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Russia threatens to strike NATO missile defense sites
Washington Times ^ | May 3, 2012 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 05/03/2012 12:33:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

Russia’s most senior military officer said Thursday that Moscow would preemptively strike and destroy U.S.-led NATO missile defense sites in Eastern Europe if talks with Washington about the developing system continue to stall.

“A decision to use destructive force preemptively will be taken if the situation worsens,” Russian Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov said at an international missile defense conference in Moscow attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.

The threat comes as talks about the missile defense system, which the U.S. and its allies insist is aimed at Iranian missiles, appear to have stalled.

“We have not been able to find mutually-acceptable solutions at this point and the situation is practically at a dead end,” Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said.

Ellen Tauscher, the U.S. special envoy for strategic stability and missile defense, insisted the talks about NATO plans for a missile defense system using ground-based interceptor missiles stationed in Poland, Romania and Turkey were not stalemated.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: chicoms; chinarussia; comradeobama; dreams; flexibility; kgbputin; medvedev; missile; missiledefense; nato; newworldorder; nuke; nwo; obama; openmike; putin; russia; strike; usdisarmament; war
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Posted by myself and caww.

Serious posturing by the Russians, they do not want anti missile technology in Europe that they do not control.

1 posted on 05/03/2012 12:33:39 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot; caww

Ping!


2 posted on 05/03/2012 12:34:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Barry promised that he will give the Russkis “more flexibility” to nuke the hell out of us after the morons in this country reelect him.


3 posted on 05/03/2012 12:36:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life. - Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
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To: Navy Patriot
It's almost as if the Russians see Obama as being weak.

Very weak.

4 posted on 05/03/2012 12:36:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Admin Moderator

Breaking sidebar?


5 posted on 05/03/2012 12:37:53 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Navy Patriot

It’s 3 AM and the phone is ringing.

Do you know where your POTUS is?


6 posted on 05/03/2012 12:38:04 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Screw Russia.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 12:38:20 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: All

“Russian Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov said”

Too much Vodka.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Navy Patriot

No need to give credit here..carry on as you will but I knew you’d be interested. Thanks for putting it up.


9 posted on 05/03/2012 12:42:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: Navy Patriot

Lovely, so games like Call of Duty and Battlefield 3 are starting to look like premonitions.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 12:44:23 PM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: BenLurkin

Almost? They smell the blood in the water all the way from China - twice.


11 posted on 05/03/2012 12:44:33 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Navy Patriot
Vote for Osama Obama and the Soviets will see

MORE FLEXIBILITY FROM THE US


12 posted on 05/03/2012 12:45:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Navy Patriot

I guess Medvedev “forgot” to pass the message on to Putin....More flexability AFTER the election!!!


13 posted on 05/03/2012 12:47:43 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: All; caww
Thanks caww!

Russia intends to control oil, gas and much of the economy of Western Europe. Part of the plan is to cut off other suppliers of both oil and gas to Western and Eastern Europe.

Russia (along with China) will extend as much control as possible over Mid East oil and gas, Iran and Syria for now after recently losing (temporarily) Libyan oil. Part of this plan includes making Western Europe defenseless against Iranian missiles, Russians in control of the anti missile systems will get the message across, and Russia has stated they will allow the systems if they are manned by Russian personnel in the control rooms.

14 posted on 05/03/2012 12:47:43 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot
ZERO told them to wait until after the election. He would then make everything right.
I guess they don't believe him. Maybe they aren't as stupid as first thought. . . . .

15 posted on 05/03/2012 12:49:41 PM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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To: Navy Patriot

And of course, they did this knowing Obama will fold like a cheap suit.


16 posted on 05/03/2012 12:54:44 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Navy Patriot

The Russians saw how far our fearless reader bent over for the Camel Dung King of Saudi Arabia and will not accept anything less than Mubumble Odumbo bending over further for communist parasites.


17 posted on 05/03/2012 12:56:10 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Admin Moderator

This absolutely should be in Breaking.

Even just this threat will have a long term effect on U.S. - European relations, the French election, bringing Poland, et. al. back into the New Soviet Sphere, etc.

Even the Chinese and Indians will ask, “are we next.”

This is a very major power play by Putin and very serious. This is a new Cold War. Khrushchev backed down in 61 in Cuba, (to some extent.) This is potentially as serious, geo-politically, as that.


18 posted on 05/03/2012 1:01:06 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ain’t that special? See what an appeaser in the WH gets us?


19 posted on 05/03/2012 1:01:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Yikes!! I had a Dream of incoming invading force coming into our country surrounding Obama. Heaven Help Us!


20 posted on 05/03/2012 1:02:48 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: Wurlitzer

Think Yalta was bad? You ain’t seen nothing yet.


21 posted on 05/03/2012 1:05:24 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Navy Patriot

Pre-election bluster to make Obama look better. Obama has stated that he will sell Russia the farm after the 2012 election.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 1:07:01 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Logical me
Screw Russia.

Currently, we are strong enough to do so IF we have a CIC that will give the order.

If current policy continues, in a decade we won't even be able to stalemate like Korea. (Yep we're still at war there).

23 posted on 05/03/2012 1:07:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: BenLurkin
It's almost as if the Russians see Obama as being weak.

"almost?"

24 posted on 05/03/2012 1:14:09 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: Navy Patriot

Lot of sword rattling going on out there ... too bad there is a zer0 shaking in a corner of the WhiteHut having to have aids clean him up of his spewed vile. zer0 leader and eater of dogs. No wonder the ruskies are rattling a saber


25 posted on 05/03/2012 1:14:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: lightman

>It’s 3 AM and the phone is ringing.

>Do you know where your POTUS is?

“Ooh-ooh-ooooh! Ooh-ooh-ooooh! Mr Kotter, Mr Kotter, I know the golf course?


26 posted on 05/03/2012 1:15:54 PM PDT by BlueLandRed
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To: Navy Patriot
What about the spies knowing our codes? How about the Chinese coming near our subs? We are a more open society with known secrets stolen.

And what was that missile off of California?

What about exceptional allowed losses. You know that China wants to decrease its population. There are nutty people in charge of Russia and China. They are both bold lately since Obama has been in charge.

27 posted on 05/03/2012 1:17:07 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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28 posted on 05/03/2012 1:20:45 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Navy Patriot

I wonder if this includes Turkey.


29 posted on 05/03/2012 1:20:57 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: johngrace
Similar dream, mine involved notification and call to arms based on foot soldiers coming in from medico and amphibious landing craft via radio. The foot soldiers were confiscating vehicles and moving north. First thought was where are our planes? Dreamed same or similar dream two straight days this past week.

Should not be worried anyone. Dream about planes and a 911 style of attack on America took thirty years to come to fruition.

30 posted on 05/03/2012 1:21:49 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Logical me
Screw Russia.

I say the same thing, but if you're Putin, newly back in the saddle after a couple-year break, and you're looking across the Atlantic at a declining America with a candy-assed little muslim socialist in the White House who just begged Medvedev for time until after the November election... you'd make a move, too. These are big and heady times for America's enemies. If they ever wanted to push, now's the time. They know exactly what they're doing when they express support for democrats at election time.

31 posted on 05/03/2012 1:23:52 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: no-to-illegals
I find it possible myself. I do appreciate you sharing. Do you have more to the dream.

I had a few accurate personal dreams. Two became horribly true in their deaths. I prayed for their salvation. The other was a National dream not fulfilled totally yet.

32 posted on 05/03/2012 1:28:37 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace
This is about Europe, Particularly Western Europe.

Both Russia and China have several bones to pick with Europe, and up through the Serbian Kosovo war they haven't been able to pick 'em because of US (NATO) backing and influence.

No more. That backing will end or Russia (and China) will extract a steep price from us, and Europe.

If Russia controls European security (and safety from terrorist Muslim states), you will see major Economic cooperation of Western Europe with Russia (and China) and near nil with petro terrorist mid east states and Muslim agitating populations.

From your point of view, Russia is promoting and backing Christianity over Islam, and I'm not sure that is crazy at all.

33 posted on 05/03/2012 1:32:10 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: johngrace
I am not alarmed by dreams. Sometimes God sends messages in dreams, sometimes it is to prepare us. Worry not ... God's Will ... Will Be Done, and I believe with all my heart and soul God Loves America, or America would never have come to be. Rest easy FRiend. There is a rifle behind every blade of grass in our Nation.
34 posted on 05/03/2012 1:34:31 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Ellen Tauscher, the U.S. special envoy for strategic stability and missile defense, insisted the talks about NATO plans for a missile defense system using ground-based interceptor missiles stationed in Poland, Romania and Turkey were not stalemated.

She reiterated that the U.S.-built system, still in development, is being designed to shoot down Iranian intermediate-range missiles aimed at Europe, not Russian intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).

35 posted on 05/03/2012 1:35:26 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: lightman
It’s 3 AM and the phone is ringing.

Do you know where your POTUS is?


36 posted on 05/03/2012 1:36:00 PM PDT by C210N (Wanted: Tagline)
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To: Navy Patriot

My apology Navy Patriot, was off track on this thread also.


37 posted on 05/03/2012 1:37:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Navy Patriot
Well they might want to hear about this:

Huge Natural Gas From Methane Hydrates Process Developed And Europe has deposits.

38 posted on 05/03/2012 1:37:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Navy Patriot

Now we see the fruits of the Obama Doctrine: Peace through weakness.


39 posted on 05/03/2012 1:40:58 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Navy Patriot

Do you think they would have threatened a military strike on American and NATO installations if Ronald Reagan were President? Now that we have the panty-waist usurper and his retinue of kiss-asses, we need to get used to being pushed around!


40 posted on 05/03/2012 1:41:57 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Sworn to Defend The Constitution Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So Help Me GOD!)
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To: DBrow
I wonder if this includes Turkey.

It most certainly includes the oil and gas recently found off Turkey, Cyprus, and Israel, in the Med.

Just think of an Israel with all the oil and gas they need, with the rest going to Greece and/or China, denying it to Turkey.

North Sea oil is petering out Europe freezes and broke Greece has gas and oil; Israel too, for antisemitic Europe?

41 posted on 05/03/2012 1:42:48 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

A fine example of why a nation cannot negotiate from a position of weakness.

Obama has played into the hands of our enemies from his first day in office.

The Missle Defense Shield should have been constructed years ago.

The United States is seen, under this administration, as nothing more than a paper tiger.

EODGUY


42 posted on 05/03/2012 1:43:15 PM PDT by EODGUY (Hold on to your copies of the Consititution of the United States. It is going to be re-written.)
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To: Navy Patriot

The man has no military worth a damn and is merely blustering to sound important


43 posted on 05/03/2012 1:49:00 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: johngrace
Yikes!! I had a Dream of incoming invading force coming into our country surrounding Obama.

John, It's only a matter of time,this whole world is falling away,way beyond even Sodom and Gommorah

It won't take much to set ablaze this tinder box

44 posted on 05/03/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: BenLurkin
It's almost as if the Russians see Obama as being weak.

Very weak.

Or an ally with a common goal...

45 posted on 05/03/2012 1:50:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: MindBender26

Back then Kennedy the snorter did wake up. This time they are pretty sure Zero will fold.

It takes more than killing Osama...


46 posted on 05/03/2012 1:52:39 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And Europe has deposits.

So do we. A lot of it to.

47 posted on 05/03/2012 1:53:31 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: bert

“The man has no military worth a damn and is merely blustering to sound important”

Rewind 75 years, eh?


48 posted on 05/03/2012 1:53:45 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Navy Patriot

Obama’s weakness gives our enemies balls.


49 posted on 05/03/2012 1:54:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I guess the General did not get the memo,Obama is going to cave after the election,80% cut in our nukes and missile defense abandoned.Keep your pants on Ruskie,geesh


50 posted on 05/03/2012 1:54:47 PM PDT by ballplayer
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