Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
I am well aware of that tendency in both parties.
As I have said before, I do not trust Romney. But I still may end up voting for him. Between now and November, I want to see if he continues to campaign as a conservative or if he reverses course. I will be looking especially at three issues and one decision: abortion; same-sex marriage; Obamacare; and VP choice.
During the primary campaign, Romney has said, more than once, that he is opposed to Roe v. Wade and that he would appoint SC justices like Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas. Romney has said, more than once, that he is opposed to same-sex marriage. Romney has said, more than once, that he is opposed to Obamacare. What remains to be seen is if he will continue to hold these positions during the general election campaign. Likewise with the VP choice. And even if he does continue to run as a conservative, we still don't know if he will govern as one.
But I do know that there is a heckuva better chance that Romney will govern more conservatively as President of the United States, with a relatively conservative Congress, than he did as Governor of the Communistwealth of Massachusetts, with an 85% hard-lib legislature. And it is sbsolutely certain that he will govern more conservatively than Chairman Obamao.
My "line in the sand" on voting for President, VP, Governor, Senator, or Representative has always been on the issue of abortion. I will not vote for anyone who is avowedly pro-abort (e.g., Giuliani). So if Romney were now to come out in favor of abortion, or pick a VP who is pro-abort, then I would be faced with a crisis of conscience. I cannot stomach the thought of Obama getting re-elected, but at the same time I cannot pull the lever for a pro-abort ticket.
But for right now at least, Romney is running as opposed to abortion (and same-sex marriage and Obamacare). If he continues to do so into November, then I will vote for him.
I wish there was a candidate I could have full confidence in, who also has a realistic chance of beating Obama, but there isn't. Right now the best option to me seems to be: elect Romney; elect as many conservatives as possible to the Congress; try to make Romney govern as conservatively as we can; and hope for the best. Obama is not an option.
Believe me, I know all about the dangers of progressivism and of this administration in particular. I don’t know if I can express how sick I am that I can’t vote to get that pencil-necked, flap-eared dictator out,
But for me, the big picture you mentioned is God above country, above everything else. Lord knows I’m far from a perfect Christian. But I’ve been praying about this, and I have a strong conviction that I am not supposed to pull the lever for Romney. Picking him to lead this country would be sharing in his sins. So what do I do? Disregard what God is telling me? I can’t.
And that is exactly the kind of bullcrap I was just talking about.
“And that is exactly the kind of bullcrap I was just talking about.”
I couldn’t agree more. Anyone who’s received guidance from God about who they should vote for is blessed, but it doesn’t make them any more of a Christian or patriot than someone who might have received a different message from their God.
The only one who’s implied such a thing is you. Why would you do that?
“The only one who’s implied such a thing is you. Why would you do that?”
I’ve never implied it, I have commented on those who have. If the shoe doesn’t fit you (and based on your prior posts, it doesn’t appear to), then don’t wear it. However, if you want to pretend you haven’t seen posters on both sides of the issue use God to bludgeon others and inflate their own egos, I have nothing further to say to you.
I have no problem with posting the truth about Romney.
Well, you actually do, because you did a neat little twist to avoid answering my question. Again, not one person on this forum who is abstaining from voting because of Mitt has even implied that they’re better Christians than others.
You did, however. Why do that?
You’re in denial and I’m not going to argue with you. Good bye.
Magic, you know what running away from the discussion means, don’t you, LOL?
Not so, no compensation needed. We all know who and what he is. Putting the needs of us all above the wants of a few is the bigger picture. If you chose not to participate that way, thats fair and I can respect that.
No victory is weakened, that's political doubletalk and is meaningless. It may make a bunch of you who cast vote knowing you will lose feel good, but what is that really worth?
“Another act of dishonesty” ... by you, who has mis-stated his record *and* his positions to create the false conclusion that he and Obama would be the same. How come you dont mention the fact that Romney vetoed 844 pieces of legislation out of the Democrat legislature ( with over 700 overridden by the liberal legislature)? He’s never been for gay marriage, and it takes very selective rewriting of history to justify claiming that. and so on.
But arguing with fanatics is pointless, so congrats, you ‘win’ ... Obama thanks you for your service in his re-election bid.
So ... are you saying that if Clinton had won with a 53% majority instead of a pathetic 43% plurality in 1992, that in 1994, the Republican Revolution in Congress would still have happened?
Political doubletalk? Really?
Or paralyzing panic? Fear is, after all, the ONLY argument presented anywhere to vote for statist Romney.
If Obama wins then Romney lost it....that's the game. Romney will determine if he wins this ...it's on his shoulders and the GOPS...win or loose.
Nope, if not for a spoiler Clinton would have likely lost. A
Republican Revolution may have been a matter of course
“are you saying that if Clinton had won with a 53% majority instead of a pathetic 43% plurality in 1992, that in 1994, the Republican Revolution in Congress would still have happened? “
Why not?
First, Clinton treated his 43% win as a mandate as if he won a majority. Second, Obama did win in 2008 with 53% of the vote ... and in 2010, the Republicans came back with a stunning victory as large as the one in 1994.
In both cases, it was the arrogance and over-reach of the Democrats, passing bills America didnt want, not their margin in the prior election, that doomed them.
The important thing here is that Obama will be unleashed in his second term to do everything he can to cement a ‘legacy’ which will disregard us, the voters, the constitution, etc. Obama’s victory will mean socialized medicine, high spending and high tax rates in USA forever.
No candidate wins or loses on their own, it takes a team effort to get the 60 million votes to win.
How does Team Obama help their guy win since they have a lousy record to run no? Attack Romney.
If Obama wins it will be thanks to the efforts of those on Team Obama who went out and attacked Romney and convinced people not to vote for Romney.
Every vote less that Romney gets is one less vote that Obama needs to win.
Stop using logic you will confuse the zombie yes men. /sarc
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