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The Path To bin Ladenís Death Didnít Start With Obama [Credit Bush and Black Sites]
Washington Post ^ | April 30, 2012 | Jose A. Rodriguez Jr.

Posted on 04/30/2012 10:29:28 PM PDT by Steelfish

The Path To bin Laden’s Death Didn’t Start With Obama Text Size PrintE-mailReprints By Jose A. Rodriguez Jr., April 30

Jose A. Rodriguez Jr. is a 31-year veteran of the CIA and the author of “Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American Lives.”

As we mark the anniversary of Osama bin Laden’s death, President Obama deserves credit for making the right choice on taking out Public Enemy No. 1.

But his administration never would have had the opportunity to do the right thing had it not been for some extraordinary work during the George W. Bush administration. Much of that work has been denigrated by Obama as unproductive and contrary to American principles.

He is wrong on both counts.

Shortly after bin Laden met his maker last spring, courtesy of U.S. Special Forces and intelligence, the administration proudly announced that when Obama took office, getting bin Laden was made a top priority. Many of us who served in senior counterterrorism positions in the Bush administration were left muttering: “Gee, why didn’t we think of that?”

The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This administration built on work pain­stakingly pursued for many years before Obama was elected — and without this work, Obama administration officials never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad, Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden’s overdue death.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 72versions; binladinsdeath; cia; hardmeasures; joserodriguez; obama; obltermination; osama; spiketheball; spikingtheball

1 posted on 04/30/2012 10:29:33 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

We sure are hearing a lot about the anniversary of the raid which took out Bin Laden.

Obama and his henchmen sure do like talking about how rough and tough Obama is, that he made the gutsy call to take out Bin Laden and all that.

Well, to paraphrase Joe Biden, it was the gutsiest most audacious military operation of the last 500 years. And who made the call? Well Obama made the call, because he’s so rough and tough..............

How many conservatives will vote for Obama because of this 1 action? Why are the Obamabots playing this up so much???????


2 posted on 04/30/2012 10:44:37 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Well can you name another accomplishment in the last 3 years that might get independents to reelect him? Its all they have, and in typical juvenile fashion, they can’t help but overplay their hand. Brings back memories of Wellstones funeral.


3 posted on 04/30/2012 10:51:25 PM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Steelfish

Geez...the comments!

I got in a fight with liberal relatives because they’re against waterboarding since “torture doesn’t work”....even “John McCain says so”.

They would stand by while a city exploded. Seriously.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 10:52:09 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Steelfish

As a US senator, 0bama never voted >for< anything that was good for our military. He always voted against anything for them to accomplish their missions. Hypocritical bastard.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 11:08:55 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Aria

They would stand by while a city exploded. Seriously.


I know people of the same disgusting stripe. Stupid, cowardly idiots.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 11:16:06 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Steelfish

The author and the title are correct.

President Bush took out Bin Laden. Died in cave, crushed beneath tons of rock.

Obama killed the ‘image’ of Bin Laden, that the Muzzies were trying to ‘project’.

The guy they killed in Pakistan was a relative. Pakistan harbored Bin Laden’s family, but not ole Binny.

That is why the body was unceremonially dumped in the ocean.

What Obama did is authorize the killing of some members of Bin Laden’s family, and claim it was Bin Laden, therefore removing the ‘symbol’ of Bin Laden’s leadership. It was a pawn being moved off the table.

It was a good move, and needed to be done. Obama didn’t want to do it because he was more worried about it disturbing the Muzzies than he was about the safety of our country.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 11:36:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

And what brings you to these conclusions about OBL already being under piles of rocks?


8 posted on 04/30/2012 11:38:46 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Aria

Now that the enlightened one has crippled the ability of the CIA guys to do what is necessary will he proudly take the credit for the next attack that the radical muslims are no doubt planning? nope...that was a dumb question


9 posted on 05/01/2012 12:10:28 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Aria
When I hear libs spout that crap, I explain that US Special Forces personnel go through waterboarding; then I show them these:


10 posted on 05/01/2012 12:16:25 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Steelfish

Ha!

If this is what Obama’s campaign is all about.......

they got nuttin’.


11 posted on 05/01/2012 12:21:42 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Cobra64

Ive never seen the last photo....is that an area where bodies hit the ground?


12 posted on 05/01/2012 12:24:55 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Cobra64

Tragically beautiful pics.

My husband was waterboarded in SERE school.

He survived and, I believe, it made him stronger.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 12:25:25 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: woofie

Yes.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 12:47:12 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: woofie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaDv63nHzRs

Here is Part I of the video of 9-11 made by the two French brothers. They just happened to be doing a documentary of NYC firefighters, heard a noise, and just barely caught on film the first plane going in. They then filmed the rest of the day. Inside the command center in one of the buildings they are confused by sounds above them. They then realize it is people landing on the roof. :(


15 posted on 05/01/2012 1:21:38 AM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Steelfish

Bah. Osama died years ago.

Watch the liar spin, brag, and kill the seal witnesses.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 1:51:24 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The ONLY reason Obama is mentioning this so much is because he has done absolutely nothing else in the 3 years and 3 months he has been in office. He has absolutely nothing else he can run on for reelection. What else can he say? “I played a lot of golf and took a lot of vacations so please reelect me” The guy is a freakin’ joke.

And BTW, how do we even know OBL is dead? We have seen absolutely NO proof that has happened with the excuse given “We don’t want to put our troops in harms way by enflaming Muslims”

Well wait a minute, didn’t he say the war on terror is over? And since when is bringing a sense of closure to the 911 families LESS important than the feelings of Muslims? I call this putz on it. I say OBL is alive and well.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 2:12:42 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative
Oh my god, remember that disgusting display? Like selling tee shirts at a funeral. Just the lowest forms of life, utter sleaze. Even his own sons participated in that, besides their dad, their mother and sister were also killed in that crash and STILL they used it to whore votes! And to me that is why Repub. Norm Coleman won, the public was utterly disgusted by it. Then later on severe cocaine addict Al Franken created fake votes to win. .

"Yes! People must vote for us now out of sympathy! Ha ha ha!"

18 posted on 05/01/2012 2:33:58 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Steelfish
At some point in time, Hillary blurted out that "someone in Pakistan knows where Osama is"...It almost sounded like she was drunk...or angry...or like Obama was trying to make a fool of her???? Remember....Bubba passed on Osama.

I'm going back to try to find her "explosive specch"....

19 posted on 05/01/2012 3:20:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Clinton-Says-Pakistan-Knows-Where-Osama-is-Hiding-98837399.html


20 posted on 05/01/2012 3:24:46 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

http://publicintelligence.net/clinton-says-pakistan-isi-knows-where-osama-bin-laden-is-hiding/


21 posted on 05/01/2012 3:28:18 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/7711099/Pakistani-officials-know-where-Osama-bin-Laden-hiding-Hillary-Clinton.html


22 posted on 05/01/2012 3:32:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish
Posted some old articles. Earliesr is May 10, 2010.

Now have to go back and see when they first found out about the complex...think this was about the same time.

23 posted on 05/01/2012 3:34:23 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

http://www.asianage.com/international/osama-was-living-abbottabad-five-years-wife-349


24 posted on 05/01/2012 3:43:06 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

My previous post says we got intelligence in May & August of 2010. May was the first time (I believe) that Hillary blurts out that Pakistan knows where Osama is....


25 posted on 05/01/2012 3:44:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Steelfish

I love this guy Rodriquez. He is my new hero. I loved hearing him tell Lesley Stahl that what she said was “b*llsh*t”.

He must be making heads on the left explode, speaking truth to power in his Spanish accent.

Maybe Romney can get him as veep?


27 posted on 05/01/2012 4:52:44 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307

OK, I looked him up, he’s born in Puerto Rico and as such is eligible to be president.

So I say: go for it.


28 posted on 05/01/2012 4:56:01 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Aria

And they would feel morally superior as they sympathize with the terrorists over the agony of the innocents.


29 posted on 05/01/2012 4:56:18 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Steelfish

BTTT


30 posted on 05/01/2012 7:08:17 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Steelfish

So many questions from this article.

“We later intercepted communications KSM sent to fellow detainees at the black site, in which he instructed them: “Tell them nothing about the courier!”

Does this mean that KSM was able to commuicate with this black site while in detention?

Who is the un-named terrorist?


31 posted on 05/01/2012 7:28:13 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: woofie

Yes. The crimson is the splatter pattern.


32 posted on 05/01/2012 9:15:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: Steelfish

Some explanation on special operations is needed to sort out the “he said, she said” cacophony going on.

There are many intel pursuits going on all the time on many HVT’s in safe houses all over AfPak. The HVT’s are almost always on the move between safe houses, very difficult to know when to pull the trigger.

After Tora Bora, UBL had three distinct safe havens, localized areas where a number of safe houses existed, fully stocked by some local and available 24/7.

UBL’s entire problem was the wives and kids, very easy to spot their movement. We knew the wives would constantly demand more comfort and stability. His youngest wife refused to live in caves and underground and actually left UBL and went back to Yemen until he agreed to leave Tora Bora at about the same time as our attack.

When UBL left Tora Bora because of the family’s complaints we knew he would be heading for a more urban area as soon as a big enough safe house could be built.

That took years for us to figure out because we needed a network of locals all over Pakistan, that were reliable, like doctors and lawyers, and well paid.

We found UBL not because intel pointed out where he was, but where he wasn’t...... That’s the kicker, it takes years to sort out.

I think UBL would have been safer in Quetta, hiding among the Baloch as they are hard to bribe, but they constantly bicker and quarrel, loose lips.

No brainer that UBL avoided Pakhtun areas as they are very gossipy and easy to bribe.

We knew UBL was somewhere in NE Pakistan as his videos to Al Jazeera came out of N India on virtually the same pathway and couriers.

When a target gets paranoid they cut back on the familiars around them. Familiars find safe pathways and tend to stick with them. If there are only 2-3 handoffs and you find a courier it is fairly easy to track back.

We knew UBL wasn’t going anywhere from Abottabad with all that family to move, so no hurry, let’s see who the visitors are..... We want Z badly, more than UBL.

When we realized there were no visitors to harvest, the raid was on.

On chain of command: McRaven makes the call if the HVT decides to move. If no urgency, Panetta makes the call. Obama is only informed of the decision after assets are in place, but has only a veto regarding the “go”.

If the POTUS says nothing, the raid is on. Obama’s posturing about saying “go” is not true as that is an operational command not available to him, he can only say “no”.

The POTUS has already signed off on the HVT kill or capture list by a secret Presidential Memo.

Very unlikely that any WH staffers like Jarrett had any knowledge of the raid.


33 posted on 05/01/2012 9:20:52 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Cobra64

Those photos still fill me with rage...

What are the results with libs when you show them these?


34 posted on 05/01/2012 10:00:23 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Yep, if the Wellstone party didn’t show everyone what a bunch of immature people run the democrat party, they weren’t paying attention. By the way, love your tag line, it is a pet peeve of mine.


35 posted on 05/01/2012 10:29:06 AM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: 1Peter2:16; 2Trievers; 4integrity; 4mycountry; A_perfect_lady; Alberta's Child; Allegra; ...

*snip*

But his administration never would have had the opportunity to do the right thing had it not been for some extraordinary work during the George W. Bush administration. Much of that work has been denigrated by Obama as unproductive and contrary to American principles.

He is wrong on both counts.

Shortly after bin Laden met his maker last spring, courtesy of U.S. Special Forces and intelligence, the administration proudly announced that when Obama took office, getting bin Laden was made a top priority. Many of us who served in senior counterterrorism positions in the Bush administration were left muttering: “Gee, why didn’t we think of that?”

The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This administration built on work pain­stakingly pursued for many years before Obama was elected — and without this work, Obama administration officials never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad, Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden’s overdue death.

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God bless Pres. Bush! Folks aren’t fooled by the pretender. And God bless and protect Jose Rodriguez .. the pretender doesn’t like critics.


36 posted on 05/01/2012 9:08:43 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE
God bless Pres. Bush! Folks aren’t fooled by the pretender. And God bless and protect Jose Rodriguez .. the pretender doesn’t like critics.

Amen.

God bless Seal Team6. Some are with Him.
37 posted on 05/01/2012 9:20:43 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

The SEALS are definitely torqued. God protect them.. valiant heroes all, dear O.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=SEALS+CRITICIZING+OBAMA&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35


38 posted on 05/01/2012 9:29:47 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

I know. You have a lot of catching up to do, dearest STAR.


39 posted on 05/01/2012 9:31:27 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: onyx

I really do ... ;)


40 posted on 05/01/2012 9:39:19 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Great link. Thanks...


41 posted on 05/01/2012 10:51:53 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: onyx; STARWISE
God bless Pres. Bush! Folks aren’t fooled by the pretender. And God bless and protect Jose Rodriguez .. the pretender doesn’t like critics.

Amen.

God bless Seal Team6. Some are with Him.

Amen and AMEN to you both!

Only the hardcore leftists swallow the incessant lies of the Marxist pretender, and 'forget' how much he opposed everything that the Bush administration did to get the job done.

God is not mocked. Obama will pay for his deceit. If not on earth by laws, in eternity by the Very One he continues to sin against with his vindictive, mocking, arrogant spirit.

42 posted on 05/02/2012 7:07:30 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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