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On surprise Afghanistan visit, Obama says nation emerging from 'dark cloud of war' LIVE THREAD
FoxNews ^ | 5/1/12

Posted on 05/01/2012 4:08:36 PM PDT by Jean S

President Obama zipped through Afghanistan Tuesday on a previously unannounced visit, signing a key partnership document with Afghan President Hamid Karzai as he prepared to deliver an address to the nation on the anniversary of Usama bin Laden's death. 

In excerpts released in advance of the address, the president made sweeping statements about the course and eventual conclusion of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. 

"We have traveled through more than a decade under the dark cloud of war. Yet here, in the pre-dawn darkness of Afghanistan, we can see the light of a new day on the horizon," he plans to say, praising America's troops and making a call to "renew America."

"This time of war began in Afghanistan, and this is where it will end," Obama said in the prepared remarks. 

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/01/2012 4:08:44 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

The campaign never stops.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 4:10:58 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Jean S

Jihad is still the light at the end of the tunnel.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 4:11:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Jean S
"...dark cloud of war"

Would've been racist if a white guy had said it.

4 posted on 05/01/2012 4:12:39 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: All

5 posted on 05/01/2012 4:14:27 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq (font size=10 finger=middle))
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To: Izzy Dunne

Is this just me or is this a big time sucking up article by Fox?


6 posted on 05/01/2012 4:14:27 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Lucky me, this moron was on the radio while I was stuck in traffic because Michelle is in Albuquerque for a fund raiser and they closed the interstate.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 4:15:23 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
"Lucky me, this moron was on the radio while I was stuck in traffic..."

I keep an extra length of hosepipe in my car so if I ever find myself in that situation, I can vent the exhaust directly into the passenger area.

8 posted on 05/01/2012 4:18:44 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That is very wise.


9 posted on 05/01/2012 4:22:16 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Izzy Dunne

What if they gave a campaign speech and nobody listened? He’s got a real problem (people turn off from listening when they’ve been lied to or disappointed for too long).


10 posted on 05/01/2012 4:26:07 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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To: faithhopecharity
What if they gave a campaign speech and nobody listened?

That's what will happen in this home tonight .... NO interest in his prime time speech.

11 posted on 05/01/2012 4:31:11 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Jean S

I have a rant boiling up inside me that has more force than a volcano.

First, this visit to Afghanistan....I got a bridge to sell anybody don’t think this is a campaign ploy. All paid for on the taxpayer dime but dear Lord, so okay....WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS?

Isn’t there some law somewhere that office holders shall not use the perks of their office to pay for their next election bid? What, you say, yon mealy mouthed Republicans who are part of the problem almost as much as Obama....you say it’s, eh, a bit difficult to enforce.

WELL TAKE THE DAMN THING OFF THE BOOKS!

Take off that bit about the President needing to have the consent of congress for certain appointments because Obama, right in front of every Republican’s cowardly eyes, makes four appoiintments during an alleged congressional recess...so he flips them the bird and they do what you say? Stand back and smile sheepishly you say? The air passes between their legs as there is nothing in between.

While yer at it, clear the books of that bit about the country’s Attorney General being obliged to obey the laws because, again, WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS?

A few of them are holding hearings on Fast and Furious but I’ve heard not anything out of Mumbles McConnell or Tears Boehner. Nothing’s being done about those Black Panthers putting a bounty of an American citizen’s life and let’s see, well hey, we got a shipload of Holder “crimes” and yet the Republicans...heh.

So McCain et al, they knew nothing about the Democrats giving everyone with a pulse a mortgage, thereby collapsing the home buyer market....they knew nothing? they shared cloak rooms and sometimes attended the same parties yet not one Democrat told one single Republican about that ongoing interference in America’s mortgage market?

NO WAIT! My bad. I forgot. McCain was busy with that campaign finance reform, him and Feingold wasn’t it? McCain was busy reaching across the aisle and I go to bed every night knowing how safe I am because of McCain’s dedication to that reform legislation and how much of his time it took. It was a matter so very important to the American public after all, no?

So there’s Obama being a jerk, not that there’s nothing new under the sun, using taxpayer dollars to go to Afghanistan and carry on like a wounded mule over his capture of Osama Bin Laden.

WHERE ARE THE REPUBLICANS?

Because having no viable opposition party is every bit as bad as having a flipping-the-bird, ignoring-the-law jerko in the White House.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 4:32:51 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jean S

“Ending” because we have surrendered to the Taliban and Bambi’s other Muslim Brothers.

FUBO.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 4:35:09 PM PDT by livius
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To: Fishtalk

Here in Oregon all of the local stations are covering the Occutards, I bet Obama wouldn’t be to happy about that:)


14 posted on 05/01/2012 4:35:45 PM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Jean S
He's playing his one-trick-pony card way too early. He's always got the race card but that one has kind of backfired on him in the past so I think he'll sparingly use that one.
15 posted on 05/01/2012 4:41:03 PM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: Jean S

Another call to worship - all state run media carrying it live, and including conservative talk radio stations. Never let a good crisis go to waste.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 4:41:16 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative

Barf, right in the middle of dinner. Campaign, campaign, campaign.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 4:41:24 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Jean S

His mouth is moving, so he must be lying.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by BAW (I'll be back as fast as you can say "furious.")
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To: Jean S; Lancey Howard; bigheadfred; jazusamo; P-Marlowe

Obama is in a holding pattern though he announced 3 years ago that he was exiting.

To GWBush’s credit, at least he was trying to win a war.

It is a horrendous thing to just sit around waiting to leave while your troops are being killed and maimed.

This is definitely history’s longest enduring retreat.

Obama should be impeached for it, not praised.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Jean S

The bin laden story is as believable as the new birth certificate. This is a lie and a hoax just like everything else about this man.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 4:42:08 PM PDT by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: bgill

the time of war began in Afghanistan, it will end here.

Oh yeah...
“the phony Prince of Peace”..I am beginning to think he really is the AntiChrist.


21 posted on 05/01/2012 4:45:18 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: Oregon Coast Conservative

While I’m at it, about Obamer and that dog joke at the WH Correspondents’ dinner....

...it wasn’t funny.

I know Obamer thinks we are a bunch of rubes, lacking the cosmopolite experience to appreciate other cultures, culture that eat dogs. Surely we don’t get out enough.

When that line was put in Obamer’s book, I can almost see him, sloping against a door jamb, a lit cigarette hanging from between two fingers, eyes half-closed, hooded.

He was so cool it was like air conditioning standing next to him as he told about eating dog along with other foods he consumed in his worldly life that us dopey Americans in flyover country can’t possibly grasp.

I don’t want a president who was once so cool he ate dogs. Yeah I know he ate that first dog at age 6 but never is it mentioned when he STOPPED eating dog.

I’m not impressed by his coolness and I don’t think that him being so cool as to make a joke about such a think makes him wonderful either.

I’m jus’ sayin’.


22 posted on 05/01/2012 4:46:12 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Did he say when the troops will be home?


23 posted on 05/01/2012 4:52:47 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Fishtalk

Yeah, I agree 100%. I was actually wondering if the locals were hiding their dogs when they knew Obama was coming to town. Although, over there, they might only hide them because they don’t want to share. JK:) I think


24 posted on 05/01/2012 4:53:59 PM PDT by Oregon Coast Conservative
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To: Jean S

Will the role of Homeland Security and the fate of the TSA also be discussed among the ‘internationals’ in the upcoming Chicago meeting I have now just been made aware of?


25 posted on 05/01/2012 4:56:01 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Re: “Surprise Visit”

It was much cooler when Bush and Rummie did it.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 4:56:19 PM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: madameguinot

As long as it’s a free flight on Air Force one, the idiot will fly anywhere.

The crew must work 24/7 to keep the thing in the air.


27 posted on 05/01/2012 4:59:57 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: RS_Rider

Exactly right!


28 posted on 05/01/2012 5:00:50 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Venturer; madameguinot

I’m surprised Obama has not yet replaced the Boeing 747 Air Force One jets with Air Buses.


29 posted on 05/01/2012 5:09:11 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Jean S

Karzai is his Afghanny bundler now? Had no idea the DNC campaigned there.


30 posted on 05/01/2012 5:10:03 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Jean S

His dissociative disorder gets more critical by the day.


31 posted on 05/01/2012 5:14:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: DBeers

I was almost asleep with my eyes shut listening and heard him say “Chicago” and I sat up to see if he was off teleprompter and mis-spoke.


32 posted on 05/01/2012 5:15:22 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: DocRock
Is he really in Afghanistan? The video I just saw looked like he was standing in front of a green-screen with Army trucks in the background. I don't know if this will show up but this photo is interesting:

https://twitter.com/#!/BenFellerDC/status/197471349369876481/photo/1

The tweet: View of the president's speech for the press pool with him at Bagram Air Field. He's speaking to voters at home, not us

33 posted on 05/01/2012 5:21:02 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I'd rather light a candle than curse the flatulence.)
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To: Jean S
That Karzai is one snappy dresser!

Wonder if Obama has given Karzai an annual stipend to keep the look going on? That is separate with other money he probably gave him.

Karzai and his country are welfare recipients.

34 posted on 05/01/2012 5:21:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: Jean S

35 posted on 05/01/2012 5:31:36 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Fishtalk




It helps to remember that the Clinton-Bush coziness goes back to the days of Iran-Contra, when Papa Bush was supervising covert arms shipments to Latin America out of Arkansas (with drugs making the return trip) and Governor Clinton was busy looking the other way. Further, as was clear during abortive Republican investigations into various Clinton scandals, in the culture of impunity of Washington, politics stops at corruption's edge. Almost all major corruption is either bipartisan or common enough that one side can effectively blackmail the other.





36 posted on 05/01/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist , pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: Jean S

Wasn’t the speech for 7:30 CT? CBS hasn’t interrupted programming.

The text of his speech is online, FYI

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/02/world/asia/text-obamas-speech-in-afghanistan.html


37 posted on 05/01/2012 5:38:08 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Jean S

Yeah, right....except now we have a pResident waging war on us...


38 posted on 05/01/2012 5:38:54 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: madameguinot
“Re: “Surprise Visit”

It was much cooler when Bush and Rummie did it.”

Bush was way cooler than “the Obama” could ever be.
Every day and two times on Sunday.

39 posted on 05/01/2012 5:42:50 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: Jean S
1942 brave American men and women have fallen in Afghanistan....

since Obama took out Bin Laden

33 have fallen just this month.

What's this lifting the "Cloud of War" is Obama talking about.

40 posted on 05/01/2012 5:54:26 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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To: Jean S
President Obama zipped through Afghanistan

Zipped?

Must have been a dog buffet on the other side. Best when fresh.

41 posted on 05/01/2012 5:57:36 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Jean S; a fool in paradise
Afghans are said to be especially delicious, and are preferred by gay gourmands.


42 posted on 05/01/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Never on my watch
Here ya go :


43 posted on 05/01/2012 6:06:33 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq (font size=10 finger=middle))
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To: y'all

yikes .. sorry ‘bout the size of that one !


44 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:55 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq (font size=10 finger=middle))
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To: Jean S

I just saw a clip where he said the tide had turned these past three years. Can’t wait until he parts the sea.

What a pompous, arrogant ass. Disgusting.


45 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:57 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: tomkat
Just like when Krusty the Klown made his special appearance for the kids at Kamp Krusty.


46 posted on 05/01/2012 6:16:07 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Jean S
Mission uhhh Complete!


47 posted on 05/01/2012 6:26:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Right_in_Virginia; Jean S
That's what will happen in this home tonight .... NO interest in his prime time speech.

LOL.

I had no idea he gave a prime time speech, until just now, reading about it here.

48 posted on 05/01/2012 6:30:58 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: madameguinot

“It was much cooler when Bush and Rummie did it.”

Well, back then it was more like a reward for the troops.

I bet they hate being trotted out to see Obama. It reminds me of those forced photo ops with Geraldo.


49 posted on 05/01/2012 6:35:15 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: DocRock
I was almost asleep with my eyes shut listening and heard him say “Chicago” and I sat up to see if he was off teleprompter and mis-spoke.

I was surprised to hear mention of such. Unlike with the Olympics it would seem 0b0z0 can now proclaim Chicago as the host city to any number of progressive meetings. It does seem fitting that the city known for promoting scum would as well host scum.

50 posted on 05/01/2012 6:41:38 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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