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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!

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To: painter
It is sad that even here in conservative Alabama we have so many milguetoast Republicans instead of wave-making TEA Party Conservatives. My own Congressman Mike Rogers caves on certain close/critical votes. We need to rev up activism and become more militant. RevolutionLadies
121 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American that a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day."

Yes. Absolutely.

In my opinion, our chances of winning the fight on another day are better if Romney is elected. If Obama is re-elected, there's an excellent chance that another day will come only after a long dark age.

Is it possible that a brokered Republican Convention could deny Romney the nomination and result in the nomination of Gingrich?

122 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:24 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("You can, in fact must, shout fire in a crowded theatre. It just has to be the truth. " J. Goldberg)
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To: icwhatudo
123 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:28 AM PDT by dragonblustar (PETA. President Eating Tasty Animals)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Tea Party should be all about the primaries, defeating RINOs and promoting real conservatives. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose.

A conservative-enough House, and a Republican controlled Senate would limit the damage that Romney could do.

The focus should now be getting Obama out of the White House, obtaining conservative control of House and Senate, and then start looking at upcoming races in 2013 and 2014.

NJ and VA will have their governor and legislative elections in 2013. In 2014, a third of the Senate, all the House, and thirty-six state governorships will be up for grabs. It's not over yet.

124 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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125 posted on 05/04/2012 7:27:58 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Jim Robinson

Been saying this for quite some time but I will reiterate:

As a Christian, Romney is not my first choice. But by declaring you won’t vote for Romney who may not share your religious or philosophical views, you are voting for more O’bolshevik. If that is what you want, say so.

But face up to the political reality: elections have consequences.The key is to elect as many true conservatives to Congress, so that the president can be overridden if he makes bad choices.

If O’bambi is returned to office, no more complaints; just look in the mirror for the right person to blame.The fact is that any republican president with a conservative Congress will be a vast improvement over this train-wreck poseur that is currently occupying the White House.

126 posted on 05/04/2012 7:28:59 AM PDT by Zman (Liberals: denying reality since Day One.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I love you Jim!

My tag line says it all at this point...

And, while the lesser of two evils is still evil, in the long run, strategery says to do what we can, no matter how feeble at this point, to stave off the unthinkable.

127 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:20 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Jim Robinson
To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

BTTT. I wholeheartedly applaud this post. The conservative movement in this country has merely lost one battle (GOP POTUS '12) in a much larger war for the very survival of this great Country. How each conservative chooses to react to this loss in the voting booth in November does not need to be debated here. That vote, based either on principle or strategy/pragmatism, is equally 'conservative' with the objective of winning in the future.

I believe this virtuous and humble example by you will be a huge positive for the future direction of FR and tea party movement. God bless you Jim.

128 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: evets

We much?

129 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:27 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: Erik Latranyi

I agree with your statement 100% —we must vote ABO if this nation is to get a tea party candidate next time....

130 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:40 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: kevcol

Unfortunately we must vote for Romney, because of rule by regulation and by Executive Order.

131 posted on 05/04/2012 7:29:57 AM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't remember the hand-wringing on FR over the last president who destroyed the conservative brand (TSA, No-Child-Left-Behind, Prescription Drug Benefit, Amnesty, Harriet Miers, etc.) and brought us the current statist. I admired W on a personal level but he was a disaster for conservatism. Romney I suspect, will be more consistently conservative than W. As bad as I wanted a real conservative this year, NONE of the conservatives in the race had a chance against Obama. There was no way Bachman or Cain (don't even get me started on Newt) or Perry had a chance in the general. It is far more important we oust Obama NOW. 2016 we need to have a Rubio or Ryan or Christie or someone else who will actually shrink the federal budget, not slow the rate of growth.
132 posted on 05/04/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by H.Bowman
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To: struggle
We always have the power. What’s happening to Lugar and Hatch right now?

Lugar and Hatch are legislators, who should always expect primary opposition.

Presidents are another matter.

Are you running for President in 2016?

133 posted on 05/04/2012 7:31:06 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MNlurker

“It wolud be nice to have four more years to stock up on ammo then...guns are on the to do list for Barry if he wins.”


Many knowlegable people believe without question Obama will be reelected and sometime late in his next term will gain control of the Supreme Court.

April 30, 2012
Obama: Supreme Court at stake in 2012 election
byJoel Gehrke Commentary Staff Writer

President Obama rallied supporters last night by noting that he would likely get to appoint more Supreme Court justices in his second-term, which could have very long-term significance.

“There are going to be some Supreme Court appointments probably if you look actuarially for the next president,” Obama said at a fundraiser with former President Clinton. “There’s so much at stake here.”

He used the court appointments as a way to drive home the historic significance of the 2012 presidential election: “this one matters,” he repeated.

Three current justices — Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (79 years old), Justice Steven Breyer (73 years old), and Justice Anthony Kennedy (75 years old) — are regarded as potentially near retirement.

If Obama wins reelection and those three judges retire by 2016, he’d have the opportunity to appoint a five-justice majority during his two terms (including Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan).

134 posted on 05/04/2012 7:31:18 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: central_va

The powers that be have so dumbed down our society and been successful at keeping the masses ignorant, one does not have to be Machiavellian.

People in my own local republican party (many of whom I would consider good people) are just woefully ignorant of history and the plan of the leftists. They really do not see evil for what it is.

135 posted on 05/04/2012 7:32:08 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: MNlurker; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; Jeff Head
Now if someone could post a “How to vote for Romney without throwing up on your ballot” it would be appreciated.

Don't think of it as a vote "for" Romney; think of it as a vote that cancels out one vote for Obama.

JimRob's advice about downticket voting is absolutely right.

My only concern is that, even if we were to stack the House and Senate with Tea Party conservatives, given the way Obama prefers to govern — illegally, through executive orders and administrative and executive departments which write the regulations that are ensnaring us, without recourse to Congress — it may not be enough to stop him from destroying the Republic.

This criminal conspiracy MUST be removed from the Oval Office. This is the most corrupt executive I have ever seen in my life, and perhaps in all American history. I worry the Republic cannot survive four more years of it.

My two-cents' worth, FWIW.

136 posted on 05/04/2012 7:32:55 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: cuban leaf
"If we take the full congress he’ll have a hard time doing anything. The only reason he gets away with what he does is that the congress does not use their constitutional authority to slap him back into reality. With the R’s controlling it, they would, assuming the R’s have grown a pair since the Trent Lott days."

Good thought, but two points. First, the GOPe is unlikely to grow a pair and will sound a lot tougher than they will be, and second and most importantly: Obama is moving heaven and earth to marginalize Congress. He has established some sources of funds no longer subject to Congress (like the funding for the Consumer Financial Protection Agency), money paid back from bailouts, and the Fed purchases of debt; and he is ruling by regulation and decree and a super-majority in Congress would be required to even try and stop him. An Obama win in 2012 will end our present form of government de facto if not de jure. Look to Venezuela on how this can play out.

137 posted on 05/04/2012 7:33:04 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Jim Robinson
Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

As always, well said my friend. I'll be here fighting to get our party back.

138 posted on 05/04/2012 7:33:46 AM PDT by b4its2late (Patience is not a virtue, it is a waste of time.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

>>Are you running for President in 2016?

I can’t, I resided in Japan from 2000-2005.

139 posted on 05/04/2012 7:33:53 AM PDT by struggle (
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“It’s far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day”

Great message today, but if only we’d could have put the above attitude into practice six months ago . . . :sigh:

At any rate, Jim, would it be possible to ask Freepers from every state to round up a compilation of down ticket conservatives as a voting guide. That would be awesome and helpful.

140 posted on 05/04/2012 7:34:00 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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