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American slayings in Mexico set record
San Antonio Express-News ^ | April 30, 2012 | Dudley Althaus and Lise Olsen

Posted on 04/30/2012 3:17:20 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

CHAPALA, Mexico — This nation's violence came crashing into the retirement dream of Houston's Lorraine Kulig and hundreds of other Americans last fall when gangsters shot it out and set off a bomb in this usually bucolic town on the shore of the nation's largest lake.

“We all know this is a gang problem. We have no connection with drugs,” said Kulig, 55, who retired to this quaint small city three years ago with her husband, Michael, and now helps run the Lone Star Club, a monthly gathering of Texans from the area. “But we can be caught in the crossfire.”

And not just crossfire.

In the neighboring town of Ajijic, where foreigners have been settling for decades, American Chris Kahr, 69, was unloading groceries from his car when a thief jumped him from behind, fired a single bullet into his chest and fled. The killing in November was the third last year to strike an American living in the communities along Lake Chapala, in Jalisco state.

Last year, a record 120 Americans were killed in Mexico — compared with just 35 in 2007. Most of the killings happened in states bordering the United States. But for the first time, a significant number occurred in previously peaceful areas such as Jalisco, where 14 Americans were killed, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis of U.S. State Department data.

The Chapala shootout and Kahr's death punctuated months of insecurity — burglaries, assaults, gangland shoot-outs and executions — in the area since last summer.

American and other foreign residents with financial and emotional commitments to their adopted homes tend to downplay such events. But more than a few have felt rattled.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chapala; mexico
David Truly, 56, who did his doctoral research on foreign retirees 15 years ago, added, “The types of people who come here are very adventurous. They are used to adapting.”
1 posted on 04/30/2012 3:17:32 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

I’d rank Mexico in 2nd place to Hell on the list of places I wouldn’t visit.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 3:19:40 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: SwinneySwitch
I know a wealthy guy who takes his grandchildren to Mexico every year in his $400K motor home and says: "I've never had a problem."
Personally, three of us were robbed at gunpoint on the beach in zihuatanejo back in the early 1970's. By supposedly local cops who had military backup observing from the road about fifty yards away. I haven't been back.
3 posted on 04/30/2012 3:29:31 PM PDT by dainbramaged (OMG - Obama Must Go)
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To: dainbramaged

I live in Mexico. I felt unsafe when I visited Flint Michigan, and Detroit. The Greyhound Bus station was like a war zone.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 3:37:19 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: SwinneySwitch
I've never set foot in Mexico and never will...unless I'm taken there against my will.There are many reasons for this...the fact that Mexico is a Fourth World,medieval cesspool is one of the most important ones.
5 posted on 04/30/2012 3:39:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"American slayings in Mexico set record"

Americans should stop slaying in Mexico. Really, English graduates should be educated in something other than misogamy.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 3:41:21 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: rovenstinez
I live in Mexico. I visited Flint Michigan, and Detroit.

Let me guess, your hobby is self torture?

7 posted on 04/30/2012 3:48:28 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: rovenstinez

I refer to Detroit as New Mogadishu.


8 posted on 04/30/2012 3:55:28 PM PDT by dainbramaged (OMG - Obama Must Go)
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To: rovenstinez
I live in Mexico. I felt unsafe when I visited Flint Michigan, and Detroit.

Stay thirsty, my friend...

9 posted on 04/30/2012 4:15:00 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: rovenstinez

“I live in Mexico. I felt unsafe when I visited Flint Michigan, and Detroit. The Greyhound Bus station was like a war zone.”

I think this just demonstrates that you can’t generalize this type of thing. If you get past the US-Mexico boarder areas most of Mexico is no more unsafe than most of the US (outside of major urban areas in the north east and mid-west and west oh and south west and ...). The problem is that most people just hear about the bad stuff and don’t really realize that you can’t generalize to the rest of the country.

That said, there is a US caused drug war going on in Mexico that appears to be leaking into some area that were formally considered “safe”. If the US does not do something to end the “war on drugs” you’ll continue to see violence leaking into safe areas on both sides of the boarder as is already happening.


10 posted on 04/30/2012 4:18:16 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: SwinneySwitch

If I cannot own a gun there, I don’t go there, period.


11 posted on 04/30/2012 4:25:19 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SwinneySwitch

OK. 120 Americans in one year in a country with a population of 112 million people. How many of those 120 Americans were involved in drug use or drug trafficking?

Now, how many Mexican nationals have been killed in the United States last year? How many in Texas?

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not trying to diminish the death of any one, American or Mexican. But there’s too much missing from this story. What are the crime stats of Ajijic per capita? What are the crime stats of San Antonio?

The murder rate of Washington DC or Chicago is greater than that of Mexico City! So what’s the real point of the story? To discourage Americans retirees from spending their money elsewhere?


12 posted on 04/30/2012 4:37:33 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: SwinneySwitch

13 posted on 04/30/2012 4:41:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Visited Mexico briefly one time a few years back, crossed the border into Tijuana with a friend from SoCal who wanted me to check it out, drove around for about 10 minutes and turned right back around, back across the border. 10 minutes was enough for me.


14 posted on 04/30/2012 5:14:24 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: SwinneySwitch

In that same time span, 20 million Americans visited Mexico - which would put your odds of being killed at roughly one in 170,000.


15 posted on 04/30/2012 10:36:09 PM PDT by Skibane
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To: Skibane

You stay in tourist areas, relatively safe. You go inland, you are begging to be robbed.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 5:45:58 AM PDT by rstrahan
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