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Gingrich: Romney’s ‘Conservative Enough’ Compared To ‘Most Radical, Leftist Pres in American Hist'
Cnsnews.com ^ | May 2 2012 | Edwina mora

Posted on 05/02/2012 11:11:41 PM PDT by NoLibZone

While formally suspending his bid for the Republican presidential nomination on Wednesday, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said that he believes presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney is conservative enough when compared to “the most radical, leftist president in American history.”

“And my answer is simple: compared to Barack Obama?

You know this is not a choice between Mitt Romney and Ronald Reagan. This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.”


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To: montanajoe

How is it up there on your high horse?

Ever fall off?

Long way to the ground.


51 posted on 05/03/2012 6:37:20 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: NoLibZone; Cincinatus' Wife; montanajoe; Jim Robinson

I try very hard to find the truth before I post...the entire truth...a portion of it doesn’t suffice.

Like my tagline says, so once I believe I’ve found it, I hold to and speak without fer.

Both Romney and Obama are horrible.

I believe the facts to date, and projected into the near future, demonstrate Obama clearly to be the greater danger to our survival as America.

I agree Newt is correct on that point.

To reach that is easy, imo, but you have to extract the political parties out of it, the arguments between conservatives and RINOS, Mitt’s flip flopping, lying, etc. And nobody knows the truth on Mitt better than Newt, and Governor Perry. They chronicled it. They suffered their fates, in part, from it.

When you pull that away from the comparison to the Obama threat to our survival, and imagine a second Obama term with little constraint...he will do as he pleases without regard to Congress, and we don’t yet have the Senate flat out assured, either, and his appeasement of enemies and determination to remake this nation come hell or high water, there you have it.

I so despise Romney the politician I wouldn’t vote for him unless, personally, my back was to the wall in a drop dead swing state that was hanging by a thread to go either way, and the race was razor thin tight.

I would then consider voting strategically, for my nation to have a second chance beyond Obama.

I find Ron Paul repugnant in some very important ways. I understand that FReepers have voted for him, for instance in VA, to try to ball things up for Romney and the E machine, who otherwise have zero use for Paul.

In Texas, he will be the only non Romney on the ballot who hasn’t dropped out.

I will either vote Paul...ugh...or not vote.

The truth is, uncomfortable as it may be to some of you, there’s little difference in it being ok to vote for Ron Paul in certain narrow circumstances for strategic reasons, and it being defensible to vote for Mitt in certain narrow circumstances for strategic reasons.

Sure, you can attack my seperate defense of possibley voting for either Romney against Obama or Paul against Romney, but when you take them together and try to say one is fine and the other is traitorous to the conservative cause, that can’t be true.

Both are forbotten, or both are defensible. Think about it.

I can name what is reprehensible about Paul, or even crazy, but that’s not my purpose. If you don’t know by now, I can’t help you.


52 posted on 05/03/2012 7:09:55 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: NoLibZone; Cincinatus' Wife; montanajoe; Jim Robinson

“speak without fe(a)r”


53 posted on 05/03/2012 7:17:54 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: IbJensen
"Is the entire Republicrat apparatus nothing but a complicit organization whose goal is the same as the Democrats?

This needs to stop Now! There is no more room for compromise...the bottom line has already been reached. The Republican party has lost it's mind if they think we are going to vote for the most in-your-face, fumbling, sleazy liar Democrat with an "R" that has ever been presented in the party since the forming of the party. Yes, they are asking for a defeat. Whether it's planned by the left leaning "progressive" GOP-e is anyone's guess.

Have you no end to what you expect people to give up? What's the next level of lowering the standards?...."Well he might be a pedophile but he is better than a Democrat". No..there is no room for this type of "progress" toward the demoralization of the US.

54 posted on 05/03/2012 7:29:24 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Earthdweller; NoLibZone

You don’t need to give up anything, in my view.

I wouldn’t waste a single second on arguing with you. I say do what you believe to be right.

The problem comes when someone attacks the decision of another, who has assessed it and believes Obama unrestrained = a destroyed America, who lives in a swing state upon which hinges this fate, and casts a strategic vote against Obama.

I think each has to do what they believe, and that either decision is defensible for that individual in the situation they inhabit.

Texas isn’t a swing state. In the delayed primary that will finally happen later this month, the only non Romney on the ballot who hasn’t dropped out is Ron Paul. I will either not vote in the primary, or will...shudder...vote for Paul, who on some counts I find reprehensible and scary.

TX will vote to oust Obama...they and our nation don’t need my vote for Romney to do that.

Others are in a completely different spot.

I don’t attack you, or them.


55 posted on 05/03/2012 8:17:47 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: NoLibZone

Thanks for the new tag line, Sec. of State Gingrich!


56 posted on 05/03/2012 8:37:16 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.”)
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To: varmintman
"I mean, all we’re talking about here is getting the US govt. back under some semblance of adult supervision."

This. The stakes are that high.

57 posted on 05/03/2012 8:43:19 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.”)
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To: NoLibZone
Gingrich: Romney’s ‘Conservative Enough’ Compared To ‘Most Radical, Leftist President in American History’

Gingrich says it. Palin says it. I wonder if FR can get behind it.

58 posted on 05/03/2012 8:43:31 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: montanajoe

How can something that’s true be “one of the stupidest statements I’ve read on FR in a long time”? It’s true that I don’t approve of Romney, and that I preferred Gingrich previously. I’d rather have Romney than Obama, though.

Calling what I said “idiotic drivel” doesn’t make it so or make you any more intelligent than I am. “...can[’]t walk the walk..”? I’m not interested in making empty gestures. You’ve said nothing to convince me that giving up our last chance to prevent Obama from being reelected is the better position to take.


59 posted on 05/03/2012 8:49:20 AM PDT by GJones2 (What are our choices for president?)
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To: Hugin
"Second, is it you opinion that a 2nd Obama term would be less harmful than Romney becuse the Republicans would oppose Obama, but support the same measures from Romney?"

Great question -- the problem is, under either President, the House could go back to the Dogs in 2014, and with enough RINOs in the Senate, all hell could break loose in those last two years.

Furthermore, there's no doubt whoever gets the job will get 1, if not 3 (!), Supremes in the next four years.

60 posted on 05/03/2012 8:49:40 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("This is a choice between Mitt Romney and the most radical, leftist president in American history.”)
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To: tet68

I’m with you and join you in that prayer, my FRiend, for our kids and grandkids sake.

I was Sarah, Cain, Santorum, and then Newt.

The Lord God can work miracles, from healing, to changing hearts, to, as Patrick Henry said, presiding over the destiny of nation. I pray once more, that He will extend His arm to us here, and help us turn this around. There are millions who desire the turn back to fundamental moral and republican principle with all of their hearts.

BZ


61 posted on 05/03/2012 8:57:51 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

People will very much have to plan to hide their guns.


62 posted on 05/03/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: tet68

tet68 wrote:
<<
Jim, I know your position and I respect it.
I’m not sure myself what I will do on election day
but I will not accept Obama for four more years.
If we can gain the Senate it’s possible that origionating
Proper bills we can influence Romney to do what is
right, certainly with Obama it will be more of a
struggle, if possible at all.

Sarah was my choice but that didn’t happen.
I only know Obama is a disaster to our nation,
if he’s elected again there will be NO recovery
because that isn’t in his interest.

Myself, I’m old, but my niece just got married
and I see a dark time coming for them if this
rampant socialism isn’t stopped.
It’s not up to Romney but the Tea party to put
the brakes on and control the narrative.
I pray to Divine Providence, like Washington did
that our nation and way of life can continue to
be a shineing goal for all who seek freedom and
prosperity for their progeny.

tet.
>>

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I agree completely with your post... None of us are happy with Romney getting the nomination and I’m more angry and resentful now toward the Republican party than I’ve ever been at any other time in my life. So we have to make a choice with the horrible hand we’ve once again been dealt and here are the underlying facts... Despite all his flaws, the nation CAN survive four more years with Romney as president providing we force our elected officials in Congress to hold his feet to the fire and keep pushing him to the right. Meanwhile, the nation CANNOT survive another four years of Obama recklessly ramming more of his radical Keynesian and Marxist policies down our throats and no longer having to worry about re-election. It’s that simple. I believe every one of us who stays home or votes third party in November is only going to ensure Obama gets re-elected and THAT to me is unacceptable!


63 posted on 05/03/2012 9:13:05 AM PDT by DestroyLiberalism
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To: BookaT
"THERE WILL BE NO OTHER DAY."

That's the real bottom line. Romney is a terrible candidate, a beyond holding your nose candidate, but he is not as bad as an avowed enemy of America in the White House. A vote for Romney and you will live to fight another day (if he wins), take back the GOP, form a third party, whatever. A vote for Obama or third party in 2012 will be the last vote that is anything other than symbolic (if Obama wins). A second Obama term will end anything meaningful for conservatives and the end of real elections. Look to Venezuela, East Germany, or Russia for the future models.

64 posted on 05/03/2012 9:13:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: NoLibZone

Romney is to the right of Obama, sure, but he is probably to the left of BJClinton.


65 posted on 05/03/2012 9:14:35 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: NoLibZone

Boy, talk about damning with faint praise.


66 posted on 05/03/2012 9:15:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: NoLibZone

Newt, you’re wrong. End of story.


67 posted on 05/03/2012 9:20:11 AM PDT by arderkrag ("WAAHH WAAAHHH SCOTUS" is no excuse to vote for Romney. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: NoLibZone

I wasn’t a Gingrich guy, but I have to say I agree with the way he said what he said, even if I as an ABL don’t agree with all his words.

This fits the textbook definition of a lefthanded compliment. Still, there’s no way on earth I’m voting for an abortionist.


68 posted on 05/03/2012 9:20:41 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Obama vs. Romney: Zero x Zero = Zero.)
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To: DestroyLiberalism
The way I'm describing it... if Bork Obunga gets re-elected, there will not be any pieces lying around for anybody to try to pick up or put back together, four years down the road. Everything we've ever known will be OVER, game, set, and match.
69 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:15 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: GJones2

“You’ve said nothing to convince me that giving up our last chance to prevent Obama from being reelected is the better position to take.”

I didn’t read the post that you responded to, but I am pretty sure It has been repeated ad nauseam. Committing suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.


70 posted on 05/03/2012 9:26:44 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: Biggirl
Why hide them" For how long?

The assault on liberty is happening NOW.

71 posted on 05/03/2012 9:35:12 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Jeff Head

To tell you the truth, I am not thrilled with the hand that has been dealt with myself. The best canidiates that I like have either been driven out, had gone broke, could not get traction, or decided not to bother to run.


72 posted on 05/03/2012 9:43:51 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: TXnMA

Have answered that question several times.

We’re going to turn out like never before to elect conservatives into as many offices in the land as we possibly can, including building on the house majority and retaking the senate. Obama is without a doubt the worst president in American history. He’s already getting desperate thanks to we the tea party electing a Republican house. IF he’s re-elected he’ll really be isolated with a Republican senate, too, and with the Republicans holding the majority of the governors and state legislatures. He’s committing impeachable offenses at every turn already. After he’s completely isolated he will go berserk and REALLY try to take desperate steps. But we’re going to come down on him like a ton of bricks. The Republican led states will re-assert their tenth amendment powers and cut him off at the knees. This is already taking shape. He will not get anything through the congress. He’ll be tied up in congressional investigations and in court. The tea party will explode in numbers and will protest like never before and will hound him day and night wherever he goes. His own party will turn on him due to his being a total failure and his attempts to bypass the congress and the people (we the American people still love our constitution and our freedom, even some of the democrats). They will not be able to justify his radical unconstitutional criminal behavior. The media will smell blood in the water and go into a feeding frenzy. He will either be hounded out of office like Nixon or be the first American president in history to be impeached and removed!!

His co-conspirator, Joe Biden, too. Thank God we’ll have a strong conservative Republican (hint, hint—goodbye Boehner) as Speaker of the House!

If Romney wins, we’ll be fighting him tooth and nail every step of the way. Unfortunately, the RINOs in congress will support him and stab us in the back every chance they get. Romney’s first big government socialist item to try to get through is compulsory health insurance (RomneyCare) in all 50 states. Has already started a national healthcare task force to get it done. They claim it’s a “conservative solution,” is constitutional at the state level and boast that they already have 26 states lined up and ready to push it through (see keyword Bondi, Pam Bondi). He will do nothing for pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government, pro-liberty causes except give us lip service. His appointments will be moderates (liberals actually). We’ll have to fight him tooth and nail and here again, and the RINOs will cave. He’ll push stimulus spending and bailouts. He’ll push global warming. He’ll push shamnesty. And the RINOs will cave. He’ll trim around the edges some on spending and income taxes, but will try to increase “revenues” in other ways. He is not a deep cutter. He’s not a cutter at all. Has no intention of being anything but a moderate (liberal). And the RINOs will go along. If and when it comes time for re-election, they’ll push as never before to drop the nuisance social planks from the party platform to attract the independents and moderates and build their big tent. He’s deeply concerned for “women’s rights,” “minority rights,” “gay rights,” “immigrant rights,” “saving the planet,” saving us from “dangerous guns,” saving us peons from medical bankruptcy, saving too big to fail corporations, propping up the stock market and the financial institutions, saving us from inflation/deflation/depression, making government efficient and keeping the trains running on time. In other words, using/abusing federal powers to save us from ourselves. He thinks he’s a financial whiz, an executive genius and has the brainpower and know how to do it all. The only things he won’t think about trying to save is our inalienable rights or our constitution. All the other crap he’s going to try to solve is constitutionally reserved to the states and the people. That, will never occur to him.


73 posted on 05/03/2012 9:44:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: txrangerette; All

The country would sink under an Obama Supreme Court (not to mention his love of Executive Orders, Czars and allowing federal agencies to act outside of Congressional approval)...

We keep the House, take the Senate and White House and raise hell each and every time our public servants turn around in order to keep them honest (well, you know....).

Work locally and support conservatives in your area and states.

Never give up.


74 posted on 05/03/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NoLibZone

Nope.

Newt’s saying what he has to because he’s a Party guy.

I am no longer a Republican, therefore I don’t feel beholden to vote for a cowpie just because he has “R” after his name.


75 posted on 05/03/2012 10:04:07 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: Jim Robinson
IF he’s re-elected he’ll really be isolated with a Republican senate, too, and with the Republicans holding the majority of the governors and state legislatures.

If Obama wins, he'll be bringing the House and Senate with him. There won't be enough "ABR/pubbie down ticket" voters to produce any other result.

You really envision a scenario where Obama wins the election and Republicans make gains everywhere else?

76 posted on 05/03/2012 10:05:22 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Drew68

No, I seriously doubt Obama will win at all. Not that Romney’s a prize, but that Obama’s Marxist policies are universally despised by all liberty loving Americans. And I absolutely believe that the tea party rebellion will continue in November and beyond. We the people are pissed like never before!! Won’t take much more to make them literally explode.


77 posted on 05/03/2012 10:16:47 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Drew68

Anybody stupid enough to vote for Obama is going to vote a straight Democratic ticket—no way on earth will they split and vote “because we need Republicans in the House and Senate to balance the ticket”. All these people want is more something for nothing and they know ‘pubs won’t give it to them. Make no mistake, if Obama wins again he takes all his people back with him and then all bets are off. Say goodbye to the United States as it has been known since its birth.


78 posted on 05/03/2012 10:20:17 AM PDT by GoldwaterChick
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No doubt in my mind, Obama’s rigid goal is to Venezuela-ize this free land and to Hugo-ize his presidency.

People say Mitt’s court picks in MA were bad and would be for SCOTUS...folks, I don’t advocate for him here and believe we should not do so...I do advocate against a new Obama term. What we must do to any president is work like never before to demand good court picks and oppose bad ones.

For Obama: the unconstitutional decisions, his despotic executive orders, the czars, the alliance with the MSM and Hollywood, misuse and abuse of the military, appeasement of our enemies and opposition to our friends, etc is what we need to fight with all our might, preferably by denying him this precious office over this priceless country.

And if Mitt were to win, we still must stay adamantly focused on getting power and funds returned to the states where they belong and away from the federal leviathan that is killing everything we hold dear.

Federal, state, local level, try unceasingly to get staunch conservatives in office.

And I don’t mean Don Quixote tilting at windmills of endless hopeless causes.

This is still at heart a more conservative nation than a liberal one.

Flying off in all directions wildly aiming fire at whatever moves does not fit the situation, dire as it is.

Calm, smart, deliberate, principled, focused, determined, organized to win, will get results.


79 posted on 05/03/2012 10:23:21 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Jim Robinson
No, I seriously doubt Obama will win at all. Not that Romney’s a prize, but that Obama’s Marxist policies are universally despised by all liberty loving Americans.

I'm glad to see you post this.

80 posted on 05/03/2012 10:32:20 AM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: montanajoe

True words.


81 posted on 05/03/2012 10:35:53 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: Jim Robinson

You are a crazy man, and run amok on your own website!

YOU absolutely get it!

I’ve preached the same thing purple. Romney is a PROGRESSIVE, AND HAS SAID SO! SO IS MAXINE WATERS, and the rest of the Progressive Caucus, for crying out loud.

The souless GOPE will vote with, and for, Romney’s socialist/progressive agenda, I promise you that, but will fight that very same agenda, tooth and nail, when Obama offers up the same crap in a second term.

Look what they did under our last Republican president, GWB.
Crushing spending and crushing debt!

Even Boehner expects Obama to win, or else he would back with enthusiasm the contempt charges against AG Eric Holder.
Look around at the deafening silence on the subject of those contempt charges. These are your Party cabal who run this show and are running us.

The Republican Establishment is OPENLY running against conservatives in important states to dilute the few Tea Party gains, lending no support for conservatives anywhere.

We have no choice but to stop our own Party. The two parties have melled.

Fool me once........, but three times?

Dole, McCain, but now a Progressive Socialist, Romney?

Write in, or write yourself off, people. Your party has you cornered.

REBELLION IS TOO DAMN HARD, AND IT’S SCARY.

Freedom is never free.


82 posted on 05/03/2012 10:37:00 AM PDT by RitaOK (Nevermind, Newt. Forget the convention. I'm trusting God for the rest.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy; Cincinatus' Wife

His mind is so brilliant, and his head so full of knowledge and reason, yet you think all there is inside it now is, “I’m a Republican, and I have to say vote Republican”.

He’s a national treasure trove, a storehouse, a walking think tank, a political scientist, an historian, an American Exceptionalist.

He’s drawing on ALL that.

He could be wrong.

You could be wrong.

But what you said is, he has no other but a partisan reason to say what he says.

A real shame...I thought you supported him before because you drew a bead on what the guy has inside him to offer the nation.

Apparently not, you think he’s wearing a flashing neon partisan party sign and his head and heart are empty when it comes to America’s survival.

As far as your decision who and who not to vote for, it’s yours alone, absolutely.


83 posted on 05/03/2012 10:39:20 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: tet68
RE: #16, what you said!

Hell's bells, I don't care for Romney either, but Good God Almighty 4 more years of the big Zero and we won't have a country to worry about.

84 posted on 05/03/2012 10:44:39 AM PDT by Marathoner (At least Ann Romney won't tell us what to eat.)
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To: Jim Robinson; D-fendr; All
D-fendr, here's a WARRIOR'S common sense. People have to be forced and frightened into voting for Romney because their common sense would otherwise hold them back. Here's a warrior heeding common sense instead of letting blind fear squelch it. Here is COMMON SENSE:

.... Obama is without a doubt the worst president in American history. He’s already getting desperate thanks to we the tea party electing a Republican house. IF he’s re-elected he’ll really be isolated with a Republican senate, too, and with the Republicans holding the majority of the governors and state legislatures. He’s committing impeachable offenses at every turn already. After he’s completely isolated he will go berserk and REALLY try to take desperate steps. But we’re going to come down on him like a ton of bricks. The Republican led states will re-assert their tenth amendment powers and cut him off at the knees. This is already taking shape. He will not get anything through the congress. He’ll be tied up in congressional investigations and in court. The tea party will explode in numbers and will protest like never before and will hound him day and night wherever he goes. His own party will turn on him due to his being a total failure and his attempts to bypass the congress and the people (we the American people still love our constitution and our freedom, even some of the democrats). They will not be able to justify his radical unconstitutional criminal behavior. The media will smell blood in the water and go into a feeding frenzy. He will either be hounded out of office like Nixon or be the first American president in history to be impeached and removed!!

85 posted on 05/03/2012 10:50:27 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Jim Robinson; D-fendr; All
D-fendr, here's a WARRIOR'S common sense. People have to be forced and frightened into voting for Romney because their common sense would otherwise hold them back. Here's a warrior heeding common sense instead of letting blind fear squelch it. Here is COMMON SENSE:

.... Obama is without a doubt the worst president in American history. He’s already getting desperate thanks to we the tea party electing a Republican house. IF he’s re-elected he’ll really be isolated with a Republican senate, too, and with the Republicans holding the majority of the governors and state legislatures. He’s committing impeachable offenses at every turn already. After he’s completely isolated he will go berserk and REALLY try to take desperate steps. But we’re going to come down on him like a ton of bricks. The Republican led states will re-assert their tenth amendment powers and cut him off at the knees. This is already taking shape. He will not get anything through the congress. He’ll be tied up in congressional investigations and in court. The tea party will explode in numbers and will protest like never before and will hound him day and night wherever he goes. His own party will turn on him due to his being a total failure and his attempts to bypass the congress and the people (we the American people still love our constitution and our freedom, even some of the democrats). They will not be able to justify his radical unconstitutional criminal behavior. The media will smell blood in the water and go into a feeding frenzy. He will either be hounded out of office like Nixon or be the first American president in history to be impeached and removed!!

86 posted on 05/03/2012 10:53:36 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: txrangerette

Spot on.

Well said.


87 posted on 05/03/2012 10:53:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Finny

First, fear can be justified and useful for motivation.

Second, I see fear used on both sides, as well as peer pressure and all the other base tools to motivate action.

Third, I think we can discuss and debate the election on the issues and merits alone.


88 posted on 05/03/2012 11:11:02 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: NoLibZone

Virgil Goode

I am honored to be the nominee of the Constitution Party for the 2012 election. I offer a real difference from Romney and Obama. I want a balanced budget sooner and not five to ten years in the future. I favor measures that will secure our borders and end illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration. Unlike Obama and Romney, I have called for an almost complete moratorium for green card admissions into this Country while our unemployment rate is so high. Both Obama and Romney have run from taking this much needed step. Last year there were approximately 1.2 million green card entrants into this country. Over 2/3 of that number were working age individuals flooding into the job market when jobs in the United States should go to American citizens first. Obama favors comprehensive immigration reform, which is just a fancy name for amnesty for illegals. Romney needs to strongly support Arizona, Alabama and other states who are fighting the invasion of illegals. Obama, of course, has his Attorney General opposing the statutes of Arizona and Alabama. My views of totally ending illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration are needed if America is to be saved. Both Obama and Romney are weak in this area in my opinion. Both Obama and Romney are gouging huge amounts of campaign funds from PAC’s and big dollar donors. I am not taking any PAC donations, and am also limiting individual donations to $200 per person. It is time for grass roots America to have standing in our Government. I favor the many over the special few.


89 posted on 05/03/2012 11:33:28 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: Finny

BTW, even if your dream scenario occurs, we get Biden.

And all the rest of the regime still in place.

I think a better scenario is to remove the regime, all of it, from power all at once - soon.

thanks for your posts.


90 posted on 05/03/2012 11:42:23 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: BookaT

So take a look at Virgil Goode BookaT.


91 posted on 05/03/2012 11:44:25 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: BookaT

So take a look at Virgil Goode BookaT.


92 posted on 05/03/2012 11:44:48 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Maybe the horse will learn to sing)
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To: txrangerette
A real shame...I thought you supported him before because you drew a bead on what the guy has inside him to offer the nation.

I supported him because he was the best of the non-Romney's left. That doesn't imply that I ever thought he was brave enough to go off the GOP reservation, should he lose in the primary.

As it stands, I'll probably be voting for Santorum next Tuesday, since he's the only sane non-Romney who hasn't endorsed Romney, or at least not yet.

93 posted on 05/03/2012 12:22:26 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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To: DestroyLiberalism

Ditto. Silly not to vote for anyone besides Obama, for the judges and SCOTUS alone!


94 posted on 05/03/2012 1:11:23 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: Venturer
But lets look at it this way. Either you vote for Romney against Obama or it may be the last chance you ever get to vote.

If Obama gets re-elected, there is a chance, albeit a slim one, that a critical mass of people may come to realize that being elected does not grant politicians any sort of legitimate carte blanche to do anything and everything they might desire, and may refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the leftists' actions. I'm not sure exactly how many people would have to recognize the illegitimacy of Obama's actions to reach critical mass, nor am I sure how things would play out once critical mass was reached.

To be sure, that's not exactly a great ray of hope to latch onto. On the other hand, the country isn't going to survive a whole lot longer without a major turnaround no matter who's in office. If Romney is elected, is there any reason to believe that the situation in 2016 will be any better than the situation in 2012?

95 posted on 05/03/2012 4:23:50 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: txrangerette

“How is it up there on your high horse”

If you think knowing what ones principles are and sticking to them places him/her on a high horse..then guilty as charged


96 posted on 05/04/2012 12:26:35 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

Allowing Obama to be elected again doesn’t serve any principle I’d wish to support.


97 posted on 05/04/2012 3:21:23 AM PDT by GJones2 (What are our choices for president?)
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To: supercat

The only guarantee I can give you is that if Obama is elected it will certainly get worse.

Let’s face the real problem.
We have Democrats, not one or two,but all of them in the Congress that are as bad as Obama, and we have half the Republicans there who are also as bad.

We can replace Obama, and still not make any headway with a Congress that is absolutely as bad as any that ever sat on th Hill and sucked at the government teat.


98 posted on 05/04/2012 4:10:26 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: GJones2
Allowing Romney to pull the country further left by appointing liberal justices to SC to replace Kennedy and Scalia, justices who would never retire if Obama is elected, is not a principle I'd wish to support. Allowing the architect of Obamacree to impose a different plan than Obama is not a principle I'd wish to support. Allowing Romney to gut the military by making cuts that Obama could never make is not a principle I'd wish to support.
Electing a liberal and expecting him to act as a conservative is idiotic and is not a principle I can will support...
99 posted on 05/04/2012 6:38:32 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: DestroyLiberalism
I believe every one of us who stays home or votes third party in November is only going to ensure Obama gets re-elected and THAT to me is unacceptable!

Please see post 73 of this thread for an alternative view for scenarios more pleasing to conservatives who are making and have made their stands.
100 posted on 05/04/2012 6:57:01 AM PDT by Resettozero
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