Skip to comments.Note to Congress: The fiscal cliff cometh
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:16:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Economists are rightly starting to warn that the United States faces a worrisome fiscal cliff at years end. The blunt spending cuts mandated by the 2011 compromise on the debt ceiling and the failure of the supercommittee that followed along with across-the-board tax increases would derail the U.S. recovery and undermine the well-being of the global economy. We should be avoiding the edge of this cliff and politicians should not believe that they have until the end of this year to act.
In the next few months, possibly within weeks, markets here and abroad will be looking for signals that our politicians understand the severity of the situation and are able and willing to act appropriately. If clear signals are not forthcoming, markets could react early to the looming trouble, compounding the uncertainties that weigh on the U.S. economy.
It is well known that both Democrats and Republicans in Congress have failed in the past few years to address our nations difficult fiscal issues. The most visible example is the repeated absence of a comprehensive annual budget. Less obvious but equally important is the large and meaningful collection of budgetary reforms that have been delayed, obfuscated and derailed. In the process, all sorts of spending cuts and tax increases got kicked further down the road. Now, a meaningful and consequential set is coming together in a rather disorderly fashion.
The sequestration mandated by the Budget Control Act of 2011 and the reversal of the Bush-era and payroll tax cuts would essentially mean withdrawing from the economy some 4 percent of the national income in one blunt go and this doesnt factor in possible knock-on effects. The importance of this issue cannot be overstated.
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This article is a great read. However, it does not take a rocket scientist to understand that the collapse is coming.
Congress has failed to act on many occasions. It will continue to fail to act. So, the only outcome left is a collapse...and not even a controlled collapse.
Stock up on everything.
Not sure I want to give credence to a quitter.
Folks, they’ll keep the balls in the air and the facade upright as long as possible,
but they’re coming down eventually.
“Stock up on everything.”
We’ve been doing that for 2+yrs.
I’m sure Mohammad is looking out for US interests here./s/
Note to Mohammad: Your Muslim pal, Obama, is the one you need to talk to about running up a $5 trillion debt in just three years and one session of Democrat control over both houses of the Congress.
—However, it does not take a rocket scientist to understand that the collapse is coming.—
I agree. These articles, to me, are like reading articles that demonstrate that the sun sets in the west. What makes them compelling, however, is the knowledge that so many people think it sets in the east, or that the moon is really the sun on 10% power.
And in that response is a hint at how I am finally coming around and no longer looking at the soon coming collapse as “ever near future” to “the day really will come”, is changing my lifestyle drastically.
Bullets, silver, tools, buildings, food, garden, etc. are what it is ALL about now. I feel like the Bruce Willis Character in The 12 Monkeys going back for the last time to the time that culminates in the airport scene. IOW, we’re almost there. And by almost, I mean today or tomorrow, or next week are ALL a very real possibility.
I “see” this meltdown future almost that clearly.
The flip side is that it can be quite depressing, thinking about it. Even those of us who are “totally” prepared, will be living in a very bad world. This is especially true if one is a believer in bible prophesy and NOT a pre-tribulationist (I am a believer but not a pre-tribulationist, though I used to be).
I’ve avoided going “full in” regarding prepper activities. My reasoning was simple: Where your treasure is, there shall your heart be also. That is, if all of your future preparation is for the apocalypse, in a very real way, you WANT the apocalypse to happen. I did not want to get to that point.
I’ll fight the urge now, but our future is very clear to anyone really paying attention. I especially pray for those who live in the cities and suburbs. It will get very ugly. I say this with three daughters living in condos in downtown Seattle. :-(
—but theyre coming down eventually.—
My “gut” is telling me “eventually” is just about here.
You are correct.
RE: Im sure Mohammad is looking out for US interests here./s/
I’m sure you know that this guy was the manager of Harvard’s endownment fund which ballooned to over $33 billion not too long ago.
And well, what to say, this Muslim handles part of MY RETIREMENT money.... The PIMCO Total Return Fund.
I am assuming there are many people like us. Ones that are not “suvivilist” but “realist”. Smart decision.
Think about the contradiction of these two paraphrased statements from Sen. Jim DeMint, R Sc.: 1.) I want to stay in the US Senate; and 2.) I will leave the US Senate in two years.
Could it be that DeMint is preparing to be a Presidential Primary Candidate in 2016?
We need to draft DeMint in 2012 and avoid the sorry Romney years if Romney wins!
IMHO, Romney will loose by a hair to Obama which will require that Obama be immediately IMPEACHED in order to save our Republic.
Obama or Obamalite, the US Federal Government will not have its, and therefore our, financial house in order by 2016.
Thus, political resolution of the main problem: OVERSPENDING BY THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, may not be achievable in 2016.
Hence, it is IMPERATIVE that we have an OPEN Convention in Tampa so that Sen. Jim DeMint can be drafted, albeit kicking and screaming, to be the Republican Party Nominee for the Office of the President of the United States of America.
I propose that voting for Ron Paul as a Primary wedge Candidate against Romney should lead to an Open Convention in Tampa.
Since Ron Paul cannot win the Nomination, he would just serve as our last best wedge hope of defeating Romney AND the GOP-E in an Open Convention.
Primary Candidate Ron Paul is the last non-Romney Candidate left standing between the GOP-Es Romney, (= probable loss to Obama in November), and an Open Convention of a Republican that can soundly defeat Obama.
A win over Obama is not enough, Obama MUST lose in a LANDSLIDE!!!!!!
NONE of the Primary Candidates have shown that they have that potential.
It is time for an Open Convention to choose the best Presidential Candidate.
It is time for us Conservatives to turn out in massive numbers in the remaining primaries, especially in the big electoral delegate states such as Texas, and vote for ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY!
Ron Paul needs only to win one more State Primary to qualify as a Nominee Candidate, and therefore is our best chance for Open Convention delegates to select a GREAT Nominee, such as Senator Jim DeMint.
I think Senator Jim DeMint would be our best choice, but first we must work to have an Open Convention in Tampa.
What say all of you?
We went "All In" back in 2008 in a similar fashion as you have... and believe me FRiend, there is no way on God's green earth that we "want" it to happen!
How one can look into their Grand children's eyes and NOT prepare for what is coming down the road?
Good Luck with all your preps... they will not in vain.
—We went “All In” back in 2008 in a similar fashion as you have... and believe me FRiend, there is no way on God’s green earth that we “want” it to happen!—
1. I’m not saying it will always be that way. It is just a risk.
2. The “wanting it to happen” can be subconscious.
We need to run full speed over the fiscal cliff, and over the political cliff. Salvation is in the fall, just before there is nothing left to save. At least, that seems to be the reasoning these days. More likely, instead of a phoenix rising up from the ashes, the pieces that are left will be sifted through by curious spectators for decades to come.
One can disagree if you wish about the motive of this muslim writer. But one has to think for themselves, as well.
If this divided congress is unable or unwilling to address the spending crisis that our nation faces. What other outcome is there?
More on the background of the author of this article:
Born New York City, August 19, 1958 (age 53)
Residence Newport Beach, California
Alma mater Oxford University, Cambridge University
Occupation CEO of PIMCO
If we get the death of the "global economy" out of this mess, we will have better chances at recovery afterwards.
Mr. Harvard Smartypants has failed to assess the political situation that is blocking the reform of government and it’s spending. His message should have been to his comrade in the White Hut and the Senate, not to Congress.
He’s handling some of our Harvard retirement money, too.
Realism will always prevail, tmm.
its always politically correct to dump on the pubs isns't it? time.....
me?....I can prep all I want but the fact is my youngest dtr and her husband live near downtown Portland Ore in an apt...they are totally not "into" it and in lala land IMO....and my son and dil live in a safer area north of Seattle but not that far north....they don't have two sticks to rub together...they have two children...
and alot of my dearest relatives live back east.....
so what good does it do to go off the deep end preparing?....so we can live and everyone that we love starves or is attacked?
okay..I've got preps....garden,alcohol,etc etc....
but I am hoping and praying and begging that we can pull out of this high dive...because if we don't most of who I love will have no future, maybe not even a present..
I can buy extra rice and I can make my own wine....I can prepare for the zombies but how do I prepare for people who are more interested in getting the perfect conservative rather than getting a winning one?
How sure are you that Romney will win? We need an Open Convention to choose a winning Republican Nominee.
As I get older, I seem to be able to apply to my attitude toward family what Jesus said about it (that the body of believers is your family, not your blood relatives). It means I would be sad for them, but survival of those that make it here - and my fellow Christians here - would be a top priority.
Also, only about 10% of the reason we bought this place in 2008 was to prep for SHTF. It’s now about 80% though...
Hearing about the elections in Europe seals the deal. The only way out of this is austerity, but the people will not stand for it. So they voted out the austerity candidates and voted in the “tax the rich” candidates.
This is REALLY gonna leave a mark, and SOON.