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Non-Farm Payrolls Rise Less Than Exepcted, Up 115,000; Unemployment Rate at 8.1%
CNBC ^ | 05/05/12 | Unattributed

Posted on 05/04/2012 5:33:55 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economy; obamanomics; payrolls; recovery; unemployment; unexpected
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To: TonyInOhio

“...That would be the unemployment rate if US labor force the same size as when Obama took office”.

Except that the US population is growing, and the labor force should be proportionally larger. 11% would itself be a massaging of the numbers.


21 posted on 05/04/2012 5:50:00 AM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: TonyInOhio


People Not In Labor Force Soar By 522,000, Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1981
22 posted on 05/04/2012 5:50:03 AM PDT by khelus
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To: woweeitsme

“how in the world can the UE numbers be going down?”


The power of encumbancy. People are afraid of losing their jobs or worse so they lie.....or maybe I just watch too much television like in the new TV show “Scandal” where the woman knocked up the the President just got kidnapped before her press conference. Would Obummer hurt someone? In a Chicago minute! The Clinton’s got rid of their enemies and no one seems to care.


23 posted on 05/04/2012 5:50:34 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Flightdeck

Yep


24 posted on 05/04/2012 5:50:52 AM PDT by khelus
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To: Flightdeck

25 posted on 05/04/2012 5:52:32 AM PDT by khelus
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To: b4its2late

As I’ve said over a year ago, I wish I could have laid money on the employment rate. I’d bet my everything I own that the rate will be in the 7s by October.


26 posted on 05/04/2012 5:53:35 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: TonyInOhio

Next week’s headline:

“Non-farm payrolls *drop* 25,000; unemployment rate now 7.9%”


27 posted on 05/04/2012 5:53:55 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: woweeitsme

115,000 working people probably die each month. I don’t know the figures but a whole lot do die each month.


28 posted on 05/04/2012 5:55:04 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: TonyInOhio

Needs more stimulus!!!!


29 posted on 05/04/2012 5:55:29 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: TonyInOhio

Wait for it to be revised quietly in a week or two.

The real unemployment rate is around 10.9% when calculated the same way it was until 2009 and if using U-6, including all those unemployed collecting unemployment checks, the rate is about 16.5%. The economy sucks and 0bama won’t be able to campaign on his poor economic record for the election. He will LIE about it though.


30 posted on 05/04/2012 5:55:29 AM PDT by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: PubliusMM

“The 0bamunists will continue to cook the books on unemployment numbers right up to the election...”

I think they are over-estimating the impact of their false unemployment figures; the unemployed (and all of their associates) know better, and the Kenyan Pirate has no solution to deal with the despair of many people that ARE working. A lot of people have been dealing with a lot of crap at their jobs (increased workloads due to layoffs, falling salaries in terms of puchasing power), and they don’t have many ways to express their frustration/anger; unfortunately for Obama, the ballot box is the last one. It happened in 2009 in 3 states he carried (MA, NJ, VA), it happened in even more states he carried in the 2010 mid-terms, and now 2 years later (with things noticeably worse) it should happen on an even larger scale.

I understand why so much of Obama’s posturing in 2011 was geared more towards heading off a Dem primary challenge than attacking Republicans; he ended a lot of Dem’s careers in his first 2 years, and those still standing weren’t willing to take a dive for him.


31 posted on 05/04/2012 5:55:57 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: blitz128

Soon, they will be counting those receiving unemployment benefits as being employed, because, as Pelosi said last year, they ARE adding to the economy by receiving those benefits.

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Eric Holder (FNS) said on Wednesday that the BLS had 15 straight weeks of ‘revised up’ figures. He said that proved they were manipulating the weekly figures to make good headlines, then quietly, ‘revising’ the numbers a few days after.


32 posted on 05/04/2012 5:57:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TonyInOhio

The scary part is even after all the manipulation Obama is doing to the numbers, 115,000 and 8.1% is the best they can do


33 posted on 05/04/2012 5:57:24 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: blitz128

Because the number shows the net jobs gain. For example, if 2 million jobs were lost and 2.1 million were created, the number would be 100K.


34 posted on 05/04/2012 5:57:51 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: TonyInOhio
We need to start a pool on what the official unemployment rate will be before election day. What is Obama’s calculus on the rate he needs that will be believed by the brain dead masses and get him reelected? Somewhere around 7.5%?
35 posted on 05/04/2012 5:58:17 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Stosh

It won’t be next week, the job numbers are released the first Friday of each month.


36 posted on 05/04/2012 5:59:44 AM PDT by Skylab
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To: KevinDavis; SueRae
That and the directly related "participation rate" are the most important and only real continuing statistics:

"People Not In Labor Force Soar By 522,000, Labor Force Participation Rate Lowest Since 1981"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/people-not-labor-force-soar-522000-labor-force-participation-rate-lowest-1981

The actual unemployment number is statistical fakery and the weekly jobs number is statistical noise (the error per BIS is roughly +/- 100,000).

This graph also shows that the official definition of a recession is also an arbitrary one unconnected to reality. See how "the recession ended" there in late 2009? That single dip was enough for them to make that decision, and it's just a blip on one of the most noiseless economic graphs in existence.

37 posted on 05/04/2012 6:01:37 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: TonyInOhio

The U3 is an idiot’s statistic that is totally worthless.

There is no decent reason for excluding from a picture of unemployment those who have stopped looking for a job.

It makes far more sense to give the total number and then a number of job-able who are receiving welfare benefits. Let people draw their own conclusions.

In fact, and I could be wrong, I think a job-seeker can be dropped from the rolls for missing just a single month of job search reporting to the UE office.


38 posted on 05/04/2012 6:03:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: apillar

169000


39 posted on 05/04/2012 6:03:56 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: TonyInOhio

522,000 out of the workforce number during April [because they exhausted benefits], thus no longer counted, per Stuart Varney.

That is why the percent ‘dropped’ to 8.1%.


40 posted on 05/04/2012 6:04:05 AM PDT by TomGuy
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