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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!

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To: chiller

>>The real tugging will occur within the R’s. If we can’t tug him to the right as far as we like, we’ll grow the T-Party even more until we can’t be denied. Repeat; Romney will bend to pressure.

I agree. I think we’re going to see some fight in Romney that will make Obama cower. Mitt may have been a leftist bast*rd during his time in Massachusetts, but if he was a Newt Gingrich the Republicans would never get elected. I think the central question remaining unanswered is this - “Is Romney going to step up to the realization that the country is over if major government cutting and tax decreases do not occur and Obamacare is repealed?”

The pressure can be kept on Romney now that we have an alternative media, he won’t ignore his base. I do think it sucks that the GOP chose him as their Golden Boy though. So many other better choices.

201 posted on 05/04/2012 8:01:46 AM PDT by struggle (
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Fractured conservative voteing is what gave us McCain, it gave us Romney. I don’t see any way to a different outcome 4 years from now.

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Sadly, I don’t either. The RINOs count on us caving.

202 posted on 05/04/2012 8:01:53 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Pulling the Republic out of Obama's Marxist fire and back in to a Statist-Lite GOP-e frying pan with Romney is a chance to fight another day.

But if the Tree of Liberty must now be refreshed with it's natural manure, so be it.

203 posted on 05/04/2012 8:02:02 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: KeyLargo
If Obama wins reelection and those three judges retire by 2016, he’d have the opportunity to appoint a five-justice majority during his two terms (including Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan).

AND we lose the 2nd Amendment and many more. The Republic will be forever TRANSFORMED when this occurs. The current clown in the WH MUST be removed.
204 posted on 05/04/2012 8:02:06 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: chiller
Yes, agreed. Romney has too much chameleon in him, but that may work to our advantage. There's more of us (R's) than them (D's). Jim R would disagree, but Romney's performance in Massachusetts may be misleading, given the liberal environment in which he was forced to swim.

Romney is a coward. He will follow the path of least resistance. As Jim said, WE ARE THE RESISTANCE.
205 posted on 05/04/2012 8:02:17 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s the right move Jim. Thanks.

206 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:02 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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Senator Jim Demint PAC

207 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:17 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day.

Well said Jim. Living to fight another day, each of us are in this Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, all the Men and Women who make us Proud, each citizen is there whether that citizen wants to be there or not. God understands and the people at your site understand, why each of us have to fight for another day when our victory will be complete. Thanks Jim. From your keyboard to God's ears. Prayers Up!

208 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: APatientMan
You left off "Rooster-Sucking".

209 posted on 05/04/2012 8:03:53 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Agreed, and thank you for posting this.

The rule is simple; vote for the more conservative candidate. Always.

Romney won the primary fair and square, so he will be the nominee. Why he won doesn't matter. How he won doesn't matter. He won. That's the way the system works.

210 posted on 05/04/2012 8:05:12 AM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Jimmy Carter's incompetence + Richard Nixon's paranoia = Barack Obama)
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL ... and did not even have to click the link. LOL

211 posted on 05/04/2012 8:05:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks, JR.

Good to hear it.

Doesn’t change how what we think of Romney. He will need to be dragged to the right...hell, to the center, even.

We’ve a long road ahead of us...

“Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men. Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers. Pray for powers equal to your tasks.” Phillips Brooks (December 13, 1835 – January 23, 1893)

212 posted on 05/04/2012 8:05:47 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

The question you need to answer is, “Will Obama lose?”...

Not, “Will Romney win???”

It is a question that requires a simple yes, or no answer...There is no other way to do it...

This would have been true regardless of whom the Republican elites would have allowed us to have as a nominee.../sarc

I’m dissapointed in the whole election cycle process, some of us have been in the party trenches doing what we could to influence and steer the party in a direction away from the country-clubbing, elitist, moderate, appeasing, compramising bunch of feckless representatives and candidates for years...To no real difference...

We were paid lip service by many in that group, and are tired of having to justify holding our noses when we get to the polls over the last 10-15 years...

I intend to continue to do what I can from the inside...I do not like my chances...I hope there are more like me in this position...

What we need to realize now is that if Romney and the GOP elites fail to win the WH this November, do they realize, or even see, the incredible damage to the party as a whole this will do??? Its not just going to be another credibility hit either...This may well dry up the majority of donations and support to Republican candidates and incumbents because of the short sightedness of the Republican party leadership as well...

I would recommend as I have done before to forget about the top job this cycle and focus on getting the down ballot candidates we can hope that can wrestle control back to a more conservative bent and totally neuter the Obama administration after this next election...We need to focus on that anyway...

Keeping the House, and getting back the Senate may give us enough time to stave off the continued slide to oblivion that is the course we are on now...

Otherwise...It’s been nice knowing y’all...

I hope I am wrong...I really do...As it stands now, I will not be surprised either way...

What I hope for is to not see a lot of whining and crying after election day...We had a chance, and we could have effected a political shift, hopefully in time to get some things corrected...

We shall see...

213 posted on 05/04/2012 8:06:12 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Occupy the Gun Range!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson


214 posted on 05/04/2012 8:06:15 AM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: GonzoGOP

The resulting flames got me to write my own opus, but I decided to wait until morning to post. Never did, but I’m keeping it on file, just in case.


Go ahead an post us a rough draft. We’ll help you with spelling, grammar and will coach you on being more inflammatory.



215 posted on 05/04/2012 8:07:25 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: jpsb
Sounds like it, I am still waiting to hear, since Ron Paul is still in the race and Paul is not Romney, if I can post support for Paul without getting banned. My gut feeling is I'd better not try it. lol.

This is a good question: who can be discussed, who is not allowed? I will respect the decision, but would like to just would like to know so I don't offend.
216 posted on 05/04/2012 8:08:35 AM PDT by Gennie
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To: unique1

There is a big Tea Party Express rally for Paul in Austin this week end. If I thought I could get away with it I post an article about it. But I have seen to many banned for doing stuff like that so I am not going to risk it. It is ok to be a Paul supporter here as long as you don’t make to much noise. I think I got a slight pass since Paul is my congressman, I know he is a little nuts and has some crazy ideas but hey no one is perfect and he is very good on spending.

217 posted on 05/04/2012 8:08:54 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Jim Robinson
Haha, funny how many people assume truce=surrender.
218 posted on 05/04/2012 8:09:05 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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To: Jim Robinson

I am disappointed that Romney will be the Republican candidate, but I will vote for him as the lesser of two evils. The worst case scenario would be for BO to be re-elected because of conservatives refusing to vote for Romney.

219 posted on 05/04/2012 8:09:59 AM PDT by Mare (Hey Barack America is Baroke!)
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To: bcsco
Unless something occurs at the convention (I’m not holding my breath), we’ll have Romney for our candidate. I will vote for him. No, I take that back. I’ll not vote for Obama so I have no choice in the matter. 2012 looks to be a 2008 redux as far as my nose is concerned when I enter the polls. So be it.

I have to remind myself that it wasn't until August of 2008 that McCain announced his choice of Sarah Palin for VP. Up until that time I was contemplating not voting (for POTUS) for the first time since I had reached voting age. Like many others I talked myself into the proposition that I wasn't so much voting for McLame as I was for Palin.

I'm just not sure that there will be anyone that mittens can select that will "sweeten" the vomit-flavor that will come from pulling the lever for him.

God help us all.

220 posted on 05/04/2012 8:10:14 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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