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Clouds’ Effect on Climate Change Is Last Bastion for Dissenters
New York Times ^ | April 30, 2012 | JUSTIN GILLIS

Posted on 05/01/2012 10:27:05 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: Bubba_Leroy

You’re right, comrade!

Must I go to re-education camp now?


51 posted on 05/02/2012 9:24:33 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: UCANSEE2
And why should we try to change it? It is a function of a self-regulating system and altering it is just asking for problems.

The second half of the rain cycle is already heavily managed. Very little fresh water makes it back to the sea without man deciding when, where, and in what quantity. Without that management Earth couldn't support 7 billion humans. Starting to manage the first half of the cycle isn't that much of a leap. The great thing about cloud management is most effects are local. If one country wants to live in the stone age they can. If another country wants to populate their deserts they can.

52 posted on 05/02/2012 9:29:22 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks, running behind here.


53 posted on 05/02/2012 1:20:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: reaganaut1; TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ..
And from :Roger Pielke Jr.'s Blog

The NYT Puts the Hit On

"A cartoonist adds to the Alarmist attack":

The New York Times has an article today ostensibly about clouds but which is really an extended hit piece on Richard Lindzen, a professor at MIT, member of the US National Academy of Sciences and well known climate skeptic.

Below I have excerpted a laundry list of phrases in the article used to describe Lindzen:

This is "advocacy journalism" -- it is not reporting, as there is absolutely no news in the piece. Two years ago the Boston Globe did a very similar story on Lindzen for its Lifestyle section, which covered the same ground, but as a profile rather than as hit job.

Whatever one thinks about the climate change debate or Richard Lindzen, is it a good idea for the New York Times to engage in an over-the-top attack on a member of the National Academy of Sciences? Journalists, what do you think?

With Anthony Watt's coming up with own :

Catastrophically cartooned

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Josh writes:

There is a lovely cartoon over at Roger Pielke Jr’s which, delightful though it is, helps perpetuate the myth that Global Warming is somehow an issue for climate skeptics. It isn’t. The issue is Catastrophic Anthropogenic, and specifically that singularly caused by CO2, Global Warming and the alarmist hype surrounding the lack of science and the punitive energy policies that have been pursued in response to a non problem.

So I decided to do my own version of the cartoon – with apologies to the other cartoonist.

Cartoons by Josh

54 posted on 05/02/2012 1:35:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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Well I thought I would get the first referenced cartoon on here...but it didn’t “take”...go to the link to Roger Pielke Jr.’s Blog Jr’s website for it..


55 posted on 05/02/2012 1:45:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: reaganaut1

Actually, I thought the fraudulent data and methods used to generate the claims of AGW was the “last bastion” of dissenters.
Not that we need one.


56 posted on 05/02/2012 1:47:55 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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57 posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the New York Slimes article: "His idea has drawn withering criticism from other scientists, who cite errors in his papers and say proof is lacking. Enough evidence is already in hand, they say, to rule out the powerful cooling effect from clouds that would be needed to offset the increase of greenhouse gases."

The bull shit just keeps building up in the stables. What scientist?
58 posted on 05/02/2012 2:29:44 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: TigersEye

LOL!


59 posted on 05/02/2012 2:36:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Marine_Uncle
"...Enough evidence is already in hand, they say, to rule out the powerful cooling effect from clouds that would be needed to offset the increase of greenhouse gases."

OK, does he cite that "evidence?" Whether he does or not let's stipulate, for sake of argument, that the cooling effect from clouds that would be needed to offset the increase of greenhouse gases isn't enough. What empirical evidence does he have to explain this disparity between empirical temperature data and Climate Model theory?


60 posted on 05/02/2012 3:01:51 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

The AGW supporters are becoming desperate.


61 posted on 05/02/2012 3:52:16 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: CSM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2879047/posts The coming Ice Age is still under way. The Big Ice is coming, but on a time scale that dwarfs humanity


62 posted on 05/03/2012 8:42:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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