the bill” com­ment was actu­ally non-​​controversial. Repub­li­cans didn’t know what was in Sarbanes-​​Oxley or TARP when they voted “yea,” either. The powers-​​that-​​be wrote them (the account­ing lobby in the case of Sarbanes-​​Oxley, and the Fed and Trea­sury in the case of TARP), and yes votes were both expected and received.

The Faux Nom­i­na­tion Process (Pol­i­tics as Usual)

Every­one knows Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) was the pre-​​selected can­di­date, but the cam­paign hasn’t gone accord­ing to script. There was only sup­posed to be token resis­tance to per­pet­u­ate the illu­sion that the rank-​​and-​​file actu­ally plays a role in the nom­i­na­tion process. And as soon as he started feel­ing the pres­sure, he imme­di­ately went neg­a­tive because he has no pos­i­tive mes­sage to run on. “I promise to take your tax dol­lars and give them to my cam­paign donors” isn’t a smash hit with voters.

(Note that Gary John­son ran zero neg­a­tive ads in his two cam­paigns for Gov­er­nor, although I can­not promise that he will do the same dur­ing this elec­tion cycle. I will also admit that this arti­cle will prob­a­bly make him uncom­fort­able if he reads it. After all, I’m not only going neg­a­tive on Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.), I’m going neg­a­tive on the entire cor­rupt Repub­li­can Party.)

Repeal Oba­maCare? Not a Chance.

Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) keeps say­ing he will repeal Oba­maCare, but I hope no one is naïve enough to believe him. His donors stand to make BILLIONS because of the bill. They wrote Oba­maCare, and now they’re fund­ing his cam­paign! Do you think health insur­ance com­pa­nies are going to allow him to repeal a bill that man­dates that all Amer­i­cans carry gold-​​plated insurance?

The Oba­maCare “repeal” will go down like this: House Repub­li­cans will pass a repeal bill. Sen­ate Democ­rats will block it. There will be lots of tense moments and spar­ring through the media as the White House and House straw men and –women wage a wink-​​and-​​a-​​nudge “bat­tle” with the Democ­rats. Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will con­cede defeat and blame the Democ­rats, who will claim vic­tory. The Repub­li­cans will save face with their base by fight­ing the “good fight,” as will the Democrats.

Next, Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will take charge of “fix­ing” it. Democ­rats will con­cede that it needs improve­ment. Cam­paign donors will draft “revi­sions” that will ben­e­fit the donors, and both par­ties will agree to those amend­ments. There will be some token resis­tance on cer­tain pro­vi­sions to keep Amer­ica fleeced into think­ing that we have a func­tion­ing Two-​​Party system.

This may come as a shock to Repub­li­can loy­al­ists, but the Supreme Court is the last chance at repeal. Now that it’s in place, the Repub­li­can Party wants Oba­maCare as badly as the Demo­c­ra­tic Party. Mod­i­fied, per­haps, but they still want it. They’re in con­trol of way too much money to relin­quish that con­trol. There won’t be enough votes to repeal even if the GOP has a super­ma­jor­ity in the Senate.

(Trust me on this point—I have this infor­ma­tion from a state-​​level insider.)

Is the Tea Party Dead?

Anec­do­tally, the Tea Party is nowhere near the force it was in 2010. There have been few pri­mary bat­tles pit­ting a Tea Party con­ser­v­a­tive or lib­er­tar­ian against an estab­lish­ment can­di­date that have received national cov­er­age. Part of it is because it is a pres­i­den­tial elec­tion year, and Obama is so deservedly despised by Tea Party folks. Unfor­tu­nately, many Tea Partiers have climbed back in bed with the GOP and have fallen back asleep. The Tea Party is still hold­ing their offi­cials’ feet to the fire, but the fire has dwin­dled to coals. That is bad news. By and large they have been seduced into play­ing a los­ing game.

At the Lib­er­tar­ian Party of Ohio’s State Con­ven­tion last week­end, Nick Gille­spie of Rea​son​.tv began his speech with a pic­ture of for­mer Delaware Sen­ate can­di­date Chris­tine O’Donnell. It was from her high school years, and she had on a lady­bug cos­tume, and it was one of the ones the media used to smear her.

I agree with Nick Gille­spie that Chris­tine O’Donnell was exactly the kind of can­di­date this coun­try needs because she would have chal­lenged the machine and been some­thing other than a hood orna­ment. Many Republi-​​zombies com­plain that it was a winnable seat, and they should have nom­i­nated more mod­er­ate Mike Cas­tle. No, no, no! It is the Mike Cas­tles of the world that have got­ten us into the mess we’re in. Pick­ing a bobble-​​head because they have the cor­rect let­ter beside their name will do noth­ing to clean up the mess.

But even if O’Donnell had won, it would still take dozens of years and hun­dreds of other vic­to­ries to get enough politi­cians in place to evict the ras­cals who con­trol the machine, as well as a total restruc­tur­ing of the Party. That’s not going to hap­pen. It is the Repub­li­can Party that needs evicted.

The sec­ond prob­lem with the “Any­body but Obama” argu­ment is that not only is the threat of a sec­ond term of Obama overblown, the ben­e­fit of a first term of Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) has also been greatly exag­ger­ated. As I’ve already dis­cussed, he is not going to repeal Oba­maCare. He is not going to reduce spend­ing to a sig­nif­i­cant degree, and may spend more than Obama with divided lead­er­ship. He may back off some EPA reg­u­la­tions, but only if his money men demand it. He will add reg­u­la­tions if his donors request them. Let’s not for­get that it was George W. Bush who teed up the era of regulators-​​gone-​​wild, and Rom­ney will keep it up.

Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will be lit­tle dif­fer­ent than Obama because that’s how the Repub­li­can Party wants it. There is a very big pie to dish out, and the GOP wants con­trol of the spat­ula, not to shrink the size of the pie. Worse, we could poten­tially have eight years of Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.). If your eyes are open to what he’s about to do to us, that’s a more fright­en­ing prospect than one more term of Obama!

Con­clu­sion: What to Do

It should be per­fectly clear that I am advo­cat­ing that con­ser­v­a­tives and lib­er­tar­i­ans aban­don the GOP. As a card-​​carrying Lib­er­tar­ian work­ing on the Gary John­son cam­paign, nat­u­rally I hope you join us. But I want to make clear that I did not write this highly neg­a­tive piece just to attract vot­ers to the LP, although I cer­tainly hope it has that effect. I wrote this lengthy arti­cle because what I have writ­ten is true. I knew it intu­itively when I left the GOP, and now that I have spent time with cur­rent and for­mer GOP insid­ers, my gut feel­ing that the GOP is unre­deemable has been con­firmed. The Repub­li­can machine has been built so it can­not be destroyed at the bal­lot box.

So if you vote on prin­ci­pal as I do, you prob­a­bly have already decided against vot­ing for Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.). Per­haps you will choose John­son or who­ever emerges from the Amer­i­cans Elect process. Per­haps you will stay home. Any are supe­rior to vot­ing for the Governor-​​ashamed-​​to-​​call-​​himself-​​Governor.

If you are a strate­gic voter, the cal­cu­lus is dif­fer­ent, and it depends on what mes­sage you want to send. If you think Gary John­son has a chance, you should join me, because he’s the only fis­cal con­ser­v­a­tive who will be on the bal­lot. It cer­tainly would be an effec­tive protest vote. But if you still believe the Repub­li­can Party can be saved, noth­ing would send a bet­ter mes­sage to the GOP that it need to stop nom­i­nat­ing center-​​left pup­pets by vot­ing for Obama.

Let’s face it, a Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) v. Obama matchup is by far the worst offer­ing from the two major Par­ties since the weak-​​president era of the Gilded Age in the late 1800s. This is a shame because Gary John­son is the best can­di­date to appear on a pres­i­den­tial bal­lot in a long, long time. (He is the LP’s pre­sump­tive nom­i­nee, gar­ner­ing 80–90% of the vote in straw polls at state con­ven­tions.) Per­haps between now and then he will get the trac­tion to make it a com­pet­i­tive battle.

But I am urg­ing con­ser­v­a­tives and lib­er­tar­i­ans: DO NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY (D-​​MASS.)! You will be assist­ing the cor­rupt machine that despises you, and you will be help­ing to install a pup­pet who will ensure that con­ser­vatism is kept in check at the fed­eral level. You will be vot­ing against every­thing you hold dear.

There is a whole lot more in this explosive Article. Amen. It says everything I have been thinking and more.

1 posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:44 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Mozilla

I’m with you; let’s all work to re-elect President Obama.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:31 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mozilla

“I think the old standby definitions of who votes for which party have been blown away in this campaign. I think people recognize that I’m not a partisan Republican—that I’m someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.”
-Mitt Romney (2002)

Video of the quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcjJEXt9To

Obama continued: “I am somebody who is no doubt progressive. I believe in a tax code that we need to make more fair. I believe in universal health care. I believe in making college affordable. I believe in paying our teachers more money. I believe in early childhood education. I believe in a whole lot of things that make me progressive.”
-Barack Obama
http://www.progressive.org/mag/nichols0109.html


3 posted on 04/30/2012 9:18:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mozilla

Compared to keeping Obama in office?

Tough call.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 9:19:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1196 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [and what dark chill/is gathering still...])
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To: Mozilla

Yeah right, stay home and get used to saying “Justice Eric Holder”.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 9:20:10 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mozilla

Yeah right, stay home and get used to saying “Justice Eric Holder”.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 9:20:29 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mozilla
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7 posted on 04/30/2012 9:20:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mozilla

Are you the same person that posted the editorials: “Voting for Herman Cain — The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could make,” and “Voting for Perry — The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could make,” and “Voting for Gingrich — The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could make,” and “Voting for Santorum — The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could make”? Good Lord, give it a break. I’m a conservative and I’m not walking, I’m running to the polls to vote for Romney...if he’s the nominee.


8 posted on 04/30/2012 9:22:23 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Mozilla; All
No one else is running !

This has got to be the stupidest attitude ever in FreeRepublic.

Newt's out, Santorum's out, Paul was never in ...

Yeah, sure Romney sucks, but ANY vote not for Romney is a zero vote.

Or is that what is being fomented here ... revolution?

9 posted on 04/30/2012 9:22:39 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Mr. Lucky
If you think Gary John­son has a chance, you should join me...

Who is Gary Johnson?

10 posted on 04/30/2012 9:22:58 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mozilla

Do you have a realistic solution that will prevent both Romney and Obama from becoming the next president?


11 posted on 04/30/2012 9:22:58 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Mr. Lucky

“let’s all work to re-elect President Obama”

That’s the worse mistake anyone can make, Republican or Democrat!


12 posted on 04/30/2012 9:23:46 AM PDT by Rock N Jones
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To: Ge0ffrey

Enjoy the 8 years of anti-conservative Romney if Obama doesn’t get back in. I for one will fight the rinos all the way.


13 posted on 04/30/2012 9:27:11 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Where do these clowns come from, who believe America can survive an Obama 2nd term?

How do they contend that the congress that would constrain Obama, would empower Romney?

Obama has demonstrated his willingness to endrun congress and the courts...and he WILL destroy America!


14 posted on 04/30/2012 9:28:06 AM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: stuartcr

No because the system is rigged. Only solution is to fight the system.


15 posted on 04/30/2012 9:28:32 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mozilla

Sorry Mozilla, I WOULD VOTE FOR MR. POTATO HEAD OVER OBAMA!


16 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:10 AM PDT by Dawebman (I WOULD VOTE FOR MR. POTATO HEAD OVER OBAMA!)
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To: Mozilla

Sorry Mozilla, I WOULD VOTE FOR MR. POTATO HEAD OVER OBAMA!


17 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:15 AM PDT by Dawebman (I WOULD VOTE FOR MR. POTATO HEAD OVER OBAMA!)
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To: Mozilla

The choice has been narrowed down. I’m not supporting obama — will take my chances with Romney.


18 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:40 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. Romney is hijacking the party with brad of fake republicans.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 9:32:11 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes. Romney is hijacking the party with brand of fake republicans.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 9:32:32 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: G Larry

Where do these clowns come from, who believe America can survive an Obama 2nd term?

How do they contend that the congress that would constrain Obama, would empower Romney?

Obama has demonstrated his willingness to endrun congress and the courts...and he WILL destroy America!


Exactly!


21 posted on 04/30/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Mozilla

Obama and Romney - two sides of the same coin.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 9:33:53 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Dawebman

This is, of course, exactly what the Establishment wants - “compliant conservatives” - which you faithfully deliver.

Thanks to your willing compliance, the Establishment can confidently run whomever “moderate” (read progressive) candidate they choose. Meaning they have no reason whatsoever to change their ways.

Why would Republicans follow through on their empty rhetoric to limit government when they know full-well you’ll vote for them anyway to stick it to the left.

Plain and simple. A vote for Romney is a vote for Big Government and approval of the “GOP’s War On Conservatism”.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 9:37:19 AM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party 2012)
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To: Mozilla

Well good for you.
Get right in there and start a revolt.

I empathize with your frustration but
Ya plays the hand ya been dealt.
There is nothing worse than Obumo— period.
Nothing.
Reality got it’s name for a reason.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 9:37:19 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Mozilla

In NH Romney just said, he would of course had ordered the Bin laden killing and best line,”even Jimmy Carter would have given the order.”
More of a fight than the entire campaign by McCain in 2008.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 9:38:00 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Mr. Lucky
Exactly. Do any of these hate Romney zealots understand that there are three Supreme Court Justices over 75, one is 81, it's a good chance that if Obama is in another four years he will be sitting three new Commie judges on that court. Would not you people rather have Romney picking them? Hey, I'm a Newt man myself (actually a Sara Palin man) but I'm not stupid enough to just let the Clown screw us for another term. I suggest you people drop your righteous pride and Vote for anyone but Obama.
26 posted on 04/30/2012 9:42:28 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Mozilla

What the hell are you smoking ???


27 posted on 04/30/2012 9:44:25 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: Mozilla

Amen to that. Voting for Romney (D-MA) abets the lurch-leftward tendency of the soon-to-be extinct GOP.

Hopefully, enough conservatives will keep Obama`s white half out of the WH. He has no base or core values, and he generates no excitement. I commute to work 35 miles each way and have yet to see a single “Romney” bumper sticker.

Fellow conservatives, D vs R a false choice.. Romney is going to be crushed in November.. let`s all make the move to a new “home.”
For me, it`s the Constitution Party. Our nominee is Virgil Goode. And voting for the first bona fide conservative since Reagan is a great thing!


28 posted on 04/30/2012 9:44:32 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: Mozilla
I for one will fight the rinos all the way.

Oh, please...why don't you just share an outline of your plan to do that? Just give us a little hint...throw us a bone!

Aside from Obama, for the liberal/progressive/socialist movement, candidates don't just materialize out of thin air. There are establishments in place, for better or worse, and you're not going to change those.

The best thing we conservatives have, are movements like the Tea Party. We can pick good candidates at the local level, and vote them into our government. Hopefully, they stay true to the cause, and remember who their constituents are. Third parties do not work. Even if you could get one elected...say to the House of Representatives, then what? Without being on the right committee, they are powerless. They will not get on the right committee unless they form alliances, and hope they can get some "conservative" ideas in from there.

Anyone who disagrees with that shows a terrible ignorance of how our system of government works, nor the limitations of our Constitution. You must work from within, and you must accept small victories along the way: incrementalism.

Romney may not be the best answer, but he's the only candidate right now, who's at least reaching out to listen to the more conservative of us, and that includes the Tea Party. We will NOT get that ear with Obama.

29 posted on 04/30/2012 9:44:46 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: fish hawk

Obama=suicide. Romney=Live to fight another day. Stay Home=The first result.
Its no longer about pride. It’s no longer about options. Let the Kenyan back in and this nation will cease to exist as we know it. If Romney wants a second term then he’ll have to play ball with the right. We can work to deny him a second one.


30 posted on 04/30/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: stuartcr
Do you have a realistic solution that will prevent both Romney and Obama from becoming the next president?

I believe holding one's breath until one turns blue is the popular response. Kicking and pounding one's fists into the floor is a close second. I'm not sure how realistic those solutions are, but I keep seeing them employed.

31 posted on 04/30/2012 9:51:21 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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To: Mozilla
There won’t be enough votes to repeal even if the GOP has a super­ma­jor­ity in the Senate.

I have said that for a long time.

The sec­ond prob­lem with the “Any­body but Obama” argu­ment is that not only is the threat of a sec­ond term of Obama overblown,

Baloney. That would not be possible to do.

the ben­e­fit of a first term of Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) has also been greatly exag­ger­ated.

By whom? Pretty much everyone knows that there is no "benefit" to Romney. He will, at best, be not quite as bad as Obama. Even the GOP elite know there will be no significant benefit for *us*, the country, but for *them* the elite, yeah Romney is good.

The problem we face is that we lose no matter what. Guaranteed. Even if the libertarian candidate got 30 million votes, we are still going to a socialist (R) or a Marxist (D). I honestly don't know that we have any hope at all.

32 posted on 04/30/2012 9:51:46 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: ScottinVA

I’m all in for a 3rd party after this election. There’s simply no time now to mount a serious challenge. I simply don’t believe i have the luxury to cast a protest vote.


33 posted on 04/30/2012 9:51:46 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Mozilla
And how will you feel in the future when you see six or seven far left liberal Commie judges on the supreme court taking our country down. You can pat yourself on the back and say, My self righteous principled ego helped get us here. People like you don't think and that is our greatest danger.

"I don't care what you say Mr. Fish Hawk, I have principles and by golly I'm going to stick with them" (pure stupidity)

34 posted on 04/30/2012 9:52:35 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: Last Dakotan; Mozilla

Gary Johnson is the former Governor of New Mexico. He is or will be the Libertarian candidate for pres. There is a small chance his campaign could gain traction. Lots of people are unhappy with both the Ds and Rs so Gary Johnson is definitely worth taking a look at. He was running for the GOP nomination but the GOPe locked him out of the process. Right now the only viable alternative to Miit is Paul in the GOP or Johnson in the LP. If Johnson can get to 15% before Sept 15, he becomes a real player in the 2012 election.


35 posted on 04/30/2012 9:54:13 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Ge0ffrey
It's no brainer that Romney is better in every way than the Obamantion. And that's an assessment of the Great Usurper, not praise of Romney. Obama is a disaster and must be replaced!! A cheese sandwich would be better.
36 posted on 04/30/2012 9:55:51 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Mozilla
Plain and simple. A vote for Romney is a vote for Big Government and approval of the “GOP’s War On Conservatism.”

And you suggest?

37 posted on 04/30/2012 9:58:56 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Dawebman
I WOULD VOTE FOR MR. POTATO HEAD OVER OBAMA!

I've been saying Elmer Fudd, but Mr. Potato head is a good choice too.

38 posted on 04/30/2012 9:58:56 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Dawebman

I would vote for Mr. Potato Head over Romney, too.


39 posted on 04/30/2012 10:01:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Mr. Lucky

“I’m with you; let’s all work to re-elect President Obama.”

That is just hat I was thinking. I’ll vote for someone else in the primary, just to make a statement. By then, Romney will already be the candidate on the Republican ticket. In the general election, I will hold my nose and vote for Romney, because as bad as he is, he is better than Obama.


40 posted on 04/30/2012 10:02:47 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: Mozilla

You go ahead and campaign for Obama. I’m voting for Romney. I’m trying to save our country. Any conservative that doesn’t vote for Romney is killing our country along with the rest of Obama’s communist cronies. Do I like Romney? No. Do I think he’s conservative. I know he’s Not. But OMG it’s a no brainer. How can anyone even consider not voting for whomever is running agains Obama? I think you are really an Obama supporter anyway...just posing as a conservative to sway people to your side.


41 posted on 04/30/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by ladymac
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To: Mozilla
If you are not one hun­dred per­cent con­vinced that I am cor­rect in those state­ments, you absolutely must read the rest of this piece and tell me where I’m wrong. I know I’m cor­rect, and I can assure you that if you vote for Rom­ney (D-Mass.) it will be the great­est polit­i­cal regret of your life.

MittWitts: "Na na na na! Can't hear you!"

RomneyBots on FR: "Don't listen to JimRob! You KNOW, if you don't vote for Romney, you'll be re-electing Obama - and it will be ALL YOUR FAULT!"


42 posted on 04/30/2012 10:03:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: FatherofFive

It’s come down to Mr. Potato Head, Elmer Fudd, and a cheese or ham sandwich over Obama. A cockroach is in a dead heat with the messiah.


43 posted on 04/30/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: knarf
Same thing happened last cycle with the "Too pure Conservatives not being able to vote for that RINO McCain" blah, blah, blah.

That worked out real well didn't it?

I'd vote for Hillary, Kerry, hell, I'd vote for Edwards if given the chance over the flop-eared P.O.S. that's infesting the WH today.

44 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:29 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: knarf

“No one else is running !

This has got to be the stupidest attitude ever in FreeRepublic.

Newt’s out, Santorum’s out, Paul was never in ...

Yeah, sure Romney sucks, but ANY vote not for Romney is a zero vote.”

ON WHICH planet have you been, when Romney was crucifying Gingrich and Santorum with dozens of millions dollars of slanderous ads, and the active approval of the degenerate GOP establishment?

A vote for Romney would be a betrayal of our conservative principles, dear to FReepers. Obviously, you can spit or don’t have any principle to defend.


45 posted on 04/30/2012 10:08:46 AM PDT by Marguerite (When I'm good, I am very, very good. But! When I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: wiggen

I respect that position, but the only way to grab the GOP’s attention seems to be to go for maximum impact. I didn’t come by this decision easily.


46 posted on 04/30/2012 10:11:00 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: Mozilla
Four more years of Obamah would be just peachy keen!

Are you nuts?????

47 posted on 04/30/2012 10:12:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: fish hawk

Surely you’re not saying that sticking by one’s principles is stupidity. Isn’t that what true conservatism is all about? Living by a set of principles and keeping one’s word “even when it hurts”?


48 posted on 04/30/2012 10:12:50 AM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Mozilla

I’m laughing at the fools who so eagerly will drink the poison trap being served to them by the Ruling Class GOP working in League with Obama, who chose Romney as the nominee along with Obama’s MSM.

They are truly an example of dupes, having been so indoctrinated into the system itself, they cannot fathom any other way to deal with the fear of Obama, than to elect the opponent HE and the GOP-e have served them with.

Liberty or death? No. Too few willing to take the same risks our forbears did and think outside the box being served to them by the Crown.

So they, like all dupes will pull the lever for Romney and erroneously think they are saving the country - because that’s the narrative the Ruling Class has established.

Look how eagerly they lap it up, all out of fear of Obama.

If Conservative principles don’t mean a tinker’s damn than political expedience, anyone voting for Romney was never really a Conservative in the first place. Just a closet RINO, willing to bend over for the Marxofascists just like the leadership hacks they empower and then complain about.


49 posted on 04/30/2012 10:14:48 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Marguerite
ON WHICH planet have you been, when Romney was crucifying Gingrich and Santorum with dozens of millions dollars of slanderous ads

They dished it out pretty well too early on. Santorum bashed him daily and viciously (and rightfully so) on Romneycare. It's ridiculous to say the ads had an effect on the way conservatives voted. That's like saying conservative voters were uninformed and stupid enough to be swayed by the ads. How do you explain the conservative vote for Romney in the exit polls?

50 posted on 04/30/2012 10:15:00 AM PDT by jersey117
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