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Russia's military threatens pre-emptive strike if NATO goes ahead with missile plan
Fox News ^ | May 03, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/03/2012 4:29:29 PM PDT by carriage_hill

MOSCOW – Russia's top military officer has threatened to carry out a pre-emptive strike on U.S.-led NATO missile defense facilities in Eastern Europe if Washington goes ahead with its controversial plan to build a missile shield.

President Dmitry Medvedev said last year that Russia will retaliate militarily if it does not reach an agreement with the United States and NATO on the missile defense system.

Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov went even further Thursday. "A decision to use destructive force pre-emptively will be taken if the situation worsens," he said at an international conference attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.

Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov also warned on Thursday that talks between Moscow and Washington on the topic are "close to a dead end."

U.S. missile defense plans in Europe have been one of the touchiest subjects in U.S.-Russian relations for years.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: diplomacy; idlethreat; nato; russia; war; wardiplomacy
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To: carriage_hill

COPY AND PASTE of my post on the other Breaking News Thread. I wonder how many people know the following;
SO...
1.) China announces several years back that they had begun an economic war against the US.
2.) Russia has been threatening NATO in regards to missile defense sites in Europe.
3.) NATO is meeting in Chicago at McCormick Place on the Near South Side in 2 weeks.
4.) There are planned “military exercises” for the NEXT week/weekend involving Russian paratroopers using US weapons and armament to “take and hold” the CIA main computer building in CO, the NSA main computer building in Utah, as well as Denver International Airport. Add to that the Chinese DESTROYERS, SUBS, and HOSPITAL SHIP that are sailing across the Pacific at this moment?

Anyone else a little confused as to how our President or our military can justify holding joint military exercises with countries who are threatening our safety and stability, and that of the entire Western World?

This smells to high heaven, especially when you add in the ties between these countries and terrorists, Fast and Furious and the connection between cartels and terrorist cells, Obama’s insistence on NOT enforcing illegal immigration laws...

Am I alone in seeing this, or are others (esp. current or former military personnel) seeing how bad this may indeed be. I fear that Obama is enough of an idiot to LET Russia and China take over thinking they’ll let him have a piece of the pie or something.

In other words am I the ONLY one that doesn’t trust the Russians and Chinese to actually LET GO of those sites once they’re inside???


21 posted on 05/03/2012 5:04:37 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: carriage_hill
I'm afraid I would not make much of a diplomat.

I simply decline to make a fetish of parsing my words.

If I were the US president, I would instruct my embassador to Russia to inform the Russian president that he really does not want to attack the American military, in any country. And if he believes otherwise, he would be well advised to reconsider.

Like I said, I am not a fan, at all, of diplomat-speak. In any context, whatsoever...

22 posted on 05/03/2012 5:05:44 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: carriage_hill
Wow the Russians are being stupid. Don't they understand obastard? He's a narcissist, which means he couldn't care less if thousands of Americans and millions of Russians die in a conflict to salve his ego.

Just wow.

23 posted on 05/03/2012 5:12:19 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: LibertyRocks

I know the 4 points you list, and have read/watched/monitored #3 part of #4 for the past few weeks on several sites.

What I’m not familiar with, is this part of #4:

“Add to that the Chinese DESTROYERS, SUBS, and HOSPITAL SHIP that are sailing across the Pacific at this moment?”

What’s that all about? First I’ve heard of it...


24 posted on 05/03/2012 5:14:02 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

I’d love to be “a fly on the wall” in those smoke-filled meeting rooms, hearing the truth instead of politic-speak BS we get fed.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 5:16:47 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill

Obama will answer this by giving Russia more of our technology. I guess the drone he gave Iran wasn’t enough. Pretty sad that when speaking of Obama, we have to say “he” instead of “we” or “us”. Damn sad.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 5:20:08 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

He’s downright and outright treasonous; yes, it’s sad that our CIC is a POS. This poseur-president actually makes BJ look not-so-bad, in comparison. And that’s really sad.


27 posted on 05/03/2012 5:25:43 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: DManA

Yeah, that red button was visually the wrong message to send, no matter what it explained in words along with it. Some stuff out there works in irony and dangerous jokes that have subconscious meanings.


28 posted on 05/03/2012 5:27:03 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Eleutheria5

I wonder if we’ll ever be able to repair the dame to ourselves and to our allies, done by the Creep-In-Chief?


29 posted on 05/03/2012 5:29:17 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Of course he will. No islamic turd like Obama ever hated a statement of forced “love” or relationship.

The Russians are saying: let us play with your toys or we destroy you because you are mean.

This is sucker language for Zero.


30 posted on 05/03/2012 5:29:27 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: carriage_hill

dame = damage. (Something burped and it wasn’t me)


31 posted on 05/03/2012 5:32:53 PM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill

OK.....thats way enough of this pretend President. We need a real american leader or we are absolute toast. Another 4 years and the damage we have seen so far will pale in comparison to what will be exponentialy more damaging in the lomger term. I already do not recognize my country, and in a few short years if he is still pretending to be the president, we are done....completely done. I pray and cry for my 5 grandchildren.


32 posted on 05/03/2012 5:42:54 PM PDT by PWK arch
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To: carriage_hill

OK.....thats way enough of this pretend President. We need a real american leader or we are absolute toast. Another 4 years and the damage we have seen so far will pale in comparison to what will be exponentialy more damaging in the lomger term. I already do not recognize my country, and in a few short years if he is still pretending to be the president, we are done....completely done. I pray and cry for my 5 grandchildren.


33 posted on 05/03/2012 5:43:04 PM PDT by PWK arch
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To: LibertyRocks

http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf


34 posted on 05/03/2012 5:54:03 PM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: carriage_hill

Here are a few links:
Russian Troops to ‘Seize’ CIA Facility in Elaborate War Game on US Soil
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2876755/posts

Here’s a cached copy of the original page - having trouble accessing the article right now:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-russian-troops-to-seize-cia-facility-in-elaborate-war-game-on-u-s-soil/

I’ll try to track down more links... Check the FR thread though that’s where I first heard of Chinese ships, but after following all the links that day I remember seeing that confirmed by numerous sources.


35 posted on 05/03/2012 6:00:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: carriage_hill; All
CRIPES! I'm sorry I mis-read the original article.

Russia and China are the ones doing drills with the Chinese Navy involving all those ships. When I went to find the links today I didn't scan and scroll far enough to see it.

Here is an excerpt that highlights what I misunderstood:

from:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-russian-troops-to-seize-cia-facility-in-elaborate-war-game-on-u-s-soil/
Worth noting is Russia earlier this week launched military exercises in collaboration with the Chinese navy. Chinese state broadcaster CCTV said the six days of drills, which began Sunday, feature simulated anti-aircraft, anti-submarine and search-and-rescue operations, including electronic countermeasures and other sensitive technologies.

Retired major general Yin Zhuo said it shows a high degree of trust between the sides.

“It’s an excellent exchange for China to be able to drill jointly in such sensitive areas,” Yin told CCTV.

China’s Defense Ministry said China was sending two submarines and 16 ships to take part, including destroyers, escort vessels and hospital ships. The deputy chiefs of the countries’ navies oversaw the start of drills in the northeastern Chinese port of Qingdao, the home of China’s northern fleet.



Please accept my apologies...
36 posted on 05/03/2012 6:07:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: carriage_hill

Send in the Occupiers as shields. They trained to protest US use of force. Maybe they could convince their like minded brethren. Kind of like double agent useful idiots.


37 posted on 05/03/2012 6:12:21 PM PDT by Kudsman
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To: Jonty30

SURE??

Why not when you have a wooos for a U.S. Pres? ha.

Hey, that’s not a golf towel Obama is waving...It’s a white flag!


38 posted on 05/03/2012 6:30:40 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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39 posted on 05/03/2012 6:36:22 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: carriage_hill

Wonder how well maintained those ABM installations ringing Moscow are?


40 posted on 05/03/2012 6:36:53 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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