Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
“Reid has stopped the house cold. We need a conservative (notice I didnt say republican) congress or we are, truly, doomed.”
Reid + Obama ... we need to get rid of both of them to fix the problem.
I don’t think Boehner, McConnell and Obama will work out so great for us.
“Santorum lost because Romney said he spent too much and was for earmarks.
Newt lost because Romney pointed out that he was against capitalism and was associated with Freddie Mac.
Perry lost because Romney pointed out that he was in favor of tuition for illegals.
Moral of the story is we cant beat RINOs by being more liberal.”
the moral of the story is that political campaigns are ugly, and we shouldnt fall for the ol’ song-and-dance attacks and buy into attacks on the more conservative candidates.
The other moral is that by rejecting flawed yet-more-conservative guys we end up with the LEAST conservative candidate.
We would repeat that mistake by rejecting Romney and letting Obama get relected
You are exactly right IMHO. I think we are going to pay a heavy price for removing God from our culture. Jefferson trembled at the though that God was just.
Strange how that works. When we have a really weak opponent there always seems to be a "Moderate Republican" that arises to save us. Almost like there is a plan.
They have already Fixed it, that is why we keep moving left.
—I dont think Boehner, McConnell and Obama will work out so great for us.—
Yep. That is basically what I am saying.
The one feature that I believe separates the conservative from the libertarian or any other similar and perhaps allied ideology is the implied belief in Original Sin. Being a Baptist Anglican, we don't use that term--we just behave as if it exists.
Man is born sinful and that's just what it is. Libertarians believe in perfectibility, as do liberals. That leads them to rage and despair and defeat.
When I compare Romney to Palin or West, (Palin/West was my dream team) I feel crushed with disappointment. However, when I compare him to Obama common sense checks in. He's deeply flawed, but not filled with malevolence--hate for America and Americans. That's the clincher. All these progressives hate America.
Ron Paul is the most pro life candidate and a tea party candidate and still in the race and the only way to prevent Obama or Romney from further destroying America. If you don’t want a socialist big govt big spender pro abortion in the WH support Ron Paul. How is it you miss that Jim?
Thank you , seeing your post gives me hope that there are conservatives here that can see thru the lies spread about Paul and there is still a chance to win this as opposed to handing the presidency to a socialist again.
Unfortunately, the “declared truce” didn’t halt all of the hostilities...
Go back and re-read my post. Never said declared, said proposed. It’s up to the adults who post here to comply.
“Eating our own because we dont have the POTUS nominee we want is simply self-defeating.”
There is a difference between not getting the POTUS nominee we want and getting one who is on the other side. Romney is a progressive.
I’ll vote for him and then go home and take a shower.
Cherry-picking one sentence and ignoring the context in which it appeared is a defective way to argue.
In my #61, I dismissed Romney as irrelevant to the substance of the election. It is ‘obvious’, in context, that ‘eating our own’ had NOTHING whatever to do with the ol’ Etch-a-sketcher. It DID have EVERYTHING to do with the constant internecine struggles JimR was addressing.
He was advocating banishing the ol’ Circular Firing Squad formation. He was calling on the community to focus constructively on the ‘down-ballot’ because sitting out the whole election because the POTUS nominee was terminally defective is self-defeating.
I don’t care if Mittens is a Progressive, a Jehovah’s Witness or a nudist. He is ‘irrelevant’. The down-ballot, on the other hand, is ABSOLUTELY relevant.
Since I am constructing my vote to ‘oppose’ Iman Hussein and SUPPORT Conservatism and Constitutionalist Candidates, to the exclusion of all others, I don’t have to worry about running home to shower after voting.
One Man’s Opinion
No way I can support Etch a Sketch and I’ll be happy to campaign against him. You can be a conservative or you can support Etch a Sketch. Not both.
Ther eis NO evidence to suggest that he'll bend to our pressure.
There is NO evidence to suggest that he'll bend to our pressure.
With you (almost)entirely. I think it is a terrific idea to run with everyone on board ( like your slate except for Tim Pawlenty, too much of a wienie for me)and the IN YOUR FACE thing is what we need.
Megadittos to everything you said.
“How about this for starters: http://constitution.hillsdale.edu/
Hillsdale College constitution 101”
If I had a kid today who was getting ready for college, he or she would HAVE to go to Hillsdale. Its a GREAT institution and it STAYED that way by REFUSING Federal moneys and the strings the Washington elites attach to TAXPAYER money.
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