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Water Guns Banned, Handguns Allowed at GOP Convention
Yahoo ^ | 5/2/12 | Amy Bingham | ABC OTUS News

Posted on 05/02/2012 2:37:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

In the politically-charged and likely protest-filled streets of Tampa, Fla., during the Republican National Convention in August, water guns will be strictly prohibited. Concealed handguns, on the other hand, will be perfectly legal.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott said this week that banning handguns from downtown Tampa during the convention, as the city's Mayor Bob Buckhorn requested, "would surely violate the Second Amendment."

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Buckhorn said last month that the state law, which prohibits the city from temporarily banning handguns, makes the city "look silly" because officials can prohibit water guns but not real ones, The Associated Press reported.

"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week," Buckhorn said in Wednesday's statement. "And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012rncconvention; banglist; banned; gopconvention; handguns; tampa; waterguns
and then they came for the super soakers.. uhhh.

Can't wait for all the convention stuff to come ,, theatrics and all.

1 posted on 05/02/2012 2:37:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Drop the water gun and no one gets their hair mussed up..

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2 posted on 05/02/2012 2:42:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Don't you IDIOTS understand anything? My face can deflect bullets but WATER MELTS WITCHES!"


3 posted on 05/02/2012 2:47:05 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: NormsRevenge
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week," Buckhorn said

Ah... Mayor Buckhorn, I think there is no reason to have a politician with no respect for the Constitution. We need to work on getting rid of those.

/johnny

4 posted on 05/02/2012 2:48:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NormsRevenge

Thanks Gov. Scott. We don’t suspend the Second Amendment for events.


5 posted on 05/02/2012 2:48:31 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: NormsRevenge
. . shall NOT be infringed.
6 posted on 05/02/2012 2:54:42 PM PDT by tomkat ( FU.baraq <font finger=middle>)
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To: goseminoles
Inquiring minds want to know water squirt guns are banned, but what about all those Paulbots, and their silly string?

They want attention!
7 posted on 05/02/2012 2:56:27 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: goseminoles

So proud to say Gov. Scott had my vote — HE IS THE MAN.


8 posted on 05/02/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: NormsRevenge

I vote we amend the 2nd Amendment to include arms that shoot water. Problem solved.


9 posted on 05/02/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: NormsRevenge
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week,"

Downtown Tampa will be crawling with thieves, pick pockets, and outright armed robbers... and those are just the politicians visiting.

But it will be far, far worse in Charlotte the next week.

10 posted on 05/02/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Look at the list of banned objects; they’re the very ones OWS vermin use to perpetrate mass destruction. Just imagine one of those subhumans loading a Super Soaker with urine and liquid feces and using it on cops or convention attendees. It’s a biological warfare weapon who’s use justifies a lethal response.


11 posted on 05/02/2012 3:11:17 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: NormsRevenge

Democrats: Capital punishment bad, abortion good


12 posted on 05/02/2012 3:12:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: libstripper
Sure, but if I chose to use a super soaker, silly string, a knife, or brass knuckles as my weapon of choice for defense, so be it.

This is the same stupid argument of guns. Just because someone has a gun, machine gun or super soaker. Doesn't make it against the law.

The right to bear arms is not merely to guns, but to knives or any object I choose.

13 posted on 05/02/2012 3:19:40 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hahaha.... gotta love it.

btw, it will probably be the same thing at the Dem convention. (without knowing the conceal carry laws of NC)


14 posted on 05/02/2012 3:24:55 PM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: NormsRevenge
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week,"

They tried that argument in Oakland Michigan a few years back when street fair organizers said they didn't want guns allowed at a "private" event. The city council backed down pretty quickly after a chat with their attorneys.
15 posted on 05/02/2012 3:49:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NormsRevenge

The only thing that is ridiculous is that some leftist idiot would ban water guns.

And for the record you can also ban fake newspapers and restrict a persons ability to cast votes in a pretend election.


16 posted on 05/02/2012 3:50:12 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."

I don't know this Buckhorn person, but he seems to have his head screwed on right.

17 posted on 05/02/2012 4:01:16 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Theoria
Sure, but if I chose to use a super soaker, silly string, a knife, or brass knuckles as my weapon of choice for defense, so be it.

The Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear "Arms". The first few words of that Amendment would suggest to me that the term "Arms" refers to artifacts which are suitable for use as weapons of individual and collective defense. While it might be possible to use a can of silly string for such purpose, it would be an incredible stretch to say it was "suitable" for such use, except in circumstances where nothing better was available. If the term "Arms" were interpreted to mean anything that might conceivably be used as a weapon, the federal government would be unable to impose any restriction or taxes on the acquisition of much of anything. Indeed, how many things can one think of which could not conceivably be used as weapons?

18 posted on 05/02/2012 4:17:25 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: BigEdLB

What about hot dogs , rice , and cards?


19 posted on 05/02/2012 4:38:28 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Cyber Liberty

Since I am a “local”, I respectfully suggest you rethink your opinion of his stated position, on this particular issue.

Tampa is not Chicago.

Florida gun laws are pretty clear regarding what will happen when a gun is used to commit a crime, or to “create mayhem.”

We don’t have an open carry law (yet) but our “own and transport” laws are very clear.

The Mayor is stuck on stupid.
Florida is not an OWS/Anarchist/criminal friendly State.


20 posted on 05/02/2012 4:44:21 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: supercat

Arms merely means a weapon. And yes, Gov’t cannot restrict such. Having a weapon is not against the law. If I choose to use a slingshot, sword or super soaker, so be it.


21 posted on 05/02/2012 4:48:10 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: sarasmom

OK. I defer. I am most certainly *not* a “local.”


22 posted on 05/02/2012 5:00:21 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week,"

There certainly is. People at the convention have the right to defend themselves against the democrat/commie protestors that will be there.

23 posted on 05/02/2012 5:01:33 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you got ta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: NormsRevenge

Super soakers are banned because they can be filled with liquid bodily fluids among other things... And have been dueling anarchist protests in the past.

The governor was absolutely right in his decision today... Now if some criminal sh*t bag brings a gun, conventioneers won’t be unarmed sitting ducks.


24 posted on 05/02/2012 5:12:54 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: George from New England

“So proud to say Gov. Scott had my vote”

He had mine.

He lost it when his hand picked flunky Angela Corey put George Zimmerman in jail on trumped up charges resulting from his defending himself against a feral thug using his 9mm handgun simply to placate racist mobs.


26 posted on 05/02/2012 5:22:55 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Theoria
You would be probably be amazed at what I can do with properly distilled snake venom and a set of pretty fake fingernails!
Not to mention a simple Judo lethal defense technique, that works every time, without fail.

That said, no government can pass laws outlawing insanity.

OTOH, a squirt gun is a toy, not a weapon, and a temporary public ban on protesters carrying them in downtown Tampa during the RNC convention is not something that goes against the right to bear arms, nor the right to protest.

But you know that, right?

27 posted on 05/02/2012 5:26:34 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: MtBaldy

You’re right. Scott was/is on the wrong side of the Zimmerman situation.


28 posted on 05/02/2012 5:27:06 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: Theoria
The right to bear arms is not merely to guns, but to knives or any object I choose.

Since the Revolutionary War was fought with "arms" carried into battle by an individual, hauled by horses or aboard a ship that was privately owned, I interpret the "right to keep and bear arms" to include anything you can carry on your person or on any conveyance you own.

Of course, you no longer own your own body - you can't even sell a kidney to somebody who needs one when you don't. However, if you own a B-52 and have the ability to purchase the armament it is capable of carrying, you have the right to do so in my book.

29 posted on 05/02/2012 5:28:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: sarasmom
Its already against the law to put urine or any other substance on someone without their permission.

There is no need to temporary ban such items, and if there was a problem with them in first place, there would be ban on them every where. Not just for this convention.

The role of the thought police is ever increasing.

30 posted on 05/02/2012 5:34:38 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: JRandomFreeper; NormsRevenge
"There is no reason to have a concealed firearm in downtown Tampa that week,"

But, here is a good reason, anyway:

"And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."

~~~~~~~~~

Paraphrase: "I'm worried about folks creating mayhem with illegal arms -- but there is no reason for you to be able to defend yourself..."

Talk about "speaking out both sides of your mouth"!!!

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As I have offered before, I will gladly supply all the freshly split, splintery, rosin-loaded pine rails needed to ride that idiot out of town! (Tar and feathers should be available locally...)

31 posted on 05/02/2012 8:43:47 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Theoria
Nice attempt at a straw man argument.
EPIC FAIL in the real world, consisting of real people.

What you have demonstrated is a total failure to display the ability to comprehend the basic purpose of government, civil justice, and laws, as it pertains to the USA.

That's OK.
You can openly display your contempt for our society, and not be arrested for your opinion.
I can also openly display my contempt for you, and not be arrested for it either...unless I threaten you physically.
What you and your followers always fail to grasp is one simple fact of human nature, life, society, law and government.

That pertinent fact is:
Civilization is a wafer thin veneer controlling human nature.
Courting anarchy is only fun in theory...

32 posted on 05/02/2012 9:32:26 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: sarasmom
'What you have demonstrated is a total failure to display the ability to comprehend the basic purpose of government, civil justice, and laws, as it pertains to the USA.'

I'm not a anarchist. Nor do I want civil unrest. Nor is our arguments based on straw men or fictionalized attempt at life.

Our discussion was if Gov't can ban objects and things based on nothing. We already have laws against such actions that criminals could do. Yet, you are choosing Govt to ban such objects just in case people act. That argument is the same of banning guns. Even though, we both agree and acknowledge that people will disregard any such prohibitions anyway.

Nor have you even attempted to argue that Gov't even has the authority to ban such items.

Anyway, the cages will be at the DNC and GOP conventions will make great television.

33 posted on 05/02/2012 9:41:17 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria
LOL!

You and your naive friends who depend on the ACLU, DNC or NAACP versions of legal theory as a thin shield for civil anarchists, will encounter many cold, hard facts in Tampa, Florida.

But do have fun protesting against a group of people gathering together to exercise their free rights!

34 posted on 05/02/2012 10:24:48 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: sarasmom

I said nothing of the such. But, I’m glad your there to support Gov’t. I never once said anyone should break the law. Anyway, have a good night.


35 posted on 05/02/2012 10:30:11 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

Sleep well tonight.


36 posted on 05/02/2012 10:48:29 PM PDT by sarasmom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xZsFe6dM3EY)
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To: Cyber Liberty

You read it wrong. Buckhorn is the mayor trying to ban guns. Scott is the governor who said he will allow no such thing.


37 posted on 05/03/2012 4:19:37 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Outstanding, Governor Scott. The left is simply apoplectic about his standing fast in the face of this pathetically transparent excuse to enact another gun ban by fiat.

Florida Freeper


38 posted on 05/03/2012 4:43:37 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
In your faces, gun-grabbers.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

39 posted on 05/03/2012 4:46:02 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good point, Mayor. You should immediately disarm your security team and make their disarmament public.


40 posted on 05/03/2012 7:07:12 AM PDT by pabianice (ame with)
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To: Dan Nunn
I was commenting on this quote, which was taken out of context:

"And, to be clear, I am far less concerned with those who have concealed weapons permits than the ones who may somehow acquire a weapon and use it to create mayhem."

I know nothing of the guy's politics, but that one comment actually makes some sense, and is not typical of a gun-grabber. Others who DO know of his political attitude have informed me otherwise...thanks for the input.

41 posted on 05/03/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Buckhorn is a Liberal shill. He tried to run on hopey-changey and won over a “moderate” Hispanic woman. He’s just parroting the governor.


42 posted on 05/03/2012 7:25:55 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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