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Health Law Strikedown May Disrupt Medicare
ABC News/Ass Press ^ | May 3, 2012 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 05/03/2012 4:10:19 AM PDT by upchuck

Tossing out President Barack Obama's health care law would have major unintended consequences for Medicare's payment systems, unseen but vital plumbing that handles 100 million monthly claims from hospitals and other service providers, the administration has quietly informed the courts.

Although the law made significant cuts to providers and improved prescription and preventive benefits for seniors, Medicare has been overlooked in a Supreme Court debate focused on the law's controversial requirement that individuals carry health insurance. Yet havoc in Medicare could have repercussions in an election year when both parties are avidly courting seniors.

In papers filed with the Supreme Court, administration lawyers have warned of "extraordinary disruption" if Medicare is forced to unwind countless transactions that are based on payment changes required by more than 20 separate sections of the Affordable Care Act.

Opponents argue that the whole law should go. The administration counters that even if it strikes down the insurance mandate, the court should preserve most of the rest of the legislation. That would leave in place its changes to Medicare, as well as a major expansion of Medicaid coverage.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: medicare; mediscare; obamacare; scotusobamacare
Okay, here we go.

1. Scare the hell outta the senior citizens.

2. Claim that it is TOO BIG to fail.

Where have we heard this before? "[E]xtraordinary disruption." Hmmm... Big Banks, Big GM, etc.

Sebelius and her thugs are working 24/7 implementing an incredibly complex web of rules and regulations that will make the IRS look like a piker.

nobama knows that if, "its changes to Medicare, as well as a major expansion of Medicaid coverage," are not implemented, his fraud and house of cards will be laid bare for all to see. Criminal.

I certainly hope the SCOTUS sees this for what it is.

1 posted on 05/03/2012 4:10:27 AM PDT by upchuck
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To: upchuck

ABC News/Ass Press. How fitting.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 4:14:42 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: upchuck

The SCOTUS cannot allow itself to be swayed by political crap like this. They must rule by the constitution! This ObamaCare mandated crap is unquestionably unconstitutional!!


3 posted on 05/03/2012 4:19:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: upchuck

Did they mention the money Obama has already cut from Medicare?


4 posted on 05/03/2012 4:20:22 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s unconstitutional and they shouldn’t take so long in saying so!


5 posted on 05/03/2012 4:20:40 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: upchuck

This is another one of Pelosi’s...”we have to pass it, to see what’s in it” tricks.

What’s in it now turn out to be destructive of Medicare if you repeal the bill, but if you don’t repeal it, all is hunky dory.

Even if true, and that’s key, even if true, it could be fixed by legislation or even Sebelius’s rule making, by their theory anyway, that she’s practically a dictator.

All this does to me, is make me VERY,
VERY ANGRY.

Also pose this question...if the papers on this were filed SECRETLY with the court, how would the law’s opponents be able to file papers countering it?

Is this truly something the law’s opponents have been shut out from arguing?

That cannot stand.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 4:20:51 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: upchuck

Scare tactics Saul Lewinsky 101.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 4:25:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: txrangerette

>> Also pose this question...if the papers on this were filed SECRETLY with the court

“Papers filed” does not equal “papers read and acted upon by the justices”.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 4:26:51 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Are you serious?

I’m referring to the process.

It can’t be allowed that you file secret arguments with the court, to the effect a governmental system ie Medicare payments will collapse if the law is struck down.

They must be publically available and available to opponents.

Suppose in a murder trial, or a fraud trial, the state was able to file something with the judge, or put something in the pipeline to the jury, that the defense didn’t even know about?

My comment didn’t relate to what SCOTUS decided to do with the filings.

The process can’t be furtive and behind the scenes.

That would always be WRONG.


9 posted on 05/03/2012 4:36:12 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: upchuck

The thing was set up like this for this express reason. They set it up so that it would tie itself into knots we couldn’t untangle before it even came into effect. We have already spent a ton of money on it, and now they say it ties into medicare too strongly.

The whole thing was a set-up ,do away with it in it’s entirety.
We can straighten out the mess easier than we can live with Obamacare.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 4:36:33 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Jim Robinson

There is an international “committee” of jurists working to implement UN-inspired legal rule globally. One of them is named Jon Wessel-Aas. Last I saw from him, he was going after Scalia.


11 posted on 05/03/2012 4:45:19 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: upchuck
Where is this coming from. The USSC has already heard the case.

The bus is on the way. Obama accidently pushes Sebelius. Oh no.....

12 posted on 05/03/2012 4:50:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: upchuck

SCOTUS is not responsible for the fact that the Democrats screwed this up royally and SCOTUS is not responsible for fixing the screw up.

SCOTUS’s only job is to determine which parts of the law are constitutional and which ones are not.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 4:59:01 AM PDT by randita
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To: b4its2late
Monica is to Bill, what Barack is to Saul.
14 posted on 05/03/2012 5:10:23 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: upchuck

Sorry Gramps, MEDICARE is not gonna pay for your mandatory end-of-life counseling sessions unless the USSC OK’s Obamacare


15 posted on 05/03/2012 5:12:11 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: upchuck

I don’t care what the consequences as long as Obamacare is pulled down, stomped flat, thrown in the pit and set ablaze.

I want a message sent screaming all across the land that if it even has the faintest whiff of socialism out it goes with the trash, even if it drags other things with it.

Communism is an infection, so is Islam. And Obama has managed to combine the two to “change” America.


16 posted on 05/03/2012 5:13:21 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: upchuck

WTF?


17 posted on 05/03/2012 5:17:03 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: upchuck

They will delay payments even IF it doesn’t affect it just to scare the seniors and make them vote for the communists.

This makes me SICK.


18 posted on 05/03/2012 5:29:24 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Gingrich/West 2012)
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To: Dusty Road

Shhhh! THAT is never mentioned.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 5:39:48 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: upchuck

Leftie scare tactic from page 101 of the manual. ABC has their own autographed copy.


20 posted on 05/03/2012 5:43:21 AM PDT by SueRae (The Tower of Sauron falls on 11.06.2012)
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To: upchuck

In other news, a reknowned scientist from the Progressive (Not Liberal) Center for Really Scientific Matters hinted that negation of the groundbreaking Obamacare Health Plan will cause the earth to break from its orbit and go spiralling into the sun. “We expect a solar meltdown in a few billion years,” said scientist and former prostitute Rev. Dr. Jimmy Money, “but if the Supremes overrule our Beloved Leader on this, it will accelerate that timetable considerably.”

Money explained that only President Obama’s “good graces” keep at bay the powerful gravitational forces of the sun, and that to earn his ire is to threaten the very order of Nature.

“Einstein said that God does not play dice with the Universe. Are you willing to challenge God, Einstein, and Obama? I’m not!”


21 posted on 05/03/2012 5:49:38 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: upchuck
Seems to me modern computer systems that handle these transactions are fully capable of being rapidly reprogrammed.

Even old people know about computers!

22 posted on 05/03/2012 6:13:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: txrangerette

>> It can’t be allowed that you file secret arguments with the court

No, it can’t be allowed.

And upon careful reading of the entire article, nowhere does it say “secret arguments” were filed with the SC.

In fact, upon careful reading, it looks like there is NO NEW INFORMATION at all in the article.

It’s just a liberal-spun “what if” rehash of what has already occurred.

Much hyperventilation about nothing new at all.


23 posted on 05/03/2012 6:22:09 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: upchuck

Proof positive that SCOTUS is about to scuttle this turkey.

Lamestream media already setting the table for “frighten the old folks and blame Republicans”. And they aren’t waiting till the ruling is in to start this.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 6:40:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: upchuck

But this worked in NYC:

A few years ago, the MTA wrongfully raised fares, signs were changed and a lawsuit was filed.

At trial, the MTA successfully argued that even if the fare hike was wrong, to change the signs back would be wasteful.

The NY court agreed.

Hopefully, SCOTUS won’t be swayed by such foolishness.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 7:26:18 AM PDT by Vesuvian
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To: All
This is essentially "too big to fail," isn't it? None of these "arguments" should be a consideration of the Supreme Court. They should only be concerned with constitutionality, not fallout from bad policy.

"Disruption" arguments can be made about all manner of landmark decisions.

26 posted on 05/03/2012 7:52:36 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: Jim Robinson

The MSM is hyping the news that Obama is a Medicare fraud fighter with the recent indictments of some health care operators, however what is intentionally ignored in these news stories is that the Bush administration in 2007 first implemented the Medicare Fraud Strike force operations, which were expanded by President Bush through 2008.

Most of the recent medicare fraud cases touted by Obama were begun under the Bush Administration since all such complex health care fraud investigation cases take years to develop and come to the federal indictment phase.


27 posted on 05/03/2012 12:28:06 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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