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MoveOn’s Quest to Outlaw the Term “Illegal Immigrant” [claims its hate speech - barf]
FrontPageMag ^ | May 3rd, 2012 | Joseph Klein

Posted on 05/03/2012 6:40:29 AM PDT by kevcol

Just when you would think that the far Left Obama booster organization MoveOn.org could not get any more ridiculous, it sinks to ever lower levels of absurdity. The latest example involves MoveOn’s push to render the phrase “illegal aliens” or “illegal immigrants” hate speech.

A video posted last week at MoveOn.org’s website charges that calling illegal immigrants “illegal” fits the definition of a hate crime and calls for the word “illegal” to be abolished when describing individuals entering the United States illegally. They would prefer using adjectives such as “undocumented” immigrants or “unauthorized” immigrants.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderjumpers; colonizers; criminals; foreigners; freedomofspeech; gatecrashers; illegals; intruders; invaders; lawbreakers; moveon; nonimmigrants; nonsense; obamanation; occupiers; pc; ruleoflaw; squatters; unautorized; undocumented
The only question is which Marxist in Congress will draft and sponsor the bill....so many possibilities.
1 posted on 05/03/2012 6:40:35 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

They might have a point. Let me suggest Criminalien instead.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 6:46:35 AM PDT by C210N (Wanted: Tagline)
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To: kevcol
The only question is which Marxist in Congress will draft and sponsor the bill....so many possibilities.

Would that not constitute Congress, once again in defiance of the US Constitution's Bill of Rights, making a law abridging free speech?

I will call them "illegal immigrants" in defiance of democrats and congress which I hold in personal contempt anyway.

3 posted on 05/03/2012 6:48:40 AM PDT by Rapscallion (For English press "3", or "4". Whatever.)
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To: kevcol

How about invaders, squatters, interlopers, antagonists, intruders, encroachers, intruders, gatecrashers, border jumpers, colonizers?


4 posted on 05/03/2012 6:48:55 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kevcol
Next on the list.
Illegal murderer.
Illegal bank robber.
Illegal drug dealer.
Illegal child molester. . . . .
These are just misunderstood souls, needing another chance. . .
5 posted on 05/03/2012 6:49:18 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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To: kevcol

No problem as I feel the term illegal immigrant is just some more partial wordsmithing by liberals.

Lets use a term which accurately describes what they are:

Criminal trespassers!

They are trespassing therefore they are criminals. How is that hate?


6 posted on 05/03/2012 7:01:23 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; B4Ranch; Carry_Okie; Tennessee Nana; ...

aliens; borderjumpers; colonizers; criminals; foreigners; ; gatecrashers; illegals; intruders; invaders; lawbreakers; nonimmigrants; occupiers; squatters; unautorized; undocumented....PING!


7 posted on 05/03/2012 7:02:16 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kevcol

I whole heartedly agree as they should be defined properly as undocumented socialist or liberals.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 7:05:12 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: AuntB; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

AuntB, please refrain from using the terms ‘illegal alien’ and ‘illegals’ in your comments.

That is offensive to those ‘hard working Americans’ who snuck across the border to come here and ‘pay their taxes’, err I mean collect those tax credit (welfare) checks for all their kids in Mexico.

Viva Obama, Viva McCain, Viva Graham!


9 posted on 05/03/2012 7:08:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: AuntB; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; B4Ranch; Carry_Okie; ...
...... aliens; borderjumpers; colonizers; criminals; foreigners; gate-crashers; illegals; intruders; invaders; lawbreakers; non-immigrants; occupiers; squatters; unauthorized; undocumented....

All good ---- all very descriptive.

But this word sums up neatly the mindset, character, thieving activities and proclivities of illegals---"SAVAGES."

10 posted on 05/03/2012 7:15:52 AM PDT by Liz
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To: kevcol
How about calling them,

"Uninvited Immigrants".

11 posted on 05/03/2012 7:23:39 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: kevcol

How about we instead outlaw the term “MoveOn.org”?


12 posted on 05/03/2012 7:24:05 AM PDT by jmax (Ticks suck (blood).)
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To: kevcol

How about “enemy combatants”, with all the perks that title holds!


13 posted on 05/03/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by meyer (Fluke - the new "F" word)
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB
AuntB, please refrain from using the terms ‘illegal alien’ and ‘illegals’ in your comments.....it's "offensive" to hard working Third Worlders who violated our borders, just here for "a better life" and to do the jobs Americans won't do .....and to scam and steal using multiple identities...including $$billions of EITC tax credit checks for non-existent kids "left behind" in Mexico.

Treasury Department Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

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The "just here for a better life" crowd who freely violate our borders and "do the jobs Americans won't do" have more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identitues for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names. Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker.

Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards.

14 posted on 05/03/2012 7:31:46 AM PDT by Liz
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To: kevcol

Well then how about “unlawful entry” person?


15 posted on 05/03/2012 7:47:07 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: kevcol
“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”“illegal immigrants”

It's a great term. Almost as good as 'brain-dead liberals'... That the next 'hate speech? Soon they'll try to outlaw us mocking them...

16 posted on 05/03/2012 7:48:26 AM PDT by GOPJ ("A Dog In Every Pot" - freeper ETL)
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To: kevcol
I agree, “illegal immigrant” is technically wrong because the word “immigrant” has historically referred to foreign citizens who become “permanent residents” of the US and have been issued a “green card.” Using the word “immigrant” for these illegals smirches the millions came to this country properly.

The proper designation should be “illegal alien.”

17 posted on 05/03/2012 8:00:07 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: kevcol
They would prefer using adjectives such as “undocumented” immigrants or “unauthorized” immigrants.

Ok, I can agree to stop calling the Illegal Immigrants, because that really doesn't describe them accurately. How about this one?

"Criminal Entrant"

I got this from Hillbuzz where Robert James has a great post about this issue here: http://hillbuzz.org/the-left-got-it-right-lets-drop-the-i-word-50071

18 posted on 05/03/2012 8:17:17 AM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Breitbart sent me)
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To: Bush_Democrat
Oops! Link HERE
19 posted on 05/03/2012 8:19:15 AM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Breitbart sent me)
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To: kevcol
OK, lets not call them illegal immigrants, lets just call them criminals. It works for me. Illegal immigrant, is a term that implies to me that they might have let their visa lapse and are still paying taxes and being productive members of the economy. If the wack-job libs don't like the term, lets just call them criminals.

On another matter, wasn't it the National Socialist Party and the Communist Party that were big on identity papers and not allowing travel freely between places? I guess from a historical basis, we could look up what a person traveling with out proper authorization was called in such places and use that term. Oh, yeah the term was often “dead.”

Maybe Illegal Immigrant doesn't sound so bad after all. (/sarcasm)

20 posted on 05/03/2012 8:19:21 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: kevcol

“Immigrants”

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/26/opinion/passel-cohn-mexican-immigration/index.html

“From 1995 through 2000, we estimate that 3 million Mexicans moved to the United States, and nearly 700,000, including family members born in the United States, went home.”

Immigrants struggle to make it in their new home. Disgruntled, uninvited foreign `guests’ go home.
They aren’t immigrants. They are aliens here in knowing violation of our laws, thanks to Tio Sucar.


21 posted on 05/03/2012 8:19:37 AM PDT by tumblindice (He walks, he talks, he crawls on his belly like a rrrrrrrrreptile--Mitt Romney)
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To: kevcol

No problem. I prefer to use the term “illiegal alien” anyway.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 8:25:45 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: kevcol

Let’s outlaw MoveOn.org, instead.


23 posted on 05/03/2012 8:31:33 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: kevcol

That’s funny, Justice Sotomayor used the term “illegal aliens” during the arguments on the AZ illegal immigration statute last week.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 8:31:59 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: kevcol

Every time you see “moveon.org” on ANY AND EVERY website you see it, add to the comments that they are misnamed, and that the correct name is BOWELMOVEMENT.org


25 posted on 05/03/2012 12:32:03 PM PDT by Yehuda (www.jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Liz; sickoflibs; All

I just ran across this article,didn’t see it on FR. Remember when Obama administration allowed thousands of ‘palestinians’ to immigrate...We will not be able to get rid of them no matter what they do!

on Apr 23, 2012
Arrested 35 Times, Illegal Immigrant Sofyan Eldani Still Not Deported (just IMAGINE what this has cost!)

In Alabama, federal authorities said they have tried to deport Sofyan Eldani, a Palestinian man, who has been arrested 35 times in 12 years, but several countries have refused to take him.

In addition, news reports claim that because Eldani says he’s from Palestine, the U.S. government cannot send him there — because the country isn’t officially recognized. Thus, you can’t send a man to a place that doesn’t exist.

Eldani’s arrests include: assault, fraudulent checks, criminal mischief, resisting arrests, reckless endangerment, shoplifting, burglary, drug possession, failure to appear, probation violation, possession of a drug paraphernalia and DUI.

Last week, Eldani was arrested by Hueytown, Alabama police after he was found during a traffic stop to be in possession of crack cocaine.

Eldani has nine convictions, including four felonies, and served six months in an Alabama prison for receiving stolen property.

Why can’t he be deported?

Hueytown, Alabama Police Chief Chuck Hagler claims that Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) says that Eldani cannot not be deported to Palestine because the U.S. government does not officially recognize Palestine as a country.

Eldani said he is a native of Palestine, though he carries an Egyptian passport.

However, Temple Black, a spokesman for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), released a statement that did not mention Palestine:

“Sofyan Eldani was previously detained by ICE and ordered removed to Egypt. ICE made a travel document request to Egypt. Mr. Eldani made travel document requests to Egypt, Israel and Kuwait.”

“When authorities in those countries declined to provide the appropriate travel documents to facilitate Mr. Eldani’s removal, he was released from ICE custody due to the Supreme Court’s ruling in Zadvydas v. Davis.”

“The Zadvydas decision generally allows ICE to detain aliens who are subject to a final order of removal only for a period of time deemed reasonably necessary to effectuate their removal.”

“ICE makes every possible effort to remove all final-order aliens within a reasonable period, which the Supreme Court has determined is 180 days. After that period, if the actual removal cannot occur within the reasonably foreseeable future, ICE must release the alien.”

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/arrested-35-times-illegal-immigrant-sofyan-eldani-still-not-deported


26 posted on 05/03/2012 12:50:25 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kevcol

Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. John 3:20


27 posted on 05/03/2012 1:06:24 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Follow the money on both sides of the border.)
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To: AuntB; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3
RE :”I just ran across this article,didn’t see it on FR. Remember when Obama administration allowed thousands of ‘palestinians’ to immigrate...We will not be able to get rid of them no matter what they do!

I heard on FNC and MSNBC (so it must be true) that they and illegals are BOTH natural conservatives and could be easily converted to Republican.

They said all we have to do is provide amnesty and abandon Israel and they will all join the Tea Party..How come we havent tried that yet?

28 posted on 05/03/2012 1:16:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us.)
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To: AuntB

And Invading Barbarians.


29 posted on 05/03/2012 1:18:41 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: sickoflibs

” I heard on FNC and MSNBC (so it must be true) that they and illegals are BOTH natural conservatives and could be easily converted to Republican.”

Heck, it they’re anything like the guy I just posted about that’s been arrested 35 times, we can’t even convert them to HUMANS!


30 posted on 05/03/2012 1:31:26 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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