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Russia threatens to strike NATO missile defense sites
Washington Times ^ | May 3, 2012 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 05/03/2012 12:33:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

Russia’s most senior military officer said Thursday that Moscow would preemptively strike and destroy U.S.-led NATO missile defense sites in Eastern Europe if talks with Washington about the developing system continue to stall.

“A decision to use destructive force preemptively will be taken if the situation worsens,” Russian Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov said at an international missile defense conference in Moscow attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.

The threat comes as talks about the missile defense system, which the U.S. and its allies insist is aimed at Iranian missiles, appear to have stalled.

“We have not been able to find mutually-acceptable solutions at this point and the situation is practically at a dead end,” Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said.

Ellen Tauscher, the U.S. special envoy for strategic stability and missile defense, insisted the talks about NATO plans for a missile defense system using ground-based interceptor missiles stationed in Poland, Romania and Turkey were not stalemated.

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To: Navy Patriot; All

SO...
1.) China announces several years back that they had begun an economic war against the US.
2.) Russia has been threatening NATO in regards to missile defense sites in Europe.
3.) NATO is meeting in Chicago at McCormick Place on the Near South Side in 2 weeks.
4.) There are planned “military exercises” for the NEXT week/weekend involving Russian paratroopers using US weapons and armament to “take and hold” the CIA main computer building in CO, the NSA main computer building in Utah, as well as Denver International Airport. Add to that the Chinese DESTROYERS, SUBS, and HOSPITAL SHIP that are sailing across the Pacific at this moment?

Anyone else a little confused as to how our President or our military can justify holding joint military exercises with countries who are threatening our safety and stability, and that of the entire Western World?

This smells to high heaven, especially when you add in the ties between these countries and terrorists, Fast and Furious and the connection between cartels and terrorist cells, Obama’s insistence on NOT enforcing illegal immigration laws...

Am I alone in seeing this, or are others (esp. current or former military personnel) seeing how bad this may indeed be. I fear that Obama is enough of an idiot to LET Russia and China take over thinking they’ll let him have a piece of the pie or something.

In other words am I the ONLY one that doesn’t trust the Russians and Chinese to actually LET GO of those sites once they’re inside???


82 posted on 05/03/2012 4:44:08 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: lightman

Yeah, organizing military training exercises WITH the Russians and the Chinese - what you expected him to PROTECT us?


83 posted on 05/03/2012 4:45:13 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: All
HEY ALL - Please read post #83 it's REALLY important in re: to planned upcoming "military training exercises" WITH Russia and the Chinese... See the "Threat Matrix" thread for more links and info. will post a reply to this post after I find the appropriate links.
84 posted on 05/03/2012 4:58:03 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: MindBender26

I don’t know where you get this. I wrote Osama as in Osama Bin Laden... It takes more than ordering a hit on Osama to insure global safety, it is a more comprehensive approach.

Of course, here the Soviet aparatus is somehow trying to trigger a default to UN and international bureaucratic subserviance in the creating of this problem, and they feel confident to navigate this political-military-bureau complex to their peace benefit.

This is a pretext because the Soviet/Russia aparatus sees itself losing on the Iranian front eventualy, looking like they are the real freaks of the world. So they have to precipitate a conflict over third party reasons such as the nuclear shield or what not.

As for Obama himself, he sure is inadequate to say the least, and punishing others of his own presence of incompetence in self hate, much like rapists do. He has lived by the rape as a raped child, and, much like a prostitute feminists who only see men through the prism of sex, it is all that Obama is looking at things, rape or accept being raped. He has no other imagination.

The automatisms of quick condemnation he preaches I do not, but discoveries, trials and tribulations it will be. The only ones threatening the President are those who are corrupt and who live by automatisms and empowerments - Columbia scandal style. That was an epic moment in making this bureaucratic thuggery acceptable in his own very bureaucratic circle. WHat was it he said? FORWARD? OH, really...

Of course, anyone else then is going to be picked at as a result... “Rusky” hypocrite style.


85 posted on 05/03/2012 5:03:10 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Navy Patriot

I haven’t been following this stuff for many years. I just think back to all the “it will never work” comments back at the start of the SDI programs. Guess it does work. If it didn’t the Russians wouldn’t be so worked up about it.


86 posted on 05/03/2012 5:07:26 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: LibertyRocks
Anyone else a little confused as to how our President or our military can justify holding joint military exercises with countries who are threatening our safety and stability, and that of the entire Western World?

It's the entanglements and stupid "relationships", the ones the ignoramuses of MFN/NAFTA/globalists claim to be for, yet they have no clue about real relationships beyond making a quick easy buck. The State Department is neck deep to the nose in that excrement of "relationships", these cowards who only think about getting first class tickets and medical care wherever they work, and having it all nicey nice around them, so much so they did not want to go to Iraq and do their jobs.

These relationships are a psycho passive aggressive behavior of our enemies, much like the psycho who wants to wear the same cloth as you and have the same looks and hair, before going to kill you. It's a two prongued attack, one with a nuclear face, the other with a nicey nice infiltration and control and destruction of identity resulting in a paralysis from ability to effectively retaliate.

87 posted on 05/03/2012 5:12:01 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: StolarStorm

But there also is a creepy motion by the RUssians here. They want to be nicey nice with us, controling the SDI project, stealing our jobs and identities, so to speak, being friends by force of threats, basically. And we are letting them intimidate us.

This is what it is all about: surrender or we will attack, in gradual fashions of “relationship” “building”.


88 posted on 05/03/2012 5:15:11 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: LibertyRocks
There is no doubt that Obama is NOT in control of anything, or you wouldn't hear anything about this. The only reason you do is because it was in Ria Novosti and Pravda a couple days ago, and the Western media had no choice.

Also, this is not about war, this is about control.

Russia is perfectly happy with the anti missile system being built, but Russia insists that Russians will have the root passwords to the system and Russian technicians will man the control centers for the missiles.

They are fine with it if they control the system. If not, it won't be built.

Zero can play tough and give the Russians the passwords and control centers quietly, APPEARING to back the Russians down and build the system.

All of your examples are similar form of quiet cooperation with Russia and China, so yes, there is a pattern here.

89 posted on 05/03/2012 5:16:59 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: StolarStorm
Reagan's SDI definitely would and did work, and lead to this technology.

What few people remember is Reagan offered to share the SDI technology with the Russians (Gorbachev) to prove they could trust him and the US.

"Trust but verify" did work both ways and the Russians dealt with Reagan with respect and trust, Reagan returned the same with inspections for both sides, by both sides.

Not a shot was fired, not a shot was threatened, and the Soviet Union (and the Warsaw Pact) went away because it wasn't necessary.

Now look what Clintoon and Zero have wrought by being untrustworthy cowards.

We truly need a Ronald Reagan, wise strong, trustworthy.

90 posted on 05/03/2012 5:29:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: JudgemAll

My absolute stupidity.

Old eyes.

Sorry ‘bout that.


91 posted on 05/03/2012 6:23:09 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: wastedyears
Over to you,Vlad!
92 posted on 05/03/2012 7:46:19 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Navy Patriot

There is a big difference between attacking Georgia and attacking our missile defense system. We would be forced to respond. The Russkies know that.

Bush should have seen Georgia coming but for some reason he didn’t. I think he really thought he and .
Vlad were buddies. After the fact there wasn’t a lot he could do. Sarkozy carried our water on that one.


93 posted on 05/03/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We would be forced to respond.

Like we responded when our military assets were taken by North Korea and China?

These are also on foreign soil, and the state involved may not wish to incur the Russian wrath that would descend upon it for allowing the US to respond? When has France or Italy ever defended themselves?

What has happened to states cooperative with the US recently when they needed assistance like peaceful Egypt?

Finally would Zero give the order?

How many American cities would you sacrifice to protect France from Iranian missiles?

94 posted on 05/03/2012 8:39:52 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Like I said the Russians are good at threats. They are not going to attack a NATO missile shield. Not gonna happen. If The quisling we jokingly refer to as the president was not sitting in the oval office they probably wouldn’t even make that threat.


95 posted on 05/03/2012 9:00:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: lightman

Hiding under his desk.


96 posted on 05/04/2012 3:11:47 AM PDT by ustanker (You can't reach the unreachable!)
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To: Navy Patriot
They know that they must move quickly. While Obama is still in office, they can get away with it.

Russia, along with several other globalist entities including many American politicians and corporations, will not stand idly by and watch this once in a lifetime opportunity to “revolutionize” the world disappear.

The misery will not last very long - their wicked acts will come to an end.

97 posted on 05/04/2012 3:56:59 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Russia and China are aligned with Iran and those three will be soon aligned with the EU...just how in the world does that qualify as backing Christianity over Islam?


98 posted on 05/04/2012 4:13:31 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

There ya go.

The Russians know their “guy”...


99 posted on 05/04/2012 4:44:24 AM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Navy Patriot
America is Nato....

...obama is America.

And the Russians have pretty much figured out obama...

100 posted on 05/04/2012 4:54:43 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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