Skip to comments.Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney’s Anti-Christian Religion
Posted on 05/01/2012 7:33:08 PM PDT by Mozilla
Many naive Americans believe that Mormonism is merely another branch of protestant Christianity. Well thats not what the founders and leaders of Mormonism believed.
According to its founder, Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young, Smiths successor, Mormons are the only true people of God on the earth. All non-Mormons and their religions are wrong, an abomination, blind, damned, of the devil, whores, not Christians, groveling in darkness, heathens, ignorant, devoid of fact, pagan and hatched in Hell.
When Romney made a speech about his religion in 2008 he refused to distance himself from his faith and fully affirmed his Mormonism. Responding to critics, Romney said,
"They would prefer it if I would simply distance myself from my religion, say that it is more a tradition than my personal conviction, or disavow one or another of its precepts. That I will not do. I believe in my Mormon faith and I endeavor to live by it. My faith is the faith of my fathers - I will be true to them and to my beliefs."
Romney, the father of homosexual marriage in America and abortion funding Romney Care in Massachusetts, flip-flops on virtually every issue, but he is adamant about his anti-Christian Mormonism. Romney needs the vote of Christians to win election, but he refuses to disavow one or another of its precepts.
Nor can anyone think Romney is merely a casual or cultural Mormon who just happened to be born Mormon. He is an active Bishop in the Mormon church hierarchy. He cannot pretend to be ignorant of the teaching of Joseph Smith and the other prophets of Mormonism.
Below is a list of quotes from Mormon leaders and official publications starting with Joseph Smith down to our day. The message is consistent and clear.
(Excerpt) Read more at defendchristians.org ...
I don’t like Mitt Romney, but this article has nothing to do with it. He didn’t force the residents of Massachusetts to join the Mormon Church when he was Governor.
Looks like one you will enjoy ping!
This is true but it is the EVIL spirit within him that left MA with his same sex marriage, $50 abortions and socialistic healthcare. He initiated it. The evil spirit is from his Mormonism beliefs - they are not from God, so it can’t be good.
True but many conservatives have fundamental issues with the teaching of the Mormon religion.
Well at least they never called us “Whores of Babylon”.....
Phobias like this only serve the left. I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion. I fear evangelists and their cults just as much, but as long as they don’t take the Muslim stance of establishing their state religion as the current cabal in Washington then it’s time to leave this kind of cheap trash out of the debate.
agree, bigotry is most unattractive.
You forgot your /sarc tag dear one.
BTW, I want to bounce an idea off of you, I’ll prolly freepmail you later in the week.
I have seen nothing to indicate that Romney has ever acted to establish Mormonism as the State Religion.
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Oh he WILL further Mormonism. The LDS prophet had 14 US congressmen and senators sent as representation of the US GOVERNMENT to the Netherlands specifically to get an exemption to a law for the LDS church at OUR TAX DOLLAR EXPENSE. This will be common place. And, yes, I can source this.
The goal of Mormonism is to dominate US politics. Been there, done that. Mormons are the same as Muslims.
Very well said.
Just courteous why are you afraid of Christians?
Really??? Do they torture, behead and honor kill too????
You know they don’t. They are definitely not traditional Christians, but I haven’t heard or read about beheading and honor killing.
It is not a phobia, it is reality. I don’t fear Mormons, I weep for them. I used to be one and I know how spiritually lost and blind they are.
People NEED to know the truth about Mormonism and Romney’s worldview, that isn’t bigotry, that is information.
You need to know what Mormons really believe, not just accept their propaganda.
bigotry is most unattractive.
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So is ignorance and/or stupidity.
“He didnt force the residents of Massachusetts to join the Mormon Church when he was Governor.”
Only because he couldn’t do it. He was too busy screwing up other things.
IF he is elected POTUS, he will be a negative influence becausing Mormonism to become more palatible. Fools often follow celebrity. Donny and Marie Osmond were the best thing that ever happened to Mormonism. They were excused their “mission” assignment because they brought in more converts through their TV show.
Besides that he is sometimes flakey, I have shunned Glen Beck because of his Mormonism.
I don’t want some lemming in America to be sucked into the dead end of Mormonism because of one being POTUS.
However, there are plenty of reasons why I wouldn’t vote for Romney even without his devout Mormonism.
I can’t wait for the threads bashing Catholics for practicing idolatry, child sacrifice and witchcraft.
By all means, let’s rip each other apart over actual and perceived doctrinal differences. It’s what the infantile Right does best.
Let me get this straight....you’d prefer to muzzle or otherwise stifle Mormons from ‘’advertising’’ their particular strain of belief and purify the marketplace of ideas? Really, if Christians are abject failures at spreading their ‘’word’’ of Christ, don’t blame a Mormon for taking into their fold a convert who rejected the ‘’Christian’’ message.
I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church. Whatever the source of those policies may be, it does not really appear to be his church.
One of the strongest Christian witnesses to me when I was Mormons was my (now husband) friend who told me he could no longer be friends with me becuase it hurt him too much to know I was headed for Hell. While it hurt then, it stuck with me and eventually, when I was ready to leave Mormonism, he was an influence in leading me to the Lord. That may seem ‘unloving’ to some, but his being honest and brutally truthful was the most loving thing he could do.
They used to kill infidels, now they just lie to make them seem innocuus. Look up the similarites...they are scary. Muslims often attend BYU because of the similarities and Mormons will side with Muslims over Christians anyday.
For starters ....I can give you many many more examples...
Matthew 10:28 - Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (NIV)
Honor killing is ‘blood atonement’ in Mormonism and is still practiced although rarely. It is still part of their teachings.
Learn the facts.
Catholics are Christians, Mormons are not. To equate them shows your vast ignorance of both.
Mormons lead people to hell, so Yes, as a Christian I would prefer to stiffle their message.
Mormonism is a lie from Hell. Period. Been there, done that , read the Book (of Mormon), saw the (Temple) Movie, wore the Holy Underwear...
I will fight Mormonism until my dying breath lest anyone be deceived as I was. Praise God, that He broke the chains of that demonic cult and set me free!
However, keep in mind, the oft changed Mormon religion is younger than our seldom amended Constitution.
That certainly gives me pause in selecting the man as a protector of the Constitution.
Blessed be the Lord in whom is no varibleness. See James 1:17.
I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church.
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Then you would be wrong. Mormonism is not pro life, and not anti-gay. They accept and even promote these things, not oppose them and I can source that. Learn the facts, don’t rely on Mormon propaganda.
Truth not nonsense at all. That is the danger of Mormonism.
Funny. I’ll bet it’s the same idea I thinking bout bouncing off you. ???
Call me anytime. I’m feeling better but I’ll have rotator cuff fixed become the end of the month and probably won’t feel so hot for a week or so. LOL
Like Stella always said “It’s a great life, if you don’t weaken”(didn’t think she was going to pull my arm off though) LOL
Talk to you soon.
Spot on! We can lead others away from eternal death to eternal life with God after our human death. Jesus Christ show us this immortality, which is for all man to receive because of Christ’s perfect sacrifice. Our human sins are forgiven and we will inherit God’s gift of salvation. It is not a myth, it is as real as my thumb. Thumbs up my FRiend!
Your friend sounds like a real jerk. It’s attitudes like his that give holy rollers a bad name. If one of my daughter’s boy friends did that to them, I would hope they would have enough respect for themselves to tell the creep to go F himself. By the way, I’m no Mormon. Never met a Mormon. Probably no Mormons withing 30 miles of me.
Of course they are.
How silly of me.
Now, excuse me while I go pray to a graven image of Mary, St. Sabastien and venerate some finger bone allegedly found in the Holy Land.
I am sure il papa is a decent human being....but, he is simply a man and kissing his ring is ritual that has no Biblical basis, except to elevate and equate a flesh and blood man with the risen and living Christ Jesus.
They didn’t fund nearly as much as they or the media claim. I was on on the front lines in a high gay area of the Prop 8 fight and there were NO Mormons involved in our area financially or otherwise. It was the Evangelicals and the Catholics.
They did promote Homosexuality by supporting pro-homosexual policies and laws in SLC.
LOL. I miss you and I miss the Stella updates as well.
Sleep well, dear Brother, and I will be praying for your shoulder.
SSM battles have been going on now for over a dozen years...(the Mormons also got involved in defending one-man, one-woman marriage in the 2000 CA ballot initiative)...
But so what? One state out of 50? Or to be fairer, one out of over a dozen states where same-sex marriage has been fought these past dozen years? What batting average is that? One state, out of -- say a dozen -- is less than a .100 batting average.
And even in CA...Sorry...Two years of deep involvement out of a dozen isn't much better. At least that's hardly a "campaign."
As for Mormons promoting homosexuality -- look @ what they did in Utah a few years ago...see the chart below...Row 3 -- not including the heading ...column 2...click on BOTH of those links...
Below: Chart on how Romney's Mormonism has effected his governing in Bay State & His campaign statements
|GOV. Romney||Mormon 'scripture' & History||Sources||Quotes|
|ObamaCare based upon RomneyCare [SoConPubbie has posted some threads the week of April 16, 2012 along these lines]. In addition, what about Romney's $50 taxpayer-subsidized abortions -- and some $0 abortions -- he permanently imposed a Planned Parenthood rep into supervision of RomneyCare? (Since he vetoed other portions of that legislation, the Planned Parenthood rep section was also something he could have vetoed). For all of the pro-abortion damage done by Romney in the Bay State, see: RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romneys Candidacy [Enabler Mitt]||Mitt's Mormonism embraced socialism/communism under the 'United Order' sacred commands still on the Mormon scriptures depicted to be everlasting commandments of the Mormon god||The Mormon socialistic/communistic everlasting nature of the United Order depicted in Lds scriptures Doctrine & Covenants 82:18-19 and 104:1, 48, 53.||Even Lds author George Givens described Brigham Youngs communist-built community of Orderville, Utah as pure communism: "When Brigham Young established Orderville and similar United Orders, John Taylor was less than enthusiastic. He realized that enterprises such as Orderville were pure communism and not the law of consecration. He made this plain after he became President, when in 1882 he sent an epistle to all authorities of the Church in which he bluntly stated: 'We had no example of the 'United Order' in accordance with the word of God on the subject...Our relations with the world and our own imperfections prevent the establishment of this system [i.e. the system of consecration and stewardship spoken of at times as the 'United Order'] at the present time, as was stated by Joseph in an early day, it cannot yet be carried out.'" (George W. Givens, 500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, 2004, p. 169)"One of the most famous utopian books ever written was Looking Backward by Edward Bellamy, published in 1889. Some scholars believe Looking Backward had considerable influence in the making of Lenin's Soviet Russia. If this is true, then [ensuing Lds "prophet"] Lorenzo Snow and the Latter-day Saints must receive some of the credit--or blame. Hearing of the success of the United Order in Brigham City, Edward Bellamy made a special trip to Utah in 1886 to study its operation. There he spent three days with Lorenzo Snow, Brigham City's founder and forty-year resident. Impressed with the thirty to forty industries run by its 2,000 inhabitants and the vitality at that time of one of the most successful United Orders, Bellamy returned home and wrote his influential book." (500 More Little-Known Facts in Mormon History, p. 185). Way to go, 19th century Mormon leader-prophets of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor & Lorenzo Snow!!! They all unwittingly fueled Soviet Communism!|
|Mitt Romney is incredibly soft on illegal aliens||Recent Lds history: 2 LDS branch presidents in Utah deported to Guatemala, El Salvador||10 reasons Christians should reject Romney||In 2006 Gov. Romney supported the presidents immigration policy as well as the McCain-Kennedy bill. He expressed support for an immigration program that places large numbers of illegal residents on the path toward citizenship. [without requiring they return home and wait their turn, allowing them to cut in line before law-abiding immigrants] Never mind that Romney hired (then fired) illegal aliens to landscape his yard. If Romney supports unlimited amnesty without any rule of law, how will he stand on national security?|
|Gov. Romney pro-civil unions for same-sex couples 2002-2005 (before he turned against it) and he is still in favor of taxpayer-funded domestic partnership benefits for sexual minorities. He says he supports 'Partnership agreements'. Also, Gov. Romney sucked up to the Bay State Gay Log Cabin...saying he would give the GLBT youth funding a greater spotlight at the fed level to emulate he was endorsed twice by the Log Cabin Club of MA; he said in 1994 and reiterated in 2007 that he was in favor of forcing businesses to hire alternative sexual minorities (in 94 he wanted feds to do it; now he wants the states to do it...his third position on that issue).||Recent Lds history: Homosexual rights: Mormon church supports Salt Lake City's protections for gay rights and Mormons Back Salt Lake City Gay Rights Laws||10 reasons Christians should reject Romney and Mitt Romneys deception, His Stealth Promotion of Gay Rights and Gay Marriage in Massachusetts, book by Amy Contrada||Per Amy Contradas book, Mitt Romneys deception, His Stealth Promotion of Gay Rights and Gay Marriage in Massachusetts, Gov. Romney, from 2003-2006: worked closely with homosexual activists and pro-gay rights advisers; implemented gay marriage through his executive departments without legislative authorization, violating the Massachusetts Constitution; pushed a constitutional amendment strategy doomed to failure, and ignored the call to remove the activist judges who ruled for gay marriage; funded and promoted GLBT indoctrination in the public schools through his Governors Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, and his Department of Education Safe Schools programs; undermined religious freedom, failing to defend Catholic Charities in the homosexual adoptions fiasco; continued or implemented radical homosexual and transgender programs in his executive departments.|
|Most years of Romney's record which he has talked about abortion, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2004 -- he has used his candidate and gubernatorial bully pulpit to encourage female citizens, readers & listeners to be pro-choice about the baby inside of them. For those who try to claim hes "changed," hes equivocated in 2007 numerous times about what his pre-2007 stance was saying in January of '07 hes always been for life and saying in August '07 that he never called himself pro-choice, never allowed himself to feel or call himself pro-choice, and that he was never pro-choice. By December of 2007, he was telling Katie Couric in an interview that it was OK for parents to donate their otherwise adoptable embryos to research...my, how pro-life of him...Should all parents consider such donations regardless of the age of their offspring? Why not, Mitt? And click on the first link in the "sources" column to the right to see the true abortion "legacy" of Romney, especially the year 2006||For the official Mormon church position on abortion, see
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm. Apparently, it's "OK" for an abortion if... (a) Incest needs to be covered up; (b) The baby is disabled and needs to be destroyed accordingly; (c) Mom's "health" (whatever that means...distinct from saying "life" of the mother); (d) If the abortionist says it's "OK"; (e) If the Mormon god says it's "OK" in prayer...E alone above could "justify" abortion to individual Mormons as long it overrides the person's conscience!
|RomneyCare Now Funding FREE Abortions: A Disqualifier for Mitt Romneys Candidacy [Enabler Mitt]; See also: GOP frontrunner Romney shirks pro-life pledge: Bachmann, Santorum criticize; Ann Romney Reveals Mitt's Softer Side (see quote next column); Candidates Reveal Their Biggest Mistakes (see quote next column)||November, 2011, Parade Magazine interview: In the past youve said hes changed positions only once, on abortion. Was that your doing? No, no, I never talked to Mitt about that. Our personal opinions have never changed; weve always been pro-life ( December 4, 2007: Romney: ...surplus embryos...Those embryos, I hope, could be available for adoption for people who would like to adopt embryos. But if a parent decides they would want to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable. It should not be made against the law." Any "inquiring minds" want to try wrapping their minds around how a politician in one sentence mentions "adopting" embryos out (yes, a great thing to mention!) -- but then in the very NEXT breath says if a "PARENT" wants to be "pro-choice" (Mitt used the word "decides" which is what "pro-choicers" say they want) "to donate one of those embryos for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable." Say what???? How about 8-month gestationally-aged infants in the womb, Mitt? Or already-born infants, too, Mitt? If a "parent decides they would want to donate one of those...for purposes of research, in my view, that's acceptable..." No??? What's the 'pro-life' difference, Mitt? Here you call an embryo's mom&dad "parents" -- but "parents" w/ "research" give-away rights? How bizarre we have such schizophrenic "candidate!"|
|What about Marion G. Romney, cousin to Mitt's father?||Who was he in Lds hierarchy? (Title: 'President' - Top 3 of church as 2nd counselor to both #11 & #12 Lds 'prophets')||(Things As They Really Are, p. 73). Cited in official Lds publication, Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, pp. 275-276 (1984)||"Elder Neal A. Maxwell has said: 'Following the living prophets is something that must be done in all seasons and circumstances. We must be like President Marion G. Romney, who humbly said, '..I have never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional, and political life' (Conference Report, April 1941, p. 123). There are, or will be moments when prophetic declarations collide with our pride or our seeming personal interests...Do I believe in the living prophet even when he speaks on matters affecting me and my specialty directly? Or do I stop sustaining the prophet when his words fall in my territory? if the latter, the prophet is without honor in our country!|
Have you ever heard of a good cult?
Either one religion is the true one, or they are all wrong. Wouldn’t it be ironic that after we drop dead we find out everybody was way off.
Y’all are a bunch of cheapskate heathens - and don’t think I haven’t noticed you have failed to send in your tithes. Excuses about delivery difficulties to the interior of the ‘Glades are Not acceptable.
Get those payments made NOW! You don’t want to burn, Burn BURN!
I believe that most of the policies you object to are not taught or supported by the LDS/Mormon church. Indeed, several of them are very much opposed, taught against... by that church. Whatever the source of those policies may be, it does not really appear to be his church. [Faithhopecharity, post #20]
Sometimes shallow parents produce shallow children -- even if the areas of life upon which they are shallow are quite distinct.
Or pick out another dozen traits or characteristics and say the same thing.
In this case, the spiritual parent -- the Mormon church & Romney's Mormon family/ancestors -- have produced spiritual "kids" who are wishy-washy. I mean, even in abortion...look how squishy wishy-washy the Mormon church is:
Abortion: The official Mormon church position (see
http://www.religioustolerance.org/lds_abor.htm) is that it's "OK" for an abortion if...
(a) Incest needs to be covered up;
(b) The baby is disabled and needs to be destroyed accordingly
(c) Mom's "health" (whatever that means...distinct from saying "life" of the mother)
(d) If the abortionist says it's "OK"
(e) If the Mormon god says it's "OK" in prayer...
E alone above could "justify" abortion to individual Mormons as long it overrides the person's conscience!
Therefore...If people want to understand Mormonism's approach to the socio-political realm, please read these two articles (the first written by a Mormon; the second by an ex-Mormon):
* Mitt Romney mirrors his Mormon church [Lds writer says Romney flip-flops 'cause Lds church has/does]
* Who is Mitt Romney? [Ex-Lds author reveals why Mitt's wishy-washy culture waffles & flip-flops]
In the first linked article above, Mormon Neal Chandler highlights how in the 19th century...
* Mormons forced communism upon its people -- and then not (United Order)
* Adhered to theocracies under its first two "prophets" -- and then slowly drew back
* Said polygamy was a condition of the highest degree of glory -- and then not
* Encouraged its Utah Territory voters to be Democrats -- and then told whole groups of people wholesale to "balance it out" as Republicans as statehood approached
* Excluded blacks -- and then late in the 20th century not
From the second article linked above: What makes Mitt the kind of person he is ruthlessly opportunistic, dishonest, insincere, willing to say anything for advantage, lacking in conscience, preoccupied with appearance, etc., on the one hand, yet squeaky clean, family-oriented, disciplined, boring, and predictable, on the other? My new e-book, A Mormon Story, sheds light on the culture that produced Mitt Romney.
Good question. (It's one I've raised -- and answered numerous times on various FR threads)
The answer, says this ex-Mormon in the book referenced above is: (From the article): The book reveals a value system that ultimately has no absolutes, other than the need to conform to deep-seated, highly-controlling authoritarianism that pervades LDS culture. That culture emphasizes a Mormon tradition known as "eternal progression" undoctrinal spiritual evolution in which even God is changing. It also emphasizes the notion that the latest words of governing church leaders trump the Word of God found in the scriptures (including LDS scripture).
IOW, EVERYTHING in Mormonism -- from its theology to its social practices -- is up for potential change at the whim of the Mormon god. Bottom-line: There is no bottom-line in Mormonism! There is no bedrock doctrine that cannot be replaced!
There isn't even an Ultimate god in Mormonism...Nobody knows who the gods are that were part of the council which appointed the god of this world -- a former man, say Mormons.
So there's not even any Ultimate Authority in Mormonism!
All is up for grabs -- to be waffled upon -- @ any given notice by the Lds "prophet"!
LOL. He isn’t a jerk at all and has been my husband for over 16 years now. He has never been a ‘holy roller’ either, just a strong Christian who had the guts to tell me truth, even if it meant losing our friendship.
His comments stuck with me the entire time I was in Utah (and deep in Mormonism). His comments, which were the truth, led me back to him when I left. There is such a thing as tough love and he loved me enough to be bold enough to tell me what I didn’t want to hear. That was a blessing in the long run because it got me out of that evil cult (Mormonism) and into a relationship with Christ.
I used to be Mormon and frankly, those with your attitude don’t keep people IN Mormonism, not lead them out. I am eternally grateful that my beloved husband loved me enough to tell me the truth, even if it hurt at the time.
Yes. As referenced in my chart in post #37.
Tell Mrreaganaut hi!
Catholics and Evangelicals agree on the basics of Christian theology...those found in the creeds. Mormons reject those doctrines.
Study to show thyself approved.
From time to time notable Mormons have gone on charm offensives to depict the faith as being one of high morals and clean living. That may be so on paper, but Mitt isn’t even honoring their own paper.
Relax., take a few deep breaths and remember “Google is your friend”, FRiend.
Mormons do not accept homosexuality, and if there is a faith more child oriented, do let me know.
No, I’m not Mormon. But I do know how to search Google. Everything, including the “secret ceremonies/rituals” are on the net.
PD They are remarkably similar to Masonic rituals.
Have paused long enough to consider that maybe, just maybe, the exposure of LDSinc heresies and blasphemies is why Milt is being ‘raise up’? While I cannot vote for Milt in good faith to conservatism, I can vote against little barry bastard commie by voting for Milt ... and then for every conservative I can find to send to Washington to reign in his liberal mind. During the coming campaign, the vagaries of MormonISM will be aired to the fair thee well ... and that’s a good thing don’tchaknow. We might save the Republic for a little longer AND many may leave LDS inc when they learn the truth about the leaderships of that religion and its antiChristian teachings.
Thanks for the chart, Colo. It will be useful in the future.
Don’t forget the cannibalism.