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4 Years Later, Race Is Still Issue for Some Voters (It's not called enemedia for nothing!)
The New York Times ^ | May 3, 2012 | Sabrina Tavernise

Posted on 05/03/2012 9:12:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

STEUBENVILLE, Ohio — This is the land of die-hard Democrats — mill workers, coal miners and union members. They have voted party line for generations, forming a reliable constituency for just about any Democrat who decides to run for office.

But when it comes to President Obama, a small part of this constituency balks.

“Certain precincts in this county are not going to vote for Obama,” said John Corrigan, clerk of courts for Jefferson County, who was drinking coffee in a furniture shop downtown one morning last week with a small group of friends, retired judges and civil servants. “I don’t want to say it, but we all know why.”

A retired state employee, Jason Foreman, interjected, “I’ll say it: it’s because he’s black.”

For nearly three and a half years, a black family has occupied the White House, and much of the time what has been most remarkable about that fact is how unremarkable it has become to the country. While Mr. Obama will always be known to the history books as the country’s first black president, his mixed-race heritage has only rarely surfaced in visible and explicit ways amid the tumult of a deep recession, two wars and shifting political currents....

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This, "saving" General Motors and Osama are what they're going to run on? That's all they've got?
1 posted on 05/03/2012 9:12:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Enemedia. I like that. Is that a contraction of the enemy media, enema media or both?


2 posted on 05/03/2012 9:16:54 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's all they've got.

Oh, and you're racist if you don't vote for him.

This is why I predict with 100% certainty that the October Surprise (August, actually) will be that we will be in a shooting war with Iran.

3 posted on 05/03/2012 9:19:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That's all they've got.

Oh, and you're racist if you don't vote for him.

This is why I predict with 100% certainty that the October Surprise (August, actually) will be that we will be in a shooting war with Iran.

4 posted on 05/03/2012 9:19:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even multi generational brain dead dim voters can see when their life, and future progeny are in dire peril.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 9:19:37 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
4 Years Later, Race Is Still Issue for Some Voters

I'm not going to click thru to the NYT, but from the tone of the excerpt I'm guessing that the clueless author of the article never considered that for more than 80% of black voters, the President's race is what matters as far as casting their vote.

Curious blindness, isn't it? (no, actually it's not - this is the NYT we're talking about after all)

6 posted on 05/03/2012 9:20:45 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lynch Mob Media is closer to the mark these days.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 9:20:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They are punching the "racist" button as hard as they can because that's all they got.

The narrative was, and now is, "If you don't vote for Obama you're racist." That's the bottom line. It wouldn't matter if "The Won" burned an American flag on the White House lawn and took a special trip to the National Archives to pee on the Constitution -- only racists will refuse to vote for Obama.

They can't point to his successes because there are none he can really claim. GM is by no means out of danger and offing Bin Laden was more in spite of him that because of him.

There may indeed be people who vote against him solely because he is Black, but that is probably the smallest category on the list and you have to dig deep to find them -- as this shill was obviously willing to do.

8 posted on 05/03/2012 9:22:24 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: grumpygresh
Go ahead and put em together.

Enemamedia. Almost sounds Latin.

It certainly is highly descriptive, of what they spew, and whom they are!

9 posted on 05/03/2012 9:22:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: grumpygresh

Hey Sabrina, ya idiot, he’s not black, he just looks black. His momma was white as the driven snow! Notice I didn’t say she was ‘pure’ as the driven snow. Anyway, if it was to his advantage politically he would say he was white! Stop with the divisive BS, it is not going to fly this time around!


10 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:44 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing said about whether these suddenly black-hating districts of white rednecks voted Obama in 2008, of course.

If they hate Obama it’s because they hate the color of his politics, which was a cipher in 2008 but not now.


11 posted on 05/03/2012 9:25:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Away with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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To: Lazamataz

Or race war. Or civil war. Or martial law. Or some combination of all of those.


12 posted on 05/03/2012 9:28:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Or race war. Or civil war. Or martial law. Or some combination of all of those.”

You can bet the farm that, if the polls look bad for him, there will be some sort of Reichstag fire. These people will not go out quietly. Be prepared for anything!


13 posted on 05/03/2012 9:33:50 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Lazamataz

Israel didn’t mobilize to have a weinie roast at the park, did they?....


14 posted on 05/03/2012 9:36:57 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course it’s still an issue. The vast majority of black voters are going to vote for the marxist messiah simply because he’s “one of them”.

If you want to see the racism in the coming election, look no further than that.


15 posted on 05/03/2012 9:40:40 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would vote for Clarence Thomas, but never Zer0. Does that make me racist?


16 posted on 05/03/2012 9:41:15 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: One Name
Israel didn’t mobilize to have a weinie roast at the park, did they?....

I dunno man, have you had a Hebrew National hotdog lately? Those are wieners worth fighting for.
17 posted on 05/03/2012 9:43:36 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Ronin
They are punching the "racist" button as hard as they can because that's all they got.

I believe the race card is all played out with most Americans. They are going to have to steal this election.

18 posted on 05/03/2012 9:46:51 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I have had them and some other all kosher meat wieners; they are excellent although I might actually fight to eat pork sausage.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 9:47:13 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s all about the melanometrics..


20 posted on 05/03/2012 9:50:04 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Lazamataz

It’s all about the melanometrics..


21 posted on 05/03/2012 9:50:04 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: One Name

Sausage, maybe. Bacon most definitely.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 9:50:23 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The guy has f’d up everything he has touched, impoverished us all, humbled a great nation, can’t put two words without a teleprompter and sounds like a moron even when he’s reading from a script.

But I must be a racist not to want him as president.

Can we please have back the disastrous George Bush economy Obama inherited?


23 posted on 05/03/2012 9:50:23 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This is the land of die-hard Democrats — mill workers, coal miners and union members. They have voted party line for generations, forming a reliable constituency for just about any Democrat”

So sad that miners may be stupid enough to believe the Democrats union shit...


24 posted on 05/03/2012 9:52:17 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I was thinking bratwurst more than breakfast sausage, but as for bacon, thickly cut and well-smoked with hickory and a touch of apple wood I suspect we are in complete agreement.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 9:56:25 PM PDT by One Name (Go to the enemy's home court and smoke his ass.)
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To: Lazamataz
>"we will be in a shooting war with Iran. "

Or Israel. ???

26 posted on 05/03/2012 9:57:01 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article is a strawman- a “small minority” across the spectrum, save for blacks, won’t vote for the guy on the basis of race, either.

This is a scared sh* tless NYT resurrecting a dead horse to bank against their boy’s failure.


27 posted on 05/03/2012 9:58:17 PM PDT by 4buttons
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To: muir_redwoods

I seem to remember 2002-2006 being pretty good years economically. Most everyone had decent jobs, money to spend, businesses were humming, etc. Am I wrong?


28 posted on 05/03/2012 9:59:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Those years were the first time in my life I had seen help wanted signs on full sized billboards.

You don't see any HW signs of any kind hardly anymore.

29 posted on 05/03/2012 10:04:59 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg; One Name

Now you have done it!

How will I wait for breakfast and perfect crispy BACON??


30 posted on 05/03/2012 10:32:09 PM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And why shouldn’t it be when 98% of one race votes for its own kind, the president and attorney general play racial/racist politics. And their supporters make race the issue in everything?

NYT . such hypocritical dumbasses


31 posted on 05/03/2012 10:38:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Fat, drunk and stupid = Dumb, dependent, and Democrat)
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To: oldbrowser

OK. Racism AND voter fraud. They have two cards to play.


32 posted on 05/03/2012 10:44:21 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are right. I won’t. Vote for him because of his color...Red!


33 posted on 05/03/2012 11:07:16 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Forget that his 4 years have been an Epic Fail, with the worst economy since the Great Depression. If you dont vote for him, its because your rascist.


34 posted on 05/03/2012 11:15:59 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah that’s it: I’m against him because he’s black.

You can tell I judge everyone by skin color because I’m white.


35 posted on 05/03/2012 11:31:05 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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“Certain precincts in this county are not going to vote for Obama,”...“I don’t want to say it, but we all know why.” ..A retired state employee, Jason Foreman, interjected, “I’ll say it: it’s because he’s black.”

When liberals say this, they are lying and THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING. A simple thought experiment is sufficient to establish this. Suppose we had a credible black candidate, who hated abortion and homosexuality, upheld the 2nd amendment, abhorred communism, supported realistic measures to get out of debt, wanted to secure the border, etc.... how would all these "racists" vote. ALL LIBERALS know that 100% of the Tea Party patriots would vote FOR such a black man.

Our problem with Obama is that he is IN THE WRONG, on every issue of substance. The accusation of "racism" against us, for opposing him, is NEVER made in good faith, it is ALWAYS a conscious intentional slander, made because the liberals do not have, and know they do not have, any actual substantive arguments.

I have lost all patience with liberals. The last 3 years have shown beyond all doubt, that liberalism is the philosophy of those who are INTENTIONALLY LYING for illegitimate gain, period, end of story. Liberalism is NOT... NOT EVER.... an honest mistake by a good hearted person. It CAN"T be. By now, they CAN'T NOT KNOW that they are wrong. They are not stupid, they are not misguided, they are DEVILS in human form.

36 posted on 05/04/2012 12:12:15 AM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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To: Lazamataz
This is why I predict with 100% certainty that.... we will be in a shooting war with Iran.

Look on the bright side. We only lose if Obozo keeps his office.

Oh, wait -- Romney's still running, isn't he?

8(


37 posted on 05/04/2012 12:17:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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ALL LIBERALS know that 100% of the Tea Party patriots would vote FOR such a black man.

And how about this for a newsflash for Steubenville, Ohio, DimRats and The New York Times: So would the hardhat voters they're complaining about.

Fifty cents says these are the same voters the NYT and other MediaRats called "hardhats" (note the mild put-down) when they voted for George C. Wallace in 1968, and "Reagan Democrats" when they voted for Ronnie Reagan 12 years later.

The problem the 'Rats have with these guys is that they're Americans first, and they never stopped being Americans, no matter how many times they were harangued by Left agitators and "authority figures" and "opinionmakers" .... because they know that America has always been more right, and more centered, than any UMC leftist who ever dunked a crumpet or slurped white wine.

38 posted on 05/04/2012 3:12:26 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Couldn’t possibly be that coal miners are becoming aware of his war on their livelihood?


39 posted on 05/04/2012 3:36:06 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I live in Steubenville. Jefferson County went Republcan in 2008 for the first time in decades. We are a very heavy Democrat county, full of pro-union people who think all our problems will be solved by electing Dems. We are also the county seet and Ohio gets better welfare benefits than West Virginia so we have tons of welfare people here. In fact, I can’t even go grocery shopping on the first of the month. What the gentlemen are saying is quite true. However, it was racist Dems who did not vote for obama. Republicans were voting against socialism.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 3:45:07 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Ronin

“They are punching the “racist” button as hard as they can because that’s all they got.”

That in and of itself is risky; it drives away non-racist whites as they realize the descendants of the war contraband will never be placated.


41 posted on 05/04/2012 4:50:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: smalltownslick

“Couldn’t possibly be that coal miners are becoming aware of his war on their livelihood?”

That particular issue cost Gore WV & KY (and therefore the presidency); did those people hate white people at the time, or simply vote in their best interests?


42 posted on 05/04/2012 4:52:21 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: oldbrowser

“I believe the race card is all played out with most Americans. They are going to have to steal this election.”

I agree with you, and I hope it isn’t wishful thinking. Even blacks are worse off than 4 years ago; Obama has failed, and even worse in the voters’ eyes, he thinks he succeeded.


43 posted on 05/04/2012 4:54:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: grumpygresh

Enemedia = Enemy + Media

I created that name for them while they were cheering every American military death in Iraq.


44 posted on 05/04/2012 4:54:25 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It's got nothing to do with his race and Barry being Black.
It's about Barry being RED, as in being a Marxist-Communist.

Heck, I don't even care that he's gay [(cough) 'allegedly'].

45 posted on 05/04/2012 6:02:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Race IS the only issue for some voters. They’re generally black, and have been conned into thinking this guy has anything at all in common with them.


46 posted on 05/04/2012 6:32:53 AM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: Zeppo

This is the untold story in the press. The black vote overwhelmingly went to Obama as it moved from any traditional split netween democtrat and republican and the press does not run stories saying this is because he is black and point out the disconnect.


47 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:44 AM PDT by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah,Yeah,everyone is racist according to the New York Slime...Only one question here..If we are racist how did the moron get elected.

I have to say here though I did not vote for the turkey,I did as much homework on the moron as I could find..Checked his family roots and found ever person around him was communist but a few,that few were Muslim..He clung to both devil worshiper religion..Then found out he loved boys or men which ever ...His Nanny was queer so I would guess that is where he turned into what he is today..

As for the NYS they can say what they want to say it does not make it so..Everything from that rag should be blocked from here if it was then not to many people could read it..

48 posted on 05/04/2012 7:54:59 AM PDT by PLD (It is time the freeloaders leave the white house and go back to the hell hole where they came from..)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This president has taken the office down to him basically being President Lynch Mob (D) Illinois.


49 posted on 05/04/2012 7:56:21 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I know you are wrong- have several in my family
that would vote for O’bummer no matter what-

my sister has 2 grown kids without a job- no
prospects to get employment- it is all because of Evil
racist/war on women / republicans-

completely brain dead- no help to turn her
I watch the military channel- these people are like
vervent nazi’s- berlin in flames, 10’s of millions dead,
a lot of them still said “sig heil!”- same for these O bots


50 posted on 05/04/2012 8:58:52 AM PDT by mj1234
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