Posted on 05/03/2012 8:47:24 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all." -- President Ronald Reagan
There has been a lot of discussion on this forum on whether or not a "conservative" can or should support Mitt Romney in the general election.
I am 60 years old, and for all of my adult life, since I joined the U.S. Navy at age 17, I have fought the EVIL ideology that is socialism/marxism/communism/statism, call it what you will. And it IS EVIL. It destroys the human spirit. It reduces every individual to a state of hopeless dependence on an all powerful state, run for the benefit of a few favored, powerful, connected people.
We all KNOW that B. HUSSEIN O. is a communist, and truth be told, an islamist supporter. So, he MUST be defeated and destroyed, along with his ideology.
However, myth obamney is also a "progressive" (read COMMUNIST), BY HIS OWN WORDS.
His actual record is indistinguishable from B. HUSSEIN O.
"If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures." - Alexander Hamilton
Therefore, I will NOT vote for a socialist/marxist/communist/statist, REGARDLESS of party label. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR myth obamney in November. I will vote for the Constitution Party candidate, Virgil Goode, or I will write in my DOG over EITHER major party candidate, because they are EXACTLY the same.
Before you start to flame me, ask yourself this: IF myth somehow is elected, do you REALLY expect him to roll back ANYTHING that B. HUSSEIN O. forced on us? ObamaCare??? That is RomneyCare. EPA rules and regulations? Labor relations rules and regulations that empower unions? Energy policy? IS THERE ANYTHING that the rooster-sucking, goat-humping statist socialist/communist Myth Obamney will eliminate? I would suggest that his whole f**king record says not only "no" but "HELL NO!" There is NOTHING he would change.
So, for all the myth obamney lurkers, go back to your f**king candidate and tell him I said he can take his "God in waiting" cult beliefs, his f**king "magic underwear" and his f**king communism and GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!
“Where liberty dwells, there is my country." –Benjamin Franklin
“If I stay home, it will be the first time I ever did that, since I started voting in 1976.”
And this time, after Obama gets re-elected and drives the final nail into America’s coffin, you can brag to your great-grandchildren what a genius you were.
“I’m writing in Sarah Palin.”
Yeah, that’ll send a message. Not.
Bingo.
What the ABOs fail to understand is that if they want their red-clad statist to defeat the blue-clad statist, they need us a heck of a lot more than we need them.
“Sorry to sound so harsh but come on guys. We can’t afford to give Obama four more years to destroy this country. What if Obama wins AND gets the congress back?”
Kudos....even Obama light is better than what we have. God help us.
Hopefully, the GOP will dissolve as a party after 2012. Let the RINOs go home to the RATs and let the Conservatives take over.
Yes to that!!!
This is the vicious cycle we are on as a party. Reagan’s quote at the top of this thread is about the GOP, not the democrats. He worked within the party to change it.
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Exactly
It was against George Romney and his moderate buddies who had betrayed Barry Goldwater and the Conservatives in 1964
Wee Willie Mitty was there and watched and learned from Daddy...
Deja Vu
“We don’t intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” — President Ronald Reagan
Vote Against Both!
(cue Twisted Sister’s “We’re Not Gonna Take It!”)
I do not need a bible to tell me right from wrong.
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Then you do not truly know right from wrong.
The battle that the author is talking about is the battle for the nomination - and that is pretty much over. During the primaries you get to fight for your perfect candidate.
Now is the time for supporting the winner of the primaries, and focusing attention on getting a better candidate on the Republican ballot in future elections.
Now is also the time for focusing on races in the House and Senate.
Now is also the time for starting to communicate to Romney that he's better tow the f'ing line.
Now is *NOT*, however, the time to stomp one's feet on the ground, and take one's ball and go home.
We're engaged in a battle in which there will never be a perfect outcome, and in which there will never be total victory.
William Shakespeare said it best:
"Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made And crowns for convoy put into his purse:..."
Can't do it. I won't be voting for Romney. I can't vote for a pro-abort, gun-banning, big government liberal.
/johnny
You can’t blame me for Obama. I didn’t vote for him the first time, I didn’t vote for his twin in the primary and I won’t be voting for EITHER of them (thus not helping or hurting either one) in the general.
If the price of maintaining this website is the surrender of every core value we hold dear, then it's time to turn out the lights.
Personally, I think Jim Rob could bounce every single Mittbot out of here, and FR would go on as before.
The only core principles Mitt has, are those that concern Mitt. The man is simply a sell-out to his countrymen. It just so happens that his transgressions against the greater good, align precisely with the leftist agenda. He would have sold out to the right, if the political conditions had been reversed.
So that is what it’s come down to?
Supporting the flip flopper because he might flip to your side on an issue and then HOPE he stays there....
No thanks.
You may well be correct about this. But, I'd suggest that the political conditions for him have reversed. He's no longer seeking to govern the most liberal state in the country, and is seeking to govern a country with a center-right majority. That fact, which puts him in opposition to Obama and needing conservative (or at least not liberal) support to survive in office, means that circumstances will be pushing him farther to the right.
If that's how circumstances force him to run and govern, I'll take that in a heartbeat over the guy we know is 1) committed to true leftist values, and 2) dependent upon support from the left of rhis political survival.
To paraphrase, Mitt Romney may be a b*stard, but he's at least our b*stard now.
And that was the only point I wished to bring out. Everybody agrees that this November is shaping up to bring Americans an abysmal choice for president (no third party has any hope of being anything but a spoiler). In that abyss, I’d still rather get a politician who “might” yield to a conservative-leaning majority for the sake of his own pride or whatever, than one who is single mindedly bent on evil. If anything is desperate here, it’s the situation of the entirety of America. America right now needs to worry about just surviving, not being great.
Don’t forget with Romney there is that ever so important Obama THIRD term to worry about as well.
That is a very good analogy.
Others have used similar imagery to remark that the Jews and other good Germans missed their opportunity to stand up against Hitler and the Nazis when they had a chance. Instead, they were so civilized, and acclimated to a well-ordered society, that they simply could not believe that real tyranny was upon them. It didn't become real to them, until the SS began hauling people out of their homes, never to be seen again.
Right up until that very moment, those among them who were sounding the alarm, were ridiculed and shouted down. It's not unlike what the Mittbots and other enablers are doing on this forum.
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