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Source: Zimmerman says Trayvon circled his SUV, frightened him
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 3May 2012 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 05/03/2012 3:46:07 PM PDT by ironman

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1 posted on 05/03/2012 3:46:19 PM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

source....The Duke case had a lot of “sources”, too.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 3:49:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ironman

If Trayvon did something threatening, while Zimmerman was in the SUV, why did he put himself in further danger by getting out?

He could have phoned the cops while in the SUV and drive off, if Trayvon tried to further threaten him.


3 posted on 05/03/2012 3:50:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: ironman
"It's either one or the other, it can't be both," Crump said. "We have to put together this puzzle because, unfortunately, we don't have Trayvon Martin's version" of events."

No, Mr. Chump, both are certainly possible. Trayvon's hand could have been covering Zimmerman's mouth at one point in time during the scuffle, and Zimmerman could have freed himself then screamed, or perhaps Zimmerman was screaming for help while the now dead black thug criminal was bouncing his his off the concrete, which I imagine would be more effective if done with two hands as opposed to one hand doing the bouncing while the other hand pushed down on the mouth...you G*ddamned moron.

4 posted on 05/03/2012 3:53:41 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Jonty30

Why didn’t Trayvon call 911 instead of talking to his girlfriend? IF he actually talked to his girlfriend. If he told her he was afraid why didn’t she call someone when she couldn’t get him to answer when she tried to call him back? I’m suspicious that he told her he was going to kick some white dude’s ass and she changed her story.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 3:54:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("It happened. And we let it happen." Peter Griffin - FAMILY GUY)
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To: Jonty30

“If Trayvon did something threatening, while Zimmerman was in the SUV, why did he put himself in further danger by getting out?”

Perhaps, as a neighborhood watchman, he was doing his job by getting good look at hoodie face to ID him the authorities.

He stood his ground.

I feel sorry for Junior Seau’s mother.

If Thugvon Martin’s mother loved him, she would have raised him not to be a punk ass hood rat.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 3:56:40 PM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: ironman

For the record, here is the transcript of Zimmerman’s 911 call.....

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html

He DOES mention Trayvon acting in a threatening manner, but he’s mostly too busy answering questions to give any detailed description.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 3:57:24 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: ironman
Zimmerman is not going to be convicted.

Sharpton and Jackson are going to use his acquittal to incite riots ala Rodney King and the bamster will use it as a campaign slogan.

8 posted on 05/03/2012 4:01:21 PM PDT by skimask
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To: Terry Mross

I’d like to see the police hook her up to a polygraph machine.


9 posted on 05/03/2012 4:05:39 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: ironman

Two related pages on releasing records.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Is-secrecy-justified-in-George-Zimmerman-case/-/1637132/12514756/-/item/0/-/j4gnokz/-/index.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Is-secrecy-justified-in-George-Zimmerman-case/-/1637132/12514756/-/item/1/-/j4gnojz/-/index.html


10 posted on 05/03/2012 4:07:47 PM PDT by ironman
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To: skimask

“Sharpton and Jackson are going to use his acquittal to incite riots ala Rodney King and the bamster will use it as a campaign slogan.”

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To what end?

To push the black Obama vote from 98% to 99%?


11 posted on 05/03/2012 4:09:19 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Non-Holder person.)
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To: skimask

Sharpton and Jackson are going to use his acquittal to incite riots
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

BRING IT FRIGGIN’ ON... I’M DOWN FOR IT!!


12 posted on 05/03/2012 4:13:52 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: ironman

Wait for all of the evidence to come out as a whole. Then give an essessment of what happened. Don’t do it on little scraps of evidence doled out one scrap at a time.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 4:16:41 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: JoeDetweiler

thanks for posting the transcript.

It is consistent with Z’s account that Martin stares at him, comes toward him, is ‘checking him out’...


14 posted on 05/03/2012 4:18:34 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ironman

Ever notice how it is almost always “Zimmerman” and “Travon” in the news.

Last name the stranger. First name the friend.

Never would the headline read: “Source: George says Martin circled his SUV, frightened him”


15 posted on 05/03/2012 4:21:03 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: ironman
a source familiar with the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel

Let me guess, his first name is Anonymous......damn, that guy gets around.

16 posted on 05/03/2012 4:21:24 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: EyeGuy

To scare all the soccer moms into voting for Obama to prevent the rioting that will occur if he loses. That’s what this is all about.


17 posted on 05/03/2012 4:22:08 PM PDT by TopDog2
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To: Terry Mross

And maybe Zimmerman was salivating at the prospect of blowing a black man’s head off?

Let’s try to stick with the facts and not to unnecessarily impugn somebody’s character, k?


18 posted on 05/03/2012 4:22:44 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: EyeGuy
To what end?

Don't forget that all of the urban crapholes where there will be riots are run by Democrats.

After the riots there will be lots of federal money to rebuild, and Obama can make sure it goes into the "right" pockets if it happens while he's still in office.

19 posted on 05/03/2012 4:25:41 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ironman

Is this maybe what happened? Zimmerman is knocked to the ground, Martin is on top of him smashing his head on the pavement, Zimmerman screams for help, Martin puts his hand over Zimmerman’s mouth to stop him from screaming for help. When Martin stops the smashing to shut Zimmerman up, Zimmerman is able to reach for his gun and in the ensuing struggle Martin is shot.

I can speculate just as well as the press and prosecution, see?


21 posted on 05/03/2012 4:35:08 PM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Sacajaweau

source....The Duke case had a lot of “sources”, too.

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Yes, and just like the Duke case... this will end badly - embarrassing badly - for Angela “Nifong” Corey and the race pimping Revs when Zimmerman is cleared of all bogus charges.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 4:37:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: EyeGuy
To push the black Obama vote from 98% to 99%?

Perhaps to push the black zer0 turnout from 60% to 99%...

23 posted on 05/03/2012 4:48:26 PM PDT by C210N (Wanted: Tagline)
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In other words, this is just the normal run-o’-the-mill mechanism for ‘rat GOTV.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 4:49:26 PM PDT by C210N (Wanted: Tagline)
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To: EyeGuy
To this end...

Dan 8:23 (Douay-Rheims)...

And after their reign [at the end], when iniquities shall be grown up, there shall arise a king of a shameless face [not his face per se, but his countenance...the way he appears to believers], and understanding dark sentences [he seems to know exactly what to do...exactly what his evil will begat...but we do not].
Just saying...
25 posted on 05/03/2012 4:56:04 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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We have here another really stupid assessment from a reporterette. Saying Martin’s hand over Zimmerman’s mouth was at odds with Zimmerman’s statement that he was screaming for help is ludicrous. The two actions are not exclusionary, in fact, they are in succession. The mostly likely reason Martin would have clamped his hand over Zimmerman’s mouth is because Zimmerman was screaming for help because Martin was on top of him, beating the crap out of him.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 5:18:38 PM PDT by citizen (Obama blames:arab spring,banks,big oil,bush,ceos,christians,coal,FNC,Jpn tsumani,T Party,wall st,you)
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“...is guilty of racial profiling...”

Is that a misdemeanor or a felony? Oh, wait, right. It’s not a crime.


27 posted on 05/03/2012 5:44:14 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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There is no conflict, here.

If someone is straddling your chest, and trying to stop you from screaming by putting their hand over your mouth, how effective do you think that is going to be? Assuming you are not just lying there passively, but are struggling and trying to scream.


28 posted on 05/03/2012 5:48:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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“source familiar with the investigation told the Orlando Sentinel”

Getting really sick of seeing garbage like this posted at DU and 3 minutes later it gets posted here.


29 posted on 05/03/2012 5:50:34 PM PDT by dewawi
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The source said Zimmerman's account of events hasn't changed in his several statements to police — in which he said he was so unnerved by the teen's behavior that he rolled up his window to avoid a confrontation. However, he never mentioned any of that while talking to the dispatcher.

So what? That means squat....who says he had to mention that to report the person who eventually attacked him?

By the way, the media keeps ignoring the evidence of Zimmerman's bloody head, but continues to remind us that Zimmerman's attacker, Saint Skittles of Sanford, was "unarmed".

30 posted on 05/03/2012 6:02:05 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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If Zimmerman was going to shoot his attacker, why did he call 911? Answer: he wasn’t planning to shoot Saint Skittles of Sanford, but when Zimmerman was attacked and had his head bloodied, he defended his life.


31 posted on 05/03/2012 6:04:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: skimask

I don’t think the trial will happen, if there IS a trial, until 2013. Then Obama’s successor will have to deal with the racists who will loot and burn cities.


32 posted on 05/03/2012 6:05:38 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Terry Mross

Why didn’t she call someone that night or speak up the next day while she was tweeting about Trayvon’s passing? Why’d she wait until 3/19 to speak to anyone?


33 posted on 05/03/2012 6:06:43 PM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe to cover his intents?

Now I’m not really saying that Zimmerman was out to cap a black man. I Just threw that out in response to thé claim Martin was out to beat a white man for fun.


34 posted on 05/03/2012 6:11:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: ironman

Done.


35 posted on 05/03/2012 6:12:13 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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Maybe to cover his intents?

Now I’m not really saying that Zimmerman was out to cap a black man. I Just threw that out in response to thé claim Martin was out to beat a white man for fun.


36 posted on 05/03/2012 6:12:46 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: dewawi

“Getting really sick of seeing garbage like this posted at DU and 3 minutes later it gets posted here.”

Then stay away from DU. Problem solved.


37 posted on 05/03/2012 6:20:42 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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Why?

Beating whitey seems like the latest black pass time to me.

Seems like they go out of their way to gang up on whites all over the country.


38 posted on 05/03/2012 6:21:04 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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I’m surprised you haven’t capped a few, because you thought they were a threat to you, then.

Do you run from little black grandmothers as well?


39 posted on 05/03/2012 6:27:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Terry Mross; Jonty30; meatloaf

There was a thread on FR within the last 10 days where someone had posted the supposed girlfriend’s (more of a Hussein’s composite gf) facebook entries. It was obvious she wasn’t on the phone with him and wasn’t so devistated that she had to be hospitalized which prevented her from attending her beloved’s funeral. Yes, the girl exists but they weren’t romatically involved and they weren’t on the phone together that night. Put all that in the garbage because it was invented for the sympathy vote.


40 posted on 05/03/2012 6:39:51 PM PDT by bgill
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Quite possibly. I would never deny any possible facts of the situation and the trial will be interesting to see.

I’m just into assuming the worst of people, unless the evidence is clear to support it. Usually Occam’s Razor is the most accurate and I try to stick with it as much as I can.

I personally presume that both men were acting relatively rational in their respective situations and all we know for certain is that one young man is deaf and the other is trying to save himself from jail.


41 posted on 05/03/2012 6:48:52 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Proud2BeRight
Ever notice how it is almost always “Zimmerman” and “Travon” in the news.

Last name the stranger. First name the friend.

Never would the headline read: “Source: George says Martin circled his SUV, frightened him”

Very interesting. You're right.

42 posted on 05/03/2012 6:49:23 PM PDT by ladyjane
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The article posted screen shots of the the girl’s FB pages and from what I saw she was definitely not Martin’s gf. She was interested in some other guy and was texting her girl friends that night about general girl stuff and was out shopping with her mom the following morning. When she did hear about Martin’s death, she merely posted something like RIP and he’d be missed but then went on texting her friends about other stuff. So, that story about him being on the phone with her that the family has been spreading is nothing but hogwash.


43 posted on 05/03/2012 6:54:32 PM PDT by bgill
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As I said, that may very well be. I wouldn’t deny the possibility of it.

I’m just waiting for the trial, so all the facts can be put on the table and see what the real story might be.

That doesn’t change my position at this point in time.


44 posted on 05/03/2012 6:58:24 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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No, smartass, because little black grandmothers generally aren’t dangerous.

Young black males, on the other hand, are, and they have been noted as such.

Furthermore, if one or more young black males ever place my life or anyone else’s life who may happen to be in my presence in danger, then guess what...


45 posted on 05/03/2012 7:09:48 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Good catch.

“Referring to Martin by his first name and Zimmerman by his last is just one small tactic in the national media campaign to make Martin’s death an enduring symbol of white racism.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/05/trayvon_and_zimmerman_the_structure_and_elements_of_a_disinformation_campaign.html


46 posted on 05/03/2012 8:00:40 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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re “Dee Dee” who in fact is almost certainly not Martin’s “girlfriend” if this guy’s research is legit (go about halfway down for Facebook posts & pics):

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/


47 posted on 05/03/2012 8:05:21 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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From the linked article: "Gilbreath described that as one of the inconsistencies in Zimmerman's story — because getting out of the vehicle and looking for the teen is not the act of someone who is afraid."

Spoken like a true coward who doesn't understand that "bravery" is doing one's duty despite being afraid. There is nothing brave about facing a situation that instills no fear.

48 posted on 05/03/2012 8:08:49 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: maxwellsmart_agent
Wait for all of the evidence to come out as a whole. Then give an essessment of what happened. Don’t do it on little scraps of evidence doled out one scrap at a time.
Hear, hear!
But of course, if the general public took that attitude, journalism would be seen to be far less important on a day-to-day basis than journalism wants and needs to be seen as. And what fun would there be in that for journalists?
And what is convenient, useful, and yes, fun for journalists is the only consideration. To journalists.

49 posted on 05/04/2012 12:38:43 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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>>>Ever notice how it is almost always “Zimmerman” and “Travon” in the news.

Last name the stranger. First name the friend.<<<

It could also be, last name - the adult, first name - the child, but I wouldn't necessarily put too much weight on it.

It could just be that they used the most distinctive names, (which, of course, helps tell their deceitful story).

50 posted on 05/04/2012 5:39:13 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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