Report: Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US

Newsmax ^ | Monday, 30 Apr 2012 02:58 PM | Newsmax Wires

[Olog-hai]

A new report from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) shows that more than more than 68,000—or 68 percent—of the 99,691 guns recovered in Mexico between 2007 and 2011 were either made in the U.S. or legally brought into the U.S. at some point.

As you might expect, gun-rights advocates and gun-control advocates view the data quite differently, The Hill reports.

Gun-rights advocates say the 68 percent number is overstated because the sample pool only reflects guns submitted to the ATF for traces. There are many other guns in Mexico, and many don’t have a U.S. connection, they say. Guns-rights supporters say Democrats try to use the inflated percentages to promote gun control. …

[donozark]

Ya. And about 70% of the people found in America came from Mexico!

[momtothree]

BTT!

[ConservaTexan]

Most of them stamped: Property of Eric Holder

[PeterPrinciple]

Ya. And about 70% of the people found in America came from Mexico!

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Are you proposing we give them the people back in exchange for our guns?

[FlingWingFlyer]

Almost 70% of the illegal drugs found in the U.S. came from Mexico. So what’s the ATF’s point?

[edcoil]

Any company in mexico make guns? Then I guess they would have to be imported. Need to call Holder and ask for an inventory of what he sent down.

[forgotten man]

How many of the American made guns came from the Mexican army? The cartels have recruiting signs hanging from highway overpasses aimed at Mexican soldiers. The soldiers desert and take arms and equipment with them. That is how the Zetas started.

[unkus]

There are no Mexican gun manufacturers so they have to come from somewhere else.

[Lazamataz]

Amazing. The child, with his hand caught in the cookie jar, yells loudly about other cookie thefts, and proposes harsh new cookie-theft laws.

[donozark]

Only if BATFE approves.../s

[TigersEye]

ATF Publishes Misleading Trace Data From Mexico
April 27, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.
"The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S."
April 02, 2009 | William La Jeunesse & Maxim Lott

Fast and Furious; 0bama's Bloodiest Scandal and its Shameless Cover-Up.
Video interview with author/journalist Katie Pavlich.

ATF Publishes Misleading Trace Data From Mexico
April 27, 2012 | Katie Pavlich

The Myth of 90 Percent: Only a Small Fraction of Guns in Mexico Come From U.S.
"The fact is, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S."
April 02, 2009 | William La Jeunesse & Maxim Lott

Fast and Furious; 0bama's Bloodiest Scandal and its Shameless Cover-Up.
Video interview with author/journalist Katie Pavlich.

[MamaTexan]

Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US

Fast and Falsely Furious.

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I'm pretty certain 90% of cars found in Mexico came from the US, and cars kill more people than guns, so...

LET'S BAN ALL CARS!

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Absolute lie.

About 70% of the guns CHECKED with the ATF come from the US.

They only check them if they suspect they came from the US.

The vast majority are not checked with the ATF because there is no reason to believe those guns came from the US.

Guns are much cheaper to get from other countries than from the US.

[Vigilanteman]

Almost 70% of the illegal drugs and illegal aliens found in the U.S. came from Mexico.

So how about we take back our guns and return the illegal drugs and illegal aliens to them? Wouldn't it be nice?

[Wizdum]

And the dividend of “Fast and Furious” pays off for this administration

[Publius6961]

Report: Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US

BS!

Am I the only one that knows the facts?
Of all the guns that can be traced, yadda yadda...

95% of the guns in Mexico CAN'T BE TRACED!

Another "Damn the U.S.A. moment...

[Little Ray]

What they are forgetting to mention is that most (AR15 derivatives like the M-16) of them were legally tranferred to the various militaries of South and Central America by the US Goevernment.
In other words, the corrupt and incompetent governments of Central and South America armed the drug cartels out of their own armories.

[weston]

Build the fence...secure our border!

[GonzoGOP]

Well when you have no domestic manufacturing capability it kind of makes sense that most would be from the nearest location that does. That is just common sense. If the majority were from China, that would be something unexpected.

[ltc8k6]

IIRC, you are limited to certain calibers in Mexico, and they cannot be common military calibers like the 9mm or 45acp.

The 38 Super is legal.

Thus the popularity of the 38 super pistol in Mexico, which is more powerful than a 9mm.

Too bad the 38 Super gets little love here. It’s a great round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Super

[BillyBoy]

Nah, more like 70% of the illegal aliens found in the U.S. came from Mexico

[ozzymandus]

“Made in the US”. That’s the trick right there. Ever seen pictures of mexican soldiers or cops? They ain’t carrying Japanese guns.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Sounds like a fair trade to me. Besides. If things here keep going like they’re going, Americans are going to need all the guns we can get.

[ElkGroveDan]

Just wondering..... what percentage of the other consumer products in Mexico came from the US? Cars, packaged food, clothing, medical equipment etc. etc.?

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Another great reason the seal the Damned border. While we are at it we can seal the NYC limits and several of the blue state borders.

[Navy Patriot]

A new report from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)

An emergency smokescreen to obscure Fast and Furious, and remove attention from Holder's contempt citation, is more like it.

[az.b1bbomberfxr]

Why isn’t Eric Holder in prison?

[GingisK]

Just check with Oliver North’s successor. I’m sure he could explain how all that works.

[mamelukesabre]

I bet ya 70% of everything made mostly out of steel comes from america...cars, trucks, trailers, farm equipment, milling and machining equipment, construction equipment, boats, planes, trains,

[mamelukesabre]

Because he’s not white hispanic.

[Castigar]

“Report: Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US”

Even if this is true, which it’s not, it is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT as regards US gun laws.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Are you proposing we give them the people back in exchange for our guns?

Budda bing!! Great post!

[Tzimisce]

Probably didn’t help that our Justice Department gave them a bunch of these weapons....

[Olog-hai]

Sounds like the “create a problem then impose a solution” tactic indeed.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Ford and Chrysler have assembly plants in Mexico.

[allmendream]

Anyone who refuses to recognize selection bias must think a lot of strange things.

I mean 30% of all children are unrelated to the person their mother says is the father - if you go by the reports of the labs who determine such things. (most people don’t check - those that do usually had suspicions.)

Someone in the industrialized world is three times more likely to get cancer! (many cancer deaths in the third world are never diagnosed as cancer.)

Etc, etc, etc.

Are people really this stupid? Or just a significant percentage? Is there a selection bias towards idiots with no understanding of math going into journalism?

[backwoods-engineer]

Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US

Yeah, and almost 70% of that report is bullsh!t.

70% of guns TRACED (had an S/N in somebody's database) came from the US.

Doesn't mean my 2nd Amendment rights should be infringed.

We don't have comprehensive registration (my God I hope we never do) so there is NO WAY this number means anything.

[WKUHilltopper]

“Almost 70% of Guns Found in Mexico Came From US”

Yeah. Courtesy of Eric Holder and the ATF. They forgot,conveniently, to mention how many hand grenades they sold them.

[Atlas Sneezed]

To paraphrase:

“Of all the guns recovered in Mexico that are stamped ‘Made in USA’ other otherwise appear to have originated in the US, it turns out that only 70% actually were!”

[mirkwood]

The way atf should be.

[waynesa98]

I call BS on the article, we know from past history that we’re only talking about “traceable guns” not recovered weapons. Odds are that us mfg guns are at most 20% including the military stolen guns.