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Rupert Murdoch 'not fit' to lead major international company, MPs conclude
Guardian UK ^ | Tuesday 1 May 2012 06.31 EDT | Dan Sabbagh and Josh Halliday

Posted on 05/01/2012 6:25:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz

Rupert Murdoch is "not a fit person" to exercise stewardship of a major international company, a committee of MPs has concluded, in a report highly critical of the mogul and his son James's role in the News of the World phone-hacking affair.

The Commons culture, media and sport select committee also concluded that James Murdoch showed "wilful ignorance" of the extent of phone hacking during 2009 and 2010 – in a highly charged document that saw MPs split on party lines as regards the two Murdochs.

Labour MPs and the sole Liberal Democrat on the committee, Adrian Sanders, voted together in a bloc of six against the five Conservatives to insert the criticisms of Rupert Murdoch and toughen up the remarks about his son James. But the MPs were united in their criticism of other former News International employees.

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LaboUr and Liberals voted as a bloc. I'm thinking they don't have the same complaints about, say, Ted Turner or George Soros.

Eff all socialists. Stick it to 'em, Murdoch.

1 posted on 05/01/2012 6:25:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz

I’d like to see his wife pull some kung-fu on them.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 6:29:12 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (BO Threat Stream: http://blogsofwar.com/threatstream/index_barack_obama.html)
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To: Lazamataz
"wilful ignorance"

Can we use that on our congress critters?
Is that an actual crime or are they merely trying to declare him incompetent?

3 posted on 05/01/2012 6:34:52 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Ah yes.
4 posted on 05/01/2012 6:38:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: Lazamataz
Rupert Murdoch is "not a fit person" to exercise stewardship of a major international company, a committee of MPs has concluded...

Uhhhh...not to be insolent or anything, Commodore, but who decides whether or not MPs are fit to exercise stewardship of their subjects' lives?

5 posted on 05/01/2012 6:40:01 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Texas Eagle
...fit to exercise stewardship of their subjects' lives?

You answered your question in the question itself.

6 posted on 05/01/2012 6:42:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Lazamataz
The Commons culture, media and sport select committee also concluded
Well excuuuuse me, 'select committee'. And conclude 'this' too, ya asshats.

If this wasn't so fricken bizzare it would be funny. They come down on Murdoch like a ton of bricks but this same Culture committee hasn't said diddle about all the Muslim Enclaves that exist in London and are DESTROYING all things 'British' about the "culture" of the UK.

Like where was this so-called 'Culture Committee' when all those 'muslim yutes' were rioting and burning buildings a couple years ago?? And since Sports is part of their purview, where are they when all the Soccer Thugs -- or whatever they're called -- go bonkers and start brawls and riots??

This nonsense is example #654,329 why the American Revolution was necessary mandatory. And why 'I ain't' exactly a fan of all things British like fawning over 'The Royals'. That is, except for Nigel Farage, the last sane politician in Europe. (I have him on my Google News Alerts)

Nigel Farage: Euro Break-Up Just a Question of How, European Parliament, Strasbourg, April 18, 2012.

7 posted on 05/01/2012 7:21:46 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Texas Eagle
Uhhhh...not to be insolent or anything, Commodore, but who decides whether or not MPs are fit to exercise stewardship of their subjects' lives?

We're probably all insolent worms to him.

8 posted on 05/01/2012 7:58:54 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Lazamataz; All
I'm definitely not defending the British parliamentary committee in this case, but let's remember a few things here.

First, this happened because of a British tradition of government regulation not only of the broadcast spectrum (which is probably unavoidable) but also of the press. As others have pointed out, we declared independence from Britain for a reason. If government has the right to control media to make sure only "fit persons" are in charge, it can do abusive things like this.

Second, I don't know anyone who disputes that Murdoch's employees committed crimes, least of all Murdoch, who fired some of his closest senior associates and shut down the entire newspaper. Hacking into people's emails and cell phones is illegal — and should be. However, once we grant the principle that government has the right to regulate media, do we want to let the head of a company which has a history of serious criminal activity being allowed to participate in a regulated media business? I do not see a way to avoid the logical conclusion unless Murdoch can prove that he really did have no idea what was going on in his own company and wasn't being willfully and deliberately ignorant.

The solution to illegal hacking and wiretapping is to prosecute the criminals. The solution to irresponsible media is to stop buying the newspaper or turn the channel on the TV. Those are two very different solutions for two very different problems, and applying the wrong solution leads to cures that are much worse than the disease.

As conservatives, we're used to complaining about media, often with good reason. But let's not forget that once government gets its camel-head in the tent, all sorts of bad things happen as a result.

This has direct relevance to Free Republic and other internet media sites like this. Give the government the ability to regulate things that should be left to the free market, and we give government the right to abuse.

9 posted on 05/01/2012 9:35:03 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Lazamataz
I'm sure they would have reached the same conclusion about Margaret Thatcher, had they the chance to weigh in.
He MPs, just shut up and go boil a chicken, or some equivalent form of British food preparation.
10 posted on 05/01/2012 10:32:07 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: darrellmaurina
British tradition of government regulation not only of the broadcast spectrum (which is probably unavoidable) but also of the press.

Where is the regulation of the press? There's actually very little - only the Press Complaints Commission, which is pretty toothless, and is in any case an industry self-regulating body. A Parliamentary Committee can take the view it has expressed here, but has absolutely no power to enforce that view.

11 posted on 05/01/2012 10:45:58 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Texas Eagle
who decides whether or not MPs are fit to exercise stewardship of their subjects' lives?

MPs have no subjects. They are answerable to their constituents, who alone can decide, through the ballot box, whether they're fit to be MPs.

12 posted on 05/01/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Condor51

But it’s been a year since all the foo-for-rah about Prince Willy and Duchess Kate. All of England is baby-bump crazy! Is she or isn’t she?


13 posted on 05/01/2012 11:44:45 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: darrellmaurina

I think the government has its nose under the tent already! What gets me is not that the media are allowed to SAY the irresponsible, indefensible things that they say, but that they get special protections for doing so, being as they are the press. I think if we are to defeat them, and defeat them we must, then the government has to get out of the business of regulating free speech.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 11:48:26 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Cheney/Rumsfeld 2012)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, at least, we’ll get fair coverage and analysis from the “Guardian”!!


15 posted on 05/01/2012 11:53:11 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Winniesboy
11 posted on Tue May 01 2012 12:45:58 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Winniesboy: “Where is the regulation of the press? There's actually very little - only the Press Complaints Commission, which is pretty toothless, and is in any case an industry self-regulating body. A Parliamentary Committee can take the view it has expressed here, but has absolutely no power to enforce that view.”

I don't dispute that the actual practice is not as bad as what is possible in theory and in “extreme situations.”

The problem is that without the protections of the First Amendment, self-censorship becomes a problem. I've posted at the end of this note just two examples of problems in Britain that would not be possible in the United States. Free Republic people would be screaming bloody murder if President Obama tried to do what was being discussed by the British government in these articles — and not just Free Republic and other American conservatives but also the ACLU, Huffington Post, Daily Kos, and much of the political activist culture on both sides of the aisle.

The fact that most of these plans were abandoned in Britain is not the point. The point is that some things are possible in Britain which are not possible (at least so far) in the United States.

I mean no disrespect to British conservatives. There's a different constitutional tradition on the two sides of the Atlantic on such things as press freedom, gun rights, establishment of religion, etc., and those differences stem from different views about the proper limits on government power. While British and American conservatives may agree on many things, the differences are important and cut to the root of why 1776 happened.

Certainly British conservatives are great allies to have, but that doesn't mean we agree on everything.

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MPs seek to censor the media
The Independent
By KIM SENGUPTA
MONDAY 10 NOVEMBER 2008

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mps-seek-to-censor-the-media-1006607.html

“Britain's security agencies and police would be given unprecedented and legally binding powers to ban the media from reporting matters of national security, under proposals being discussed in Whitehall. The Intelligence and Security Committee, the parliamentary watchdog of the intelligence and security agencies which has a cross-party membership from both Houses, wants to press ministers to introduce legislation that would prevent news outlets from reporting stories deemed by the Government to be against the interests of national security. The committee also wants to censor reporting of police operations that are deemed to have implications for national security...”

Britain Blames Social Media For Class Riots, Looks to Censorship
Facebook, Twitter, and BlackBerries are likely the first to be censored

By Jason Mick
Daily Tech
August 12, 2011 9:25 AM

http://www.dailytech.com/Britain+Blames+Social+Media+For+Class+Riots+Looks+to+Censorship/article22435.htm

“Last week the fatal shooting of a 29-year-old man by members of the Metropolitan Police Service in Tottenham, North London, enraged the nation's working class. People in several British cities took to the streets engaging in looting, arson, burglary, robbery and ‘general disorder.’ Five civilians were killed, 186 police officers were injured, and over 1,200 people have been imprisoned for their role in the riots. Property damages are estimated at £100M ($161M USD) ... To try to cut that off, the nation's political elite are considering a sweeping campaign of censorship of social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook. In a Thursday speech to Parliament, embattled British Prime Minister David Cameron remarked, ‘Everyone watching these horrific actions will be struck by how they were organized via social media. Free flow of information can be used for good. But it can also be used for ill. And when people are using social media for violence, we need to stop them.’ He said that the government and police are going ‘to look at whether it would be right to stop people communicating via these websites and services when we know they are plotting violence, disorder and criminality.’”

16 posted on 05/01/2012 12:09:12 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

Can I point out that of the two stories you quote, only one refers to the printed press. And neither story reports an actual government power - only various people wishing the government had such power, not the same thing at all.
It’s the comparative lack of regulation of the British press which makes it, on the whole, such a lively read - which is in turn why the online editions are so widely read in the U.S., and indeed so often quoted on this forum!


17 posted on 05/01/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Lazamataz
Eff all socialists. Stick it to 'em, Murdoch.

Why are you cheering on a man whose TV networks shilled for Mitt Romney, push celebrity sleaze as "news", and, who promotes homosexuality among children?

Murdoch is scum. He's no friend of Conservatives.
18 posted on 05/01/2012 1:16:45 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Well, one step towards a better press is still one step towards a better press. 99 more steps to go. But one better than the rest.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 1:24:53 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: af_vet_rr

Missed this: I’m not aware of Murdoch promoting gay kid sex.....


20 posted on 05/01/2012 2:07:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!! (credit: WilliamofCarmichael))
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To: Lazamataz

Do people think CEO’s personally run every single business hands on?

Next time a BBC scandal erupts will these MP’s resign because they are unfit??


21 posted on 05/01/2012 4:52:27 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Lazamataz
It's a show on the Fox network called "Glee", focusing on high school kids, and promoting homosexuality, transvestism , etc. It's a pretty popular show apparently, and Murdoch is proud of it - it's won a lot of awards, including a lot of gay awards.

Matter of fact, if you visit the main site of Murdoch's little empire, http://www.newscorp.com/, in between banners advertising 20th Century Fox, Fox News, etc. you'll see an add for Glee.

There are a lot of despicable things turned out by Murdoch's empire, Glee is just one of them.
22 posted on 05/01/2012 6:46:14 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Condor51

As their name suggests they deal with cases which come under culture, media and sport. Muslim extremism and riots HAVE been studied and reported on Parliamentary committees, but this committee deals with behaviour by TV, newspapers, radio, film, the internet....

Reports/investigations into riots, soccer hooligans and islamic extremism arent their purview.

Have you bothered to follow this story?. Do you know why Murdoch is getting crucified?. Because his newspaper, The News of the World, illegally hacked phones and mobile phones, including the mobile phone of Milly Dowler, a child murder victim, whilst she was still missing, making her family and the police believe she was still alive. Not only did they hack phones for years, they illegally paid police for information. NOTW people have been jailed, and the likes of Murdoch Snr and Jnr and Rebekah Brooks are lucky if they arent.

I think you need to calm down and tone down your Anglophobia. There are British freepers like myself on here and we dont like people bashing our country anymore than you’d like me bashing yours. Perhaps if you actually came to the UK and saw how the country works and whats it is like, you would be less vitriolic.

BTW, did you watch the riots last year?. The majority of rioters were white British or black British, not Muslim. In fact three Muslim lads were murdered in Birmingham.


23 posted on 05/02/2012 5:42:49 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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With all due respect I don't have to come to the UK. I have (or had) and aunt and cousins that live(d) in London and my wife currently has an aunt, uncle and cousins that live in or near London and they come visit 'us' every few years.

As to my "Anglophobia". To paraphrase Sly Stallone in his movie 'Cobra': Yeah I a problem -- but it's only a little one.

I actually do like the old British Films and Brit Film Stars from the 30's, 40's and early 50's. 'The Four Feathers' (1939) is one of my all time favorites. And Alfred Hitchcock, wow, who could top him (his '39 Steps' is 4 Stars). Or Monty Python's Flying Circus in the late 60's. And no one was better than -- Archibald Leach (didn't even have to look that up). And music, 'heck', Eric Clapton is my guitar god. And even Keith Richards with all his faults, I like him too. He's great on his Fender Telecaster. So see, it's only a 'little problem'(1).

(1) it's that whole WWII thing and that $#&*ing Monty screwing everything up due to his EGO. Then 'we' barely get a thank you afterward for saving HIS reputation by carrying his load, and for saving the UK's rear end. [Sprechen Sie Deutsches?])

24 posted on 05/02/2012 7:08:07 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Lazamataz

Unless they hold shares in his companies, their opinion means jack squat.


25 posted on 05/02/2012 7:10:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Condor51

‘(1) it’s that whole WWII thing and that $#&*ing Monty screwing everything up due to his EGO. Then ‘we’ barely get a thank you afterward for saving HIS reputation by carrying his load, and for saving the UK’s rear end’

You wonder WHY you get ‘no thanks’ when Americans like you come away with phrases like saving the UK’s rear end?. Not only is that bad history, its insulting to your relatives and to every British person. Do you have any idea how insulting that is?.

As to Monty, I would be happy as well to about him, as whilst I am not a huge Monty fan, the assertion that the US carried Monty is nonsense.


26 posted on 05/02/2012 8:57:44 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: Lazamataz

I’d suggest that GB’s gov’t, en banc, are unfit to run their own country.


27 posted on 05/02/2012 1:32:26 PM PDT by Paladin2
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